• First Early Cambrian Bryozoa Discovered

    From Inyo@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 17:43:42 2021
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in
    lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

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  • From erik simpson@21:1/5 to Inyo on Wed Oct 27 21:11:55 2021
    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes, including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021! Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to Inyo on Wed Oct 27 21:20:54 2021
    On 10/27/21 5:43 PM, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    This now places the first occurrences of all phyla (or their stem
    groups) with (eventually, though not necessarily at the time)
    mineralized skeletons at or before Cambrian stage 3. Makes the explosion
    a little more explody.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to eastside.erik@gmail.com on Thu Oct 28 05:03:32 2021
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of
    October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in
    lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of
    convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized
    Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P.
    gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021! >Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to jillery on Thu Oct 28 06:09:43 2021
    On 10/28/21 2:03 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of >>> October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in >>> lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of
    convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized
    Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. >>> gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    I don't think it's unclear at all. Bryozoans are protostomes (in the phylogenetic sense). But this discovery has no bearing on the question.
    What it clarifies is a taphonomic issue: bryozoans didn't originate in
    the Ordovician; that's just when some of them gained mineralized skeletons.

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  • From erik simpson@21:1/5 to 69jp...@gmail.com on Thu Oct 28 08:41:43 2021
    On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 2:03:35 AM UTC-7, 69jp...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of >> October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from >> the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in >> lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of >> convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized >> Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. >> gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!
    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    A similar situation of long standing is the "origins" or trilobites. Pre-calcification
    identification has been very elusive. Even so, the Ordovician Bryozoans display much
    more diversity than the earliest trilobites.

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to erik simpson on Thu Oct 28 09:33:49 2021
    On 10/28/21 8:41 AM, erik simpson wrote:
    On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 2:03:35 AM UTC-7, 69jp...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastsi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of >>>> October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from >>>> the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in >>>> lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of >>>> convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9 >>>> from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized >>>> Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. >>>> gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!
    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    A similar situation of long standing is the "origins" or trilobites. Pre-calcification
    identification has been very elusive. Even so, the Ordovician Bryozoans display much
    more diversity than the earliest trilobites.

    Naraoia is clearly closely related to trilobites, even if it isn't a
    crown trilobite. So that's something.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to jharshman@pacbell.net on Thu Oct 28 21:10:05 2021
    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:09:43 -0700, John Harshman
    <jharshman@pacbell.net> wrote:

    On 10/28/21 2:03 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of >>>> October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from >>>> the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in >>>> lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of >>>> convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9 >>>> from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized >>>> Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. >>>> gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    I don't think it's unclear at all. Bryozoans are protostomes (in the >phylogenetic sense).


    Your absolute certainty on the point raises the question why anybody
    ever thought differently.


    But this discovery has no bearing on the question.
    What it clarifies is a taphonomic issue: bryozoans didn't originate in
    the Ordovician; that's just when some of them gained mineralized skeletons.


    I caught that from the cited article.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to jillery on Thu Oct 28 20:14:35 2021
    On 10/28/21 6:10 PM, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:09:43 -0700, John Harshman
    <jharshman@pacbell.net> wrote:

    On 10/28/21 2:03 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first >>>>> geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of >>>>> October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), >>>>> respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original >>>>> unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from >>>>> the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The >>>>> presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in >>>>> lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of >>>>> convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest >>>>> members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9 >>>>> from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized >>>>> Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. >>>>> gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum >>>>> Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing >>>>> back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also >>>>> reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the early Cambrian. Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    I don't think it's unclear at all. Bryozoans are protostomes (in the
    phylogenetic sense).


    Your absolute certainty on the point raises the question why anybody
    ever thought differently.

    Simple enough: molecular data have greatly changed what we know and
    don't know. Based purely on morphology, bryozoans are hard to figure
    out. (So are brachiopods.) But the molecular data are clear.

    But this discovery has no bearing on the question.
    What it clarifies is a taphonomic issue: bryozoans didn't originate in
    the Ordovician; that's just when some of them gained mineralized skeletons.


    I caught that from the cited article.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Trolidan7@21:1/5 to John Harshman on Thu Nov 11 14:10:03 2021
    On 10/28/21 8:14 PM, John Harshman wrote:
    On 10/28/21 6:10 PM, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:09:43 -0700, John Harshman
    <jharshman@pacbell.net> wrote:

    On 10/28/21 2:03 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their
    first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download
    (as of
    October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying
    Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives
    from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced
    polymorphisms in
    lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a
    lack of
    convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the
    earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission
    gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and
    biomineralized
    Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses
    identifying P.
    gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of
    phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw
    Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and
    diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the
    early Cambrian. Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds. The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article. It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    I don't think it's unclear at all. Bryozoans are protostomes (in the
    phylogenetic sense).


