• Dialectic and History

    From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 22:44:39 2016
    If God is incomprehensible then reason is idolatry, which is why Jews answer with questions and Greeks with dialectic. Better to worship your
    fellow man created in the divine image than ideas in human likeness. Meekness is devoid of the melgibsian passion of just war which divides and
    obfuscates. (Jer 17:9, Eph 2:3) Lossky's apophatic revival prompted Popper's falsifiability which in turn made genomics possible. The attempt to cataphatically conform the divinely created human into the imperfect
    heuristic map of ideology instead of accepting the incomprehensibility of the apophatic divine dialectic can only lead to atrocity. We allow canonical scripture to disagree (synoptics, James v Paul) because we believe in the dialectic pluralism of faith, language and culture via Babel.

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  • From Ilya Shambat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 24 17:51:18 2016
    Hegel articulated a manner of thought called the dialectic. In the dialectic, two opposing forces – a thesis and an antithesis – battle each other to create a synthesis: A mix of the two. This synthesis begets another opposing force – an antithesis
    – which then battles it to create another synthesis. According to Hegel, this process lead to the betterment of humanity.

    Hegel was clearly a brilliant men, and dialectic is a useful concept. However it does not always work out that way. There are some situations in which one force battles the other into extinction and either destroys or oppresses it. There are other
    situations – such as with Israel and Palestine – where we see an ongoing conflict with no resolution. And then of course there are situations in which the two forces destroy one another or when the two mix to create an outcome that combines the worst
    in each side.

    Marx took the Hegelian concept and used it to create Communism. But while Hegel thought that history through its dialectics was working toward the spiritual betterment of humanity, Marx thought that history through its dialectics was working toward the
    material betterment of humanity. He simply should have studied history better. When Roman Empire was destroyed by the Vandals, the result was not any kind of progress. The result was an effective extinction of civilization and the Dark Ages that lasted
    for a thousand years.

    The concept of the dialectic has application in all sorts of pursuits. When someone fanatically believes in something that is either untrue or incompletely true, it is worthwhile to introduce an opposing opinion. When one or another group in society does
    wrong, it is rightful that it be met with its opposite. We see this with both women and men; with both business and labor; with both public power and private power; with both environmentalism and economics; with both science and spirituality. All of the
    above are capable of both right and wrong; and when either side decides that it is universally right and that the other side is universally wrong, it is rightful that this error be corrected through introduction of the opposite force and its defense of
    its views and its interests. In such situations, the dialectic really does work for the better.

    Whereas there have been many situations in history where the clash of interests resulted either in destruction and enslavement or in a destructive synthesis. No dialectic was accomplished when the Spanish destroyed the Moorean, Aztec and Incan
    civilizations or when the English colonists decimated the Native Americans and the Australian aborigines. No dialectic was accomplished when Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot – exponents of Marxism - slaughtered the propertied class.

    In clashes of cultures, we see potential both for the constructive dialectic that works for good and the destructive synthesis that works for evil. When the English colonized India, they gave India knowledge of democracy and economics, whereas India gave
    England vast wisdom and beautiful literature. Whereas in the current clash between the Middle East and the West, the results on both sides so far have been deleterious, with the Muslim men teaching Western men to abuse women and the Western women
    teaching Muslim women to be mean.

    Dialectic is a useful concept, and it has always been a useful concept. It does not however describe all of reality. Sometimes clashes of opposite forces work for the better; sometimes for the worse; and sometimes for the extinction of either or both.
    There is positive synthesis; there is negative synthesis; there is also destruction or mutual destruction. History has had plenty of examples of all of the above, and it is important that it be viewed from that standpoint.

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