On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:47:10 -0000 (UTC),
peter@easthope.ca wrote:
In article <ua0pbhtdfggqa7g6omnr4g46rckdl5n91c@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
That depends on how they were programmed. For the BPR40
<https://www.motorolasolutions.com/en_us/products/two-way-radios/analog-business-radios/portable-radios/bpr40.html>
you'll need to find the CPS (customer programming software):
"How To Program Motorola Mag One BPR40 Two-Way Radio"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGKm1WFQPN8>
For the CLS1413, the programming is method is different:
<https://shop.motorolasolutions.com/cls1413-two-way-radio-for-business-4-channel-uhf/product/CU1413BKV4BA>
The CLS1413 is provided with a menu of 56 business and comercial radio
frequencies. You can't just pick a frequency that matches whatever is
in your PBR40's or some random frequency that seems un-used. The good
news is that you don't need any programming software:
<https://www.twowayradiosfor.com/cls-programming-s/2024.htm>
Thanks.
I suspect that you're not familiar with the FCC rules and
regulations governing the use of such radios.
Correct; probably Industry Canada regs here.
Sorry. I didn't see the Canada in your email address. I have no
knowledge of how Canada handles such situations or if US type
certified radios can be used in Canada. I did suggest that you
contact someone local (in Canada) to explain how things work. I can
try to answer your questions, but only from the US perspective.
You haven't disclosed what you plan to do with the radios or which
radio service you plan to use (MURS, FRS, GMRS, ham,
business/commerical, public safety, dot and star, etc). For some
applications, an FCC license or registration will be required.
First instinct was just sell on eBay but two other possibilities here.
(1) The Capital Regional District has organized an emergency plan. If
the radios can be set up for emergency communications, might deploy
for that.
We have a variety of such organizations in the US. The one's I'm
familiar with use ham radios, not commercial radios. A few
neighborhood organizations user FRS, GMRS, and MURS radios. At one
time, it was possible to buy a combined FRS/GMRS handheld. After
2017, the FCC loosened up on some of the specifications, increased the
power levels, allowed repeaters for GMRS, but banned the FRS/GMRS
combined radios. This covers a small part of the changes and includes
a few enforcement horror stories: <
https://backcountryaccess.com/en-us/blog/p/two-way-radios-learn-the-new-fcc-rules>
Notice the giant fine for programming an unlicensed radio. I have no
idea how this translates in Canada.
Also, radios are type certified by class of service. For example, if
you want to use a radio on business frequencies, you buy a radio that
has been certified for use on business frequencies. Same for ham,
FRS, GMRS, marine VHF, public safety, and a long list of specialized
services. The FCC allows radios to operate in only one class of
service. Therefore you won't find a combination of marine and
business class radios. You can look this up using the FCC ID number
that appears on every legal radio at:
<
https://fccid.io>
From my limited experience with emergency communications, the
organization provides a short list of acceptable equipment and radios. Sometimes, the radios are purchased by members, by the organization,
loaned to members, or similarly distributed. Having them limited to a
few makers and models makes training, servicing, programming, and
purchasing much easier. Unless your radios have been approved for use
in Canada, you might as well sell them on eBay to US users: <
https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ceb-bhst.nsf/eng/h_tt00020.html> <
https://sms-sgs.ic.gc.ca/equipmentSearch/searchRadioEquipments?execution=e1s1&lang=en>
(2) Many boaters here. If radios can be used for marine
communications, that's also possible.
Nope. I used to design marine radios for Intech Inc. Marine radios
are designed to handle a specific list of frequencies and frequency
pairs specific to the country of origin. Here's the Canadian list: <
https://www.boat-ed.com/canada/studyGuide/VHF-Marine-Radio-Channels/101199_116029/>
The main problem here is that all the marine channels (except for HF
channels) are on VHF frequencies. From the length of the antennas, my guess(tm) is that all your radios are made for UHF frequencies. That's
not going to work.
My guess(tm) is that all your radios can only be licensed for business/commercial frequencies and use on UHF. I think your best bet
might be to sell them to a Canadian user of business/commercial UHF frequencies. However, do this only if you're sure that the radios are
approved for use in Canada. Otherwise, sell them in the US.
I suggest you discuss these issues with someone local who is familiar
with the issues involved and who can help you with the programming.
Will do. Thx, ... P.
Probably for the best unless someone from Canada appears in the
newsgroup. Good luck.
--
Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com
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http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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