    Your absolute certainty on the point raises the question why anybody
    ever thought differently.

    Simple enough: molecular data have greatly changed what we know and
    don't know. Based purely on morphology, bryozoans are hard to figure
    out. (So are brachiopods.) But the molecular data are clear.

    So based on the molecular data, is it clear that bilatera is
    monophyletic?

    Is there anything from it that could suggest that some animals
    with taxonomic bilateral symmetry at some stage of their development
    (including the echinoderms) could have separately arisen as offshoots
    of the cnidarians in more than one branch?

    Does the molecular evidence tend to indicate that animalia itself is polyphyletic? In other words sponges, cnidarians, ctenophores, and
    bilaterans all arose from eukaryotes separately and the nervous systems
    of three of the four are the result of convergent evolution?

    Is the least common ancestor of what is now called animalia not even multicellular, and it is not just sponges that are that way? Thus
    perhaps the only thing they have in common is cholesterol to make cell membranes tough but flexible, and no cell walls?

    You know, with every possibe branch, there is the possibility of
    different interpretations.

    What is the orthodox view on the formation of nervous systems?

    Did they arise only once in the animal kingdom or did they
    arise separately, once among the Cnidarians and a second
    time among the Ctenophorans, with both of then having
    similarities due to the functional nature of what nervous
    systems do?

    But this discovery has no bearing on the question.
    What it clarifies is a taphonomic issue: bryozoans didn't originate in
    the Ordovician; that's just when some of them gained mineralized
    skeletons.


    I caught that from the cited article.



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 11 14:36:51 2021
    On 11/11/21 2:10 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
    On 10/28/21 8:14 PM, John Harshman wrote:
    On 10/28/21 6:10 PM, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:09:43 -0700, John Harshman
    <jharshman@pacbell.net> wrote:

    On 10/28/21 2:03 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT), erik simpson
    <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their
    first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download
    (as of
    October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying
    Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose
    original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives
    from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced
    polymorphisms in
    lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a
    lack of
    convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the
    earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission
    gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and
    biomineralized
    Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses
    identifying P.
    gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of
    phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3,
    pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It
    also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    My first reaction is "how could I have missed this?", then I saw
    Oct. 27 2021!
    Interesting find, confirming the molecular clock (and abundant and
    diverse Ordovician
    forms) that the LCA must have been at least as far back as the
    early Cambrian.  Good
    catch!


    Both the article, and what the article discusses are indeed
    interesting finds.  The discovery of a fossil bed that pushes the
    origin of a phylum back over halfway across the Cambrian, is a
    remarkable event indeed.

    To refresh my understanding of Bryozoa, I looked up the Wikipedia
    article.  It mentions that it's unclear whether bryozoans should be
    considered protostomes or deuterostomes. Dare I ask, could this
    discovery settle that question? And if so, would that have any impact
    on the overall understanding of the evolution of life on Earth?

    I don't think it's unclear at all. Bryozoans are protostomes (in the
    phylogenetic sense).


    Your absolute certainty on the point raises the question why anybody
    ever thought differently.

    Simple enough: molecular data have greatly changed what we know and
    don't know. Based purely on morphology, bryozoans are hard to figure
    out. (So are brachiopods.) But the molecular data are clear.

    So based on the molecular data, is it clear that bilatera is
    monophyletic?

    It is.

    Is there anything from it that could suggest that some animals
    with taxonomic bilateral symmetry at some stage of their development (including the echinoderms) could have separately arisen as offshoots
    of the cnidarians in more than one branch?

    No, that doesn't happen. Cnidarians are monophyletic, ctenophores are monophyletic, and bilaterians are monophyletic. However, there have at
    times been some questions about whether sponges are, and the
    relationships among cnidarians, ctenophores, and bilaterians can be contentious.

    Does the molecular evidence tend to indicate that animalia itself is polyphyletic?  In other words sponges, cnidarians, ctenophores, and bilaterans all arose from eukaryotes separately and the nervous systems
    of three of the four are the result of convergent evolution?

    Well, sponges don't have nervous systems. But there is some question
    about whether some features of ctenophores arose independently of other animals. Muscles, if I recall.

