The ceiling fan in the bathroom had three sockets, one of which stopped working, though sometimes you could wiggle the bulb and get it back on; then a second stopped. It seemed reasonable to replace the old sockets and it turned out to be cheap andeasy to do. No, there isn't a brand name or model number on the fan anywhere.
But I saw a lot of youtube videos on ceiling fan current limiter failure and hoped there wasn't one in my fan. It appears there is. At least, there's a small component with wires, crammed in with about 20 other wires of various colors in the space ofhalf a coffee cup, hard to see what goes where, and the lights still don't work.
So here's the symptom. I have an LED, a CFL, and an incandescent in the three sockets. They come on bright, then the CFL stops working, the LED goes into a weird strobe mode, and the incandescent burns at half power.
I've found lots of articles that say just cut it out (not so easy with the access I have) but none that explain how it works. Or why different lamps have different responses.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim Reasy to do. No, there isn't a brand name or model number on the fan anywhere.
<timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
The ceiling fan in the bathroom had three sockets, one of which stopped working, though sometimes you could wiggle the bulb and get it back on; then a second stopped. It seemed reasonable to replace the old sockets and it turned out to be cheap and
half a coffee cup, hard to see what goes where, and the lights still don't work.But I saw a lot of youtube videos on ceiling fan current limiter failure and hoped there wasn't one in my fan. It appears there is. At least, there's a small component with wires, crammed in with about 20 other wires of various colors in the space of
So here's the symptom. I have an LED, a CFL, and an incandescent in the three sockets. They come on bright, then the CFL stops working, the LED goes into a weird strobe mode, and the incandescent burns at half power.
I've found lots of articles that say just cut it out (not so easy with the access I have) but none that explain how it works. Or why different lamps have different responses.Buy a new one before it burns down your house
KenW
On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 12:39:48 PM UTC-4, KenW wrote:easy to do. No, there isn't a brand name or model number on the fan anywhere. >> >
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim R
<timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
The ceiling fan in the bathroom had three sockets, one of which stopped working, though sometimes you could wiggle the bulb and get it back on; then a second stopped. It seemed reasonable to replace the old sockets and it turned out to be cheap and
half a coffee cup, hard to see what goes where, and the lights still don't work.But I saw a lot of youtube videos on ceiling fan current limiter failure and hoped there wasn't one in my fan. It appears there is. At least, there's a small component with wires, crammed in with about 20 other wires of various colors in the space of
Buy a new one before it burns down your house
So here's the symptom. I have an LED, a CFL, and an incandescent in the three sockets. They come on bright, then the CFL stops working, the LED goes into a weird strobe mode, and the incandescent burns at half power.
I've found lots of articles that say just cut it out (not so easy with the access I have) but none that explain how it works. Or why different lamps have different responses.
KenW
Then I'm out the $10 I spent on new sockets (by the way, they're rated 660 W 250 V).
I've played around putting combinations of bulb in different sockets. The LED goes out whether alone or with other bulbs; the CFL and the incandescent seem to keep working. I have not been able to repeat the strobe effect with the LED, it just quits.
On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 12:39:48 PM UTC-4, KenW wrote:easy to do. No, there isn't a brand name or model number on the fan anywhere.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim R
<timoth...@gmail.com> wrote:
The ceiling fan in the bathroom had three sockets, one of which stopped working, though sometimes you could wiggle the bulb and get it back on; then a second stopped. It seemed reasonable to replace the old sockets and it turned out to be cheap and
of half a coffee cup, hard to see what goes where, and the lights still don't work.But I saw a lot of youtube videos on ceiling fan current limiter failure and hoped there wasn't one in my fan. It appears there is. At least, there's a small component with wires, crammed in with about 20 other wires of various colors in the space
So here's the symptom. I have an LED, a CFL, and an incandescent in the three sockets. They come on bright, then the CFL stops working, the LED goes into a weird strobe mode, and the incandescent burns at half power.
I've found lots of articles that say just cut it out (not so easy with the access I have) but none that explain how it works. Or why different lamps have different responses.Buy a new one before it burns down your house
Then I'm out the $10 I spent on new sockets (by the way, they're rated 660 W 250 V).
b) Given that two of the three lamps are non-incandescents, and given that the fan was designed against incandescents, and that any light at all, the current-limiter is not the issue.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
a) You mis-wired it.
b) Given that two of the three lamps are non-incandescents, and given that the fan was designed against incandescents, and that any light at all, the current-limiter is not the issue.
c) Mixing LED and CFL lamps in the same device will lead to strange symptoms, especially with the cheap LEDs.
d) That the incandescent is half-power is the proof of a).
What you have done is put (at least) two of the sockets in series.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Sounds like you're not using the ceiling fan enough to reduce
humidity, the usual aim of bathroom ceiling fans, so contacts
may have gone High-Z with corrosion.
RL
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On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 7:45:47 AM UTC-4, Peter W. wrote:
b) Given that two of the three lamps are non-incandescents, and given
that the fan was designed against incandescents, and that any light at
all, the current-limiter is not the issue.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Whoops, I missed this part.
Yes, i agree, if there is a current-limiter and it is working properly, it >could not be the problem. The current draw is a fraction of what three >incandescents would produce.
However apparently current-limiters are notorious for going bad and
producing flickering or strobe like results.
The wattage limiter in ceiling fan light kits is required by the DOE to prevent the fixture from using bulbs adding up to more than 190W.
These devices are installed in fixtures with medium base sockets. This was
to satisfy the EPACT 2004 legislation, not for anyone's safety.
The are routinely bypassed or removed by tying the red and black together
and capping the white.
"Tim R" wrote in message >news:408f2083-08d9-4fdb-bd4c-62f4a1197d8an@googlegroups.com...
On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-4, ScottWW wrote:
The wattage limiter in ceiling fan light kits is required by the DOE to
prevent the fixture from using bulbs adding up to more than 190W.
These devices are installed in fixtures with medium base sockets. This
was
to satisfy the EPACT 2004 legislation, not for anyone's safety.
The are routinely bypassed or removed by tying the red and black together
and capping the white.
Any idea how these things work, or are supposed to work? I've googled >extensively and not come up with anything but advice to take them out (some >of which is quite contradictory >with respect to wire colors).
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