• Can't find clearcut instructions that work for resetting Mikrotik RB411

    From RJH@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 07:53:38 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    I know it was working when I put it in the storage box years ago.
    But I don't remember what IP address it was set to at that time.

    The 18VDC 1Amp POE is known to be good & the RB411 lights & beeps
    when it's powered (although I'm not sure what's supposed to light up).

    I went to the firmware download page (which shows it's discontinued)
    and read every document there and tried all their reset instructions
    but what they fail to do in all of them is provide explicit instructions. https://mikrotik.com/product/RB411

    None of those instructions work, but as I recall, they're all too generic anyway in that it matters greatly exactly the procedure that you use
    and even which of the two different onboard reset mechanisms that you use. https://i.postimg.cc/FKsR3Mk1/mikrotik-rb411-reset.jpg

    Even so, I have downloaded the latest RouterOS just in case I need to flash. https://download.mikrotik.com/routeros/7.8/routeros-mipsbe-7.8.npk
    And I downloaded the latest RouterBoot firmware just in case I need it. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/rb_bootloaders/ar7100_3.41.fwf

    I read the User Guide but the instructions there are too generic too. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/rb411ugA_130511.pdf

    As with the same problem with the too generic RouterOS Software Manual. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:TOC

    Factory defaults are supposed to be 192.168.88.1 admin with no password.
    I remember the reset procedure to be non intuitive (so no generic
    instructions will work) but I don't remember the precise reset process.

    But I can't get a successful ping (even with well-tested cat5 cables).
    ping 192.168.88.1 -t

    Nor will a web browser access the webfig configuration at that address. http://192.168.1.88/webfig/

    None of the generic reset instructions appear to be working for me. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Reset

    Unfortunately, even the specific instructions are completely generic. https://www.router-reset.com/info/MikroTik/RouterBOARD-411-RB411 https://www.mikrotik.com.my/reset-to-factory-default-settings/

    The reset, as I recall, is actually complicated in that doing it right
    has a lot to do with exactly which LEDs flash which color (blue or green)
    and how many times specific LEDs flash & exactly when you let up.

    I set the Windows IP address as admin so that's not the problem (AFAICT).
    netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
    netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"

    There are two different resets on the Mikrotik RB411 routerboard.
    One is a "S301" button & the other is a short slot, both of which I tried. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/rb_images/669_hi_res.png

    All I can find is I hold the S301 spring-loaded button until some unknown
    LED light starts flashing (blue or green, there are many), and then I release the S301 spring-loaded button which is supposed to reset the RouterOS configuration to the factory default setup (but how long does it take?).

    I've done it so many times so many ways that I'm not even sure which of
    the many reset configurations the RB411 routerboard is currently set to. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Etherboot

    I have the MikroTik WinBox Loader v2.2.18 but it won't connect to 192.168.88.1 https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Winbox
    https://mikrotik.com/download https://download.mikrotik.com/winbox/3.37/winbox.exe https://download.mikrotik.com/winbox/3.37/winbox64.exe

    I haven't used TheDude or NetInstall yet as I just want to reset to defaults. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:The_Dude https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Netinstall https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Flashfig

    In desperation I even resorted to watching YouTube videos on how to reset it. How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411
    https://youtu.be/OD708qX23eM
    a. No power
    b. Hold Phillips screwdriver in the corner hard reset
    c. Connect power
    d. Lift after 28 seconds it seems ???

    Reset manual Mikrotik RB 411
    https://youtu.be/8xhdrpEtlc4
    a. no power
    b. hold button on side
    c. connect RJ45
    d. flashing by RJ45

    How do you reset the RouterOS IP address settings & login back to default? https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Reset

    Resetting the RouterOS configuration
    Hold this button until LED light starts flashing.
    Release the button to reset RouterOS configuration to default.

    Which LED light?
    There are blue & green LEDs to the left of the RJ45.
    There are five green LEDs to the right of the RS232.

    How do you reset the RouterOS back to the factory configuration?

    Nothing has worked yet but what I haven't found is useful usable explicit instructions on how to reset the MikroTik RouterBoard RB411 to its default.

    Do you have any way of finding those specific explicit reset instructions?
    --
    Cheers, Rob

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  • From Charles Lucas@21:1/5 to RJH on Tue Mar 28 08:27:58 2023
    On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:54:17 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
    I know it was working when I put it in the storage box years ago.
    But I don't remember what IP address it was set to at that time.

    The 18VDC 1Amp POE is known to be good & the RB411 lights & beeps
    when it's powered (although I'm not sure what's supposed to light up).