    Is the least common ancestor of what is now called animalia not even multicellular, and it is not just sponges that are that way?  Thus
    perhaps the only thing they have in common is cholesterol to make cell membranes tough but flexible, and no cell walls?

    No, the ancestor was multicellular. There are also gap junctions.
    Collagen too, I think.

    You know, with every possibe branch, there is the possibility of
    different interpretations.

    What is the orthodox view on the formation of nervous systems?

    Did they arise only once in the animal kingdom or did they
    arise separately, once among the Cnidarians and a second
    time among the Ctenophorans, with both of then having
    similarities due to the functional nature of what nervous
    systems do?

    I believe the majority view is that it happened once.

    But this discovery has no bearing on the question.
    What it clarifies is a taphonomic issue: bryozoans didn't originate in
    the Ordovician; that's just when some of them gained mineralized
    skeletons.


    I caught that from the cited article.



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Inyo@21:1/5 to Inyo on Sat May 7 17:59:49 2022
    On 10/27/2021 5:43 PM, Inyo wrote:

    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    On the paleontological heels of discovering the earliest
    non-mineralized, soft-bodied byrozoan in Earth history (described in the
    link provided, above) we now have a published report of possibly the
    oldest mineralized bryozoan colony yet recovered from the fossil
    record--it's from the lower Cambrian (Stage 4) Harkless Formation of
    Esmeralda County, Nevada, north of Death Valley National Park.

    One caveat is that the investigators allow that confirmation of a "palaeostomate bryozoan affinity," would certainly involve finding an
    early growth stage, bearing the ancestrula with an associated
    protoecium. Nevertheless, the morphologic and taphonomic evidence
    already scrutinized does indeed point to fully mineralized bryozoans
    already well established in early Cambrian Explosion times, pushing back
    their first known mineralized occurrence in the geologic record by some
    30 million years.

    The abstract, from the full paper published online over at https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm8465 :

    "All skeletal marine invertebrate phyla appeared during the Cambrian
    explosion, except for Bryozoa with mineralized skeletons, which first
    appear in the Early Ordovician. However, the skeletal diversity of Early Ordovician bryozoans suggests a preceding interval of diversification.
    We report a possible earliest occurrence of palaeostomate bryozoans in limestones of the Cambrian Age 4 Harkless Formation, western United
    States. Following recent interpretations of the early Cambrian
    Protomelission as a soft-bodied bryozoan, our findings add to the
    evidence of early Cambrian roots for the Bryozoa. The Harkless fossils
    resemble some esthonioporate and cystoporate bryozoans, showing a
    radiating pattern of densely packed tubes of the same diameter and cross-sectional shape. Further, they show partitioning of new
    individuals from parent tubes through the formation of a separate wall,
    a characteristic of interzooecial budding in bryozoans. If confirmed as bryozoans, these fossils would push back the appearance of mineralized skeletons in this phylum by ~30 million years and impact interpretations
    of their evolution."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to Inyo on Sat May 7 18:29:01 2022
    On 5/7/22 5:59 PM, Inyo wrote:
    On 10/27/2021 5:43 PM, Inyo wrote:

    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the
    ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first
    geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated,
    putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of
    October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily
    mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3,
    Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation),
    respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original
    unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes,
    including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from
    the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty
    Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at
    http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic,
    dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The
    presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in
    lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of
    convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered
    resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest
    members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect,
    bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9
    from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential
    stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth
    geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized
    Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P.
    gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum
    Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also
    reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.

    On the paleontological heels of discovering the earliest
    non-mineralized, soft-bodied byrozoan in Earth history (described in the
    link provided, above) we now have a published report of possibly the
    oldest mineralized bryozoan colony yet recovered from the fossil
    record--it's from the lower Cambrian (Stage 4) Harkless Formation of Esmeralda County, Nevada, north of Death Valley National Park.

    One caveat is that the investigators allow that confirmation of a "palaeostomate bryozoan affinity," would certainly involve finding an
    early growth stage, bearing the ancestrula with an associated
    protoecium. Nevertheless, the morphologic and taphonomic evidence
    already scrutinized does indeed point to fully mineralized bryozoans
    already well established in early Cambrian Explosion times, pushing back their first known mineralized occurrence in the geologic record by some
    30 million years.

