I've got a pretty reliable home-brew PC built on
PCC A13G+ v3.0 motherboard that has only recently
started to reboot itself after 15-30 minutes of
operation. It normally only sees an internet
connection for updates to AV or OS.
It's dual boot W2k / linux LXLE, and will reboot
just from sitting at log-in screen in both OS.
With W2k running, disablimg reboot on failure leaves
the system with a BSOD, instead of rebooting.
It will run preboot memtest for 6hrs+ without
fault, from either GRUB or a DOS floppy disk.
PSU, HDD replacement has no benefit, barebones.
W2k Device Mgr shows a USB Host Controller that
is recognized but will not accept the normal
usb drivers, while other enhanced controllers are
listed normally. Disabling it doesn't prevent the reboot. Removing/reinstalling etc does not change its
eventual status.
USB ports function. The faulty host seems to be
treated as a usb device that can't be stopped in
normal usb media removal dialog.
I'm trying to associated the USB Host issue to
physical parts on the MBrd. I'm guessing it's not
just a bus switch or port buffer.
Any ideas what to do next? Replacing the motherboard
doesn't seem to be an option, as there aren't any of
these out there anymore, second-hand or otherwise.
RL
I've got a pretty reliable home-brew PC built on
PCC A13G+ v3.0 motherboard that has only recently
started to reboot itself after 15-30 minutes of
operation. It normally only sees an internet
connection for updates to AV or OS.
...
Any ideas what to do next? Replacing the motherboard
doesn't seem to be an option, as there aren't any of
these out there anymore, second-hand or otherwise.
RL
Any ideas what to do next? Replacing the motherboard
doesn't seem to be an option, as there aren't any of
these out there anymore, second-hand or otherwise.
RL
Since you've swapped out the power supply and are still having problems,
have you checked the motherboard for bulging caps? How old is the board?
By the way, I found this review of the motherboard at:
https://www.newegg.com/pc-chips-a13g/p/N82E16813185102
"CHEAP NOT SO GOOD
Pros: This board was an easy setup. Ok for very lightly used computing.
Cons: Died in 11 months. Mounts for CPU make it awkward in most
motherboard trays."
On 2021/09/03 8:12 a.m., legg wrote:
I've got a pretty reliable home-brew PC built on
PCC A13G+ v3.0 motherboard that has only recently
started to reboot itself after 15-30 minutes of
operation. It normally only sees an internet
connection for updates to AV or OS.
...
Any ideas what to do next? Replacing the motherboard
doesn't seem to be an option, as there aren't any of
these out there anymore, second-hand or otherwise.
RL
Have you looked at the electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard? Any
of them splitting or bulging? These require a good vacuum desoldering
system as the boards are multilayer and your regular temp controlled
tool doesn't work so well on those types of boards unless you dial it
way up, then you run the risk of damaging the board.
John :-#(#
As for a new machine with W10 or later - anything that won't work
without an internet connection, cloud servers or a recurring
subscription, is just not going to happen here.
legg wrote:
As for a new machine with W10 or later - anything that won't work
without an internet connection, cloud servers or a recurring
subscription, is just not going to happen here.
Windows 10 does not require an Internet connection. Even if that changes, you >can always get an older version.
By the way, I found this review of the motherboard at:This picture reminds me of a problem I had.
https://www.newegg.com/pc-chips-a13g/p/N82E16813185102
Le 03/09/2021 à 19:58, Ralph Mowery a écrit :
By the way, I found this review of the motherboard at:This picture reminds me of a problem I had.
https://www.newegg.com/pc-chips-a13g/p/N82E16813185102
HWinfo was telling me that a mysterious chip was reaching
a 73C temperature.
By touch nothing on the board was close to this.
So I removed the golden radiator to find that the pad
between it and the chip was completely dry.
For good measure I replaced it with a bigger black radiator
with real thermal paste and a fan.
It did wonders no more unexplained reboots and I was even able
to overclock from 2.5 to 3.5 GHz this had never been possible
since the board was new.
My thanks goes to the HWinfo software that in fact gives
temperatures of a lot of components in a PC.
It was a lot of work but now when facing mysterious
reboots I put a very big fan facing the main board a leave
it cook.
John Doe wrote:
legg wrote:
As for a new machine with W10 or later - anything that won't work
without an internet connection, cloud servers or a recurring
subscription, is just not going to happen here.
Windows 10 does not require an Internet connection. Even if that
changes, you can always get an older version.
You sound really sure about all that . . . .
I'm not even sure you can install W10 or later without one.
As for a new machine with W10 or later - anything that won't work
without an internet connection, cloud servers or a recurring
subscription, is just not going to happen here.
install W10 LTSB, runs great with these old dual/quad core processors.As for a new machine with W10 or later - anything that won't work
without an internet connection, cloud servers or a recurring
subscription, is just not going to happen here.
W10 can work without an Internet connection. Actually to install the lastest versions of W10 Home if you want to create a local user you must install without an internet connection otherwise it enforces an online account. On that computer I would
As for the blue screen I would suspect the hard disk data or power cable. If memtest does not cause a reboot (double-check), try booting from a Linux live CD with the HDD unplugged, if it runs fine I would suspect the HDD cables, the HDD itself or theSATA controller. Maybe try another SATA port?
On 2021/09/03 8:12 a.m., legg wrote:
I've got a pretty reliable home-brew PC built on
PCC A13G+ v3.0 motherboard that has only recently
started to reboot itself after 15-30 minutes of
operation. It normally only sees an internet
connection for updates to AV or OS.
...
Any ideas what to do next? Replacing the motherboard
doesn't seem to be an option, as there aren't any of
these out there anymore, second-hand or otherwise.
RL
Have you looked at the electrolytic capacitors on the motherboard? Any
of them splitting or bulging? These require a good vacuum desoldering
system as the boards are multilayer and your regular temp controlled
tool doesn't work so well on those types of boards unless you dial it
way up, then you run the risk of damaging the board.
John :-#(#
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