    I went to the firmware download page (which shows it's discontinued)
    and read every document there and tried all their reset instructions
    but what they fail to do in all of them is provide explicit instructions. https://mikrotik.com/product/RB411

    None of those instructions work, but as I recall, they're all too generic anyway in that it matters greatly exactly the procedure that you use
    and even which of the two different onboard reset mechanisms that you use. https://i.postimg.cc/FKsR3Mk1/mikrotik-rb411-reset.jpg

    Even so, I have downloaded the latest RouterOS just in case I need to flash. https://download.mikrotik.com/routeros/7.8/routeros-mipsbe-7.8.npk
    And I downloaded the latest RouterBoot firmware just in case I need it. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/rb_bootloaders/ar7100_3.41.fwf

    I read the User Guide but the instructions there are too generic too. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/rb411ugA_130511.pdf

    As with the same problem with the too generic RouterOS Software Manual. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:TOC

    Factory defaults are supposed to be 192.168.88.1 admin with no password.
    I remember the reset procedure to be non intuitive (so no generic instructions will work) but I don't remember the precise reset process.

    But I can't get a successful ping (even with well-tested cat5 cables).
    ping 192.168.88.1 -t

    Nor will a web browser access the webfig configuration at that address. http://192.168.1.88/webfig/

    None of the generic reset instructions appear to be working for me. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Reset

    Unfortunately, even the specific instructions are completely generic. https://www.router-reset.com/info/MikroTik/RouterBOARD-411-RB411 https://www.mikrotik.com.my/reset-to-factory-default-settings/

    The reset, as I recall, is actually complicated in that doing it right
    has a lot to do with exactly which LEDs flash which color (blue or green) and how many times specific LEDs flash & exactly when you let up.

    I set the Windows IP address as admin so that's not the problem (AFAICT). netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
    netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"

    There are two different resets on the Mikrotik RB411 routerboard.
    One is a "S301" button & the other is a short slot, both of which I tried. https://i.mt.lv/cdn/rb_images/669_hi_res.png

    All I can find is I hold the S301 spring-loaded button until some unknown LED light starts flashing (blue or green, there are many), and then I release
    the S301 spring-loaded button which is supposed to reset the RouterOS configuration to the factory default setup (but how long does it take?).

    I've done it so many times so many ways that I'm not even sure which of
    the many reset configurations the RB411 routerboard is currently set to. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Etherboot

    I have the MikroTik WinBox Loader v2.2.18 but it won't connect to 192.168.88.1
    https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Winbox
    https://mikrotik.com/download https://download.mikrotik.com/winbox/3.37/winbox.exe https://download.mikrotik.com/winbox/3.37/winbox64.exe

    I haven't used TheDude or NetInstall yet as I just want to reset to defaults.
    https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:The_Dude https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Netinstall https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Flashfig

    In desperation I even resorted to watching YouTube videos on how to reset it.
    How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411
    https://youtu.be/OD708qX23eM
    a. No power
    b. Hold Phillips screwdriver in the corner hard reset
    c. Connect power
    d. Lift after 28 seconds it seems ???

    Reset manual Mikrotik RB 411
    https://youtu.be/8xhdrpEtlc4
    a. no power
    b. hold button on side
    c. connect RJ45
    d. flashing by RJ45

    How do you reset the RouterOS IP address settings & login back to default? https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Reset

    Resetting the RouterOS configuration
    Hold this button until LED light starts flashing.
    Release the button to reset RouterOS configuration to default.

    Which LED light?
    There are blue & green LEDs to the left of the RJ45.
    There are five green LEDs to the right of the RS232.

    How do you reset the RouterOS back to the factory configuration?

    Nothing has worked yet but what I haven't found is useful usable explicit instructions on how to reset the MikroTik RouterBoard RB411 to its default.

    Do you have any way of finding those specific explicit reset instructions? --
    Cheers, Rob

    Hi, Just a few quick suggestions. These are standard protocols for testing
    any router (whether it is new or used, or discontinued or not). Please check the following link below for basic solutions:

    https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/commands-manage-wireless-networks-windows/

    I have found the ipconfig command and the ping command quite useful. So will the router table command.

    What this does is show the routing and porting of the system (especially if you want to use port forwarding). Remember, that in addition to this, there will be the needed security protocols for the 2.4 GHz and the 5 GHz bands (and perhaps for the various sub-bands as well). Bear in mind, this is high end FM. Check and
    verify connectivity, range, and throughput.

    Hope this helps.