    The abstract, from the full paper published online over at https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm8465 :

    "All skeletal marine invertebrate phyla appeared during the Cambrian explosion, except for Bryozoa with mineralized skeletons, which first
    appear in the Early Ordovician. However, the skeletal diversity of Early Ordovician bryozoans suggests a preceding interval of diversification.
    We report a possible earliest occurrence of palaeostomate bryozoans in limestones of the Cambrian Age 4 Harkless Formation, western United
    States. Following recent interpretations of the early Cambrian
    Protomelission as a soft-bodied bryozoan, our findings add to the
    evidence of early Cambrian roots for the Bryozoa. The Harkless fossils resemble some esthonioporate and cystoporate bryozoans, showing a
    radiating pattern of densely packed tubes of the same diameter and cross-sectional shape. Further, they show partitioning of new
    individuals from parent tubes through the formation of a separate wall,
    a characteristic of interzooecial budding in bryozoans. If confirmed as bryozoans, these fossils would push back the appearance of mineralized skeletons in this phylum by ~30 million years and impact interpretations
    of their evolution."

    This goes to show the vagaries of preservation, even in Lagerstätten. If
    it's a bryozoan, it also shows a 30-million-year gap in known
    preservation of bryozoan fossils.

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  • From erik simpson@21:1/5 to Inyo on Sun May 8 08:51:05 2022
    On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 5:59:38 PM UTC-7, Inyo wrote:
    On 10/27/2021 5:43 PM, Inyo wrote:

    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated, putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3, Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes, including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .

    The abstract:

    Bryozoans (also known as ectoprocts or moss animals) are aquatic, dominantly sessile, filter-feeding lophophorates that construct an
    organic or calcareous modular colonial (clonal) exoskeleton1–3. The presence of six major orders of bryozoans with\advanced polymorphisms in lower Ordovician rocks strongly suggests a Cambrian origin for the
    largest and most diverse lophophorate phylum2,4–8. However, a lack of convincing bryozoan fossils from the Cambrian period has hampered resolution of the true origins and character assembly of the earliest members of the group. Here we interpret the millimetric, erect, bilaminate, secondarily phosphatized fossil Protomelission gatehousei9 from the early Cambrian of Australia and South China as a potential stem-group bryozoan. The monomorphic zooid capsules, modular
    construction, organic composition and simple linear budding growth geometry represent a mixture of organic Gymnolaemata and biomineralized Stenolaemata character traits, with phylogenetic analyses identifying P. gatehousei as a stem-group bryozoan. This aligns the origin of phylum Bryozoa with all other skeletonized phyla in Cambrian Age 3, pushing
    back its first occurrence by approximately 35 million years. It also reconciles the fossil record with molecular clock estimations of an
    early Cambrian origination and subsequent Ordovician radiation of
    Bryozoa following the acquisition of a carbonate skeleton.
    On the paleontological heels of discovering the earliest
    non-mineralized, soft-bodied byrozoan in Earth history (described in the link provided, above) we now have a published report of possibly the
    oldest mineralized bryozoan colony yet recovered from the fossil record--it's from the lower Cambrian (Stage 4) Harkless Formation of Esmeralda County, Nevada, north of Death Valley National Park.

    One caveat is that the investigators allow that confirmation of a "palaeostomate bryozoan affinity," would certainly involve finding an
    early growth stage, bearing the ancestrula with an associated
    protoecium. Nevertheless, the morphologic and taphonomic evidence
    already scrutinized does indeed point to fully mineralized bryozoans
    already well established in early Cambrian Explosion times, pushing back their first known mineralized occurrence in the geologic record by some
    30 million years.

    The abstract, from the full paper published online over at https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm8465 :

    "All skeletal marine invertebrate phyla appeared during the Cambrian explosion, except for Bryozoa with mineralized skeletons, which first
    appear in the Early Ordovician. However, the skeletal diversity of Early Ordovician bryozoans suggests a preceding interval of diversification.
    We report a possible earliest occurrence of palaeostomate bryozoans in limestones of the Cambrian Age 4 Harkless Formation, western United
    States. Following recent interpretations of the early Cambrian Protomelission as a soft-bodied bryozoan, our findings add to the
    evidence of early Cambrian roots for the Bryozoa. The Harkless fossils resemble some esthonioporate and cystoporate bryozoans, showing a
    radiating pattern of densely packed tubes of the same diameter and cross-sectional shape. Further, they show partitioning of new
    individuals from parent tubes through the formation of a separate wall,
    a characteristic of interzooecial budding in bryozoans. If confirmed as bryozoans, these fossils would push back the appearance of mineralized skeletons in this phylum by ~30 million years and impact interpretations
    of their evolution."

    Thanks! I missed this, but I won't miss checking it out. It's only a couple of hours away.

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  • From Peter Nyikos@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 19:17:58 2022
    On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 8:59:38 PM UTC-4, Inyo wrote:

    Hi, Inyo! I returned yesterday from a half-year posting break, so I am only responding now.

    I could kick myself for having missed your October post, well before my posting break began.
    I've had lots of occasions to talk about the Cambrian explosion, and always I had to add "..except for Bryozoa..."
    Now, no longer!

    On 10/27/2021 5:43 PM, Inyo wrote:

    Molecular clock analyses definitely suggest that Bryozoa (AKA, the ectoprocts) should have been around during early Cambrian Explosion
    times, though direct fossil evidence had long-constrained their first geologic occurrence to the early Ordovician, with a hotly debated, putative bryozoa example reported from the late Cambrian.

    A paper just published online, and now available for pdf download (as of October 27, 2021), describes what the authors call a potential
    stem-group bryozoan, preserved as secondarily mineralized--phosphatized--specimens from Cambrian Stages 4 and 3, Australia (Wirrealpa Limestone) and South China (Dengying Formation), respectively. They call it Protomelission gatehousei, whose original unmineralized body plan shares traits with several Bryozoa classes, including the soft-bodied Gymnolaemata (Ctenostomata).

    Your new announcement is fascinating in the light of the following statement you made back in October:

    By the way, the oldest bryozoans I've personally collected derives from the lower Middle Ordovician Antelope Valley Limestone, Great Beatty Mudmound, western Nevada. See a photograph of them over at http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/beatty/beatty15.html ,

    Download the entire paper over at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04033-w .


    <skip to get to the fascinating feature of your new announcement>

    On the paleontological heels of discovering the earliest
    non-mineralized, soft-bodied byrozoan in Earth history (described in the link provided, above) we now have a published report of possibly the
    oldest mineralized bryozoan colony yet recovered from the fossil record--it's from the lower Cambrian (Stage 4) Harkless Formation of Esmeralda County, Nevada, north of Death Valley National Park.

    Western Nevada again!! after the first discovery having been on the other side of our planet!
    Will you be planning to go up there any time soon?

    If you do, I'll be looking forward eagerly to your report about it.

    One caveat is that the investigators allow that confirmation of a "palaeostomate bryozoan affinity," would certainly involve finding an
    early growth stage, bearing the ancestrula with an associated
    protoecium. Nevertheless, the morphologic and taphonomic evidence
    already scrutinized does indeed point to fully mineralized bryozoans
    already well established in early Cambrian Explosion times, pushing back their first known mineralized occurrence in the geologic record by some
    30 million years.

    If these "bryomorphs" (as they are called in the article) are animals, then the evidence is strong that they are at least stem bryozoans,
    meaning that they are closer phylogenetically to bryozoans than toany other living phylum.
    It would be better, of course, if they were crown bryozoans, and that accounts for
    the stress placed on finding an early growth stage as described.

    The abstract, from the full paper published online over at https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abm8465 :

    I wrote "if they are animals," because the paper dwells for a long time on two calcimicrobe genera,
    one of which, *Bija*, has been assigned to cyanobacteria:

    "There are varieties of calcimicrobial fossils that have similarities to the bryomorph fossils described here. Bija and Hedstroemia are two examples of Paleozoic calcimicrobes with structures reminiscent of the fossils described here (26–28).
    Originally, Bija was described from the Verkhneynyrga Formation of the Lebed’ River, Mountain Altay, southern Siberia, Russia (29). Bija has since been found from lower Cambrian (stages 2 to 4) carbonates of other Siberian areas and the South Urals,
    Russia (30–32) as well as from the Mackenzie Mountains of Canada (33), olistoliths associated with reefs in the Great Basin, Nevada, ..."

    There we go again, Nevada! The term "calcimicrobe" was new to me, so I looked it up, and found this:

    https://geologylearn.blogspot.com/2016/08/calcimicrobescyanobacteria-blue-green.html

    In it, there is a microphotograph that very much reminded me of one of the bryomorphs.
    It follows the paragraph,

    "Lo. Cambrian (Tommotian) Pestrotsvet Fm., Siberian Platform, Russia
    Dendritic growth forms of the widespread calcimicrobe or microproblematic organism, Epiphyton. This genus has distinctively thick, solid branches. It commonly forms unusually large growths that can be a substantial rockforming element in association
    with other framework organisms. Figure below

    Comparing