    Sincere regards,


    Charles Lucas

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to RJH on Tue Mar 28 09:09:24 2023
    On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 2:54:17 AM UTC-4, RJH wrote:
    I know it was working when I put it in the storage box years ago.

    How many years ago?
    Was it in its proper anti-static, anti-moisture *sealed* sleeve?

    The thing about electronics of this nature is that they can get fried 'just sitting there' by moisture, stray electronic fields, fingerprints eating through traces and many other sorts of things.

    I suggest you give it a 24-hour rest and try again. Frustration may lead to making the same mistake over and over.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Dean Hoffman on Tue Mar 28 18:34:59 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

    Try the sci.electronics.design group.

    I did that. :-->

    I have tried every reset procedure I can find on the net, for example
    30:30:30 but what I really need is a specific reset procedure that explains
    how long each step takes as there are MANY reset procedures for the RB411.

    There's the shorting point where you stick a screwdriver for an unspecified number of seconds while powering up and then you wait for an unspecified
    set of unspecified color LEDs to light up, and there is the spring-loaded
    reset button which you press for an equally unspecified period of time
    while already booted and then you wait for an unspecified set of
    unspecified color LEDs to do whatever it is that they do.

    There's also that beep I keep hearing which I don't know what it means.

    I've been trying everything, for example I tried to connect to the MAC
    address (which I had written down so I know what it is) of the LAN and WAN
    on the routerboard RB411 last night using Winbox.exe version 3.37.

    winbox.exe 192.168.88.1 admin ""
    winbox.exe 84:1B:5E:AF:BF:CF admin ""

    I also tried the webfig interface of the RouterBoard RB411 on port 80. http://192.168.88.1/webfig/

    I wasn't sure if it matter whether I used the 32-bit or 64-bit winbox
    version 3.37 so I tried both of them but got the same negative results.

    At this point I don't care which RouterOS I boot it to as the MikroTik
    RB411 (like all MikroTik router boards) has a duplicate OS inside it.
    (I think that's what the Phillips head shorting point is all about.)

    And I don't care what settings it resets to just as long as I can log into
    it from Windows on the same subnet (presumably the 192.168.88.xxx subnet). netsh interface ipv4 show config
    netsh interface ipv4 show config "MyEthernet"
    netsh interface ipv4 set address name="MyEthernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
    ping 192.168.88.1 -t

    None of this works so I think the router is in some stuck state,
    although it boots up (seemingly) with lights lighting up and
    blinking at times (blue and green LEDs) and it beeps too.

    I just need a definitive specific explicit reference for the MikroTik routerboard RB411 with RouterOS on it for how to reset it to a state that I
    can then connect to the RouterOS on it to set it up as a CPE Access Point.

    I tried the MikroTik forum but it never sent the confirmation registration
    mail so I don't think it's still supported as it seems to be dead a while. https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=438256 https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=454673 https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Reset+Button https://mikrotik.com/product/RB411 https://www.mikrotik-store.eu/en/MikroTik-RouterBOARD-RB411 https://forum.routerboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=156670

    I'll put openwrt on it if I have to but I still need to connect first. https://openwrt.org/toh/mikrotik/rb411

    Most of the descriptions aren't specific enough to actually work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD708qX23eM
    How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411

    I will try anything because all I want to do is connect to it.
    --
    Cheers, Rob

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to RJH on Tue Mar 28 18:09:59 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> writes:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:


    How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411

    I will try anything because all I want to do is connect to it.

    Run a port scanner (e.g. nmap) on the entire 192.168.0.0/16 subnet.
    Then try the 10.0.0.0/24 subnet if you don't get a hit on 192.168.0.0/16

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to RJH on Wed Mar 29 07:00:12 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.internet.wireless

    On 28 Mar 2023 at 18:34:59 BST, RJH wrote:

    On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

    Try the sci.electronics.design group.

    I did that. :-->

    How come you appear to be using my account to post?!

    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Wed Mar 29 08:27:21 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    On 28 Mar 2023 at 7:09:59 PM, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

    Run a port scanner (e.g. nmap) on the entire 192.168.0.0/16 subnet.
    Then try the 10.0.0.0/24 subnet if you don't get a hit on 192.168.0.0/16

    I don't know if the RB411 is on the 192.168.88.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx subnet.
    Do I need to put the Windows PC on the same subnet as the RB411 might be?

    Anyway, I googled for nmap and somehow I ended up with Zenmap on my desktop. https://nmap.org/book/zenmap.html

    The default zenmap scan is apparently this command.
    Target: 192.168.1.1/24
    Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.1.1/24

    Target: 192.168.88.1/24
    Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.88.1/24

    The first nmap command it ran from the Zenmap GUI without the RB411 was
    Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.0 [host down]
    Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.2 [host down]
    Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.3 [host down]
    ...
    Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.100
    Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.101
    Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.102

    There were pages of results, so I'm weeding through them first while
    I'm on my home LAN before I connect the PC directly to the RB411 router.

    It's a pain not knowing what subnet to put the PC on so I pulled
    the Ethernet out of the home router and plugged it into the RB411
    instead. Then I changed the PC IP address to these two one by one.
    Win+r cmd {control+shift+enter}
    netsh interface ipv4 show config
    netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"
    netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
    ping 192.168.1.1 -t (which fails)
    Then I ran the zenmap GUI with a Target: 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.255
    Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.1.1/24
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.0
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.1
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.2
    ...

    Then I tried the 88 subnet.
    Win+r cmd {control+shift+enter}
    netsh interface ipv4 show config
    netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"
    netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
    ping 192.168.88.1 -t (which fails)
    Then I ran the zenmap GUI with a Target: 192.168.88.1 192.168.88.255
    Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.88.1/24
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.0
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.1
    get_srcaddr: can't connect socket: A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host.
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.3
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.4
    setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.5
    ...

    I'm not sure what I'm doing, but it seems I get different results
    if I put the PC on 192.168.1.xxx versus 192.168.88.xxx and then
    I run that zenmap port scan - but I don't yet know what to make
    of the results since nothing came back as a really good hit.

    My googling found also "ipscan" and "portscanner" which I may try. https://angryip.org/download/#windows https://www.eusing.com/ipscan/free_ip_scanner.htm https://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/download/

    The problem is that the search is filled with shills so I don't know
    which is the right freeware respected ipscanner or port scanner download.

    Given the syntax is not in the least intuitive (it takes experimentation),
    does anyone have a recommendation as to which scanner to concentrate on?
    --
    Cheers, Rob

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to RJH on Wed Mar 29 09:55:51 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    RJH wrote:

    It's a pain not knowing what subnet to put the PC on

    Use wireshark and listen for DHCP or gratuitous ARP from the device,
    then you'll know its IP and can put your PC on the same subnet to
    [ze]nmap scan it ...

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 04:13:02 2023
    How come you appear to be using my account to post?!

    It does appear that Jimmy Neutron is back, and now hijacking other handles.

    Please do not feed the troll.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From jim Whitby@21:1/5 to Peter W. on Wed Mar 29 15:12:19 2023
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:13:02 -0700, Peter W. wrote:

    How come you appear to be using my account to post?!

    It does appear that Jimmy Neutron is back, and now hijacking other
    handles.

    Please do not feed the troll.

    Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

    If he's serious, then the serial port is the best way.
    As I haven't seen any response to my post ( a.inter..wirel.. ).
    I'm inclined to agree about the troll

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 07:41:23 2023
    I'm inclined to agree about the troll.

    Jimmy Neutron is never serious - other than to attempt to generate a 100-post wild goose chase on its terms.

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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri Apr 14 07:39:37 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> writes:
    On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:


    How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411

    I will try anything because all I want to do is connect to it.

    Run a port scanner (e.g. nmap) on the entire 192.168.0.0/16 subnet.
    Then try the 10.0.0.0/24 subnet if you don't get a hit on 192.168.0.0/16

    Default for RouterOS is 192.168.88.0/24 IIRC.

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  • From Bud Frede@21:1/5 to RJH on Fri Apr 14 07:38:33 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> writes:

    I know it was working when I put it in the storage box years ago.
    But I don't remember what IP address it was set to at that time.

    The 18VDC 1Amp POE is known to be good & the RB411 lights & beeps
    when it's powered (although I'm not sure what's supposed to light up).

    I went to the firmware download page (which shows it's discontinued)
    and read every document there and tried all their reset instructions
    but what they fail to do in all of them is provide explicit instructions. https://mikrotik.com/product/RB411

    None of those instructions work, but as I recall, they're all too generic anyway in that it matters greatly exactly the procedure that you use
    and even which of the two different onboard reset mechanisms that you use. https://i.postimg.cc/FKsR3Mk1/mikrotik-rb411-reset.jpg

    Have you tried posting in the Mikrotik forums or the subreddit? You
    might be able to get advice in one or the other.

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  • From chuck@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 15 16:53:13 2023
    XPost: alt.internet.wireless, alt.home.repair

    change mask from 255.255.255.0 to 255.255.0.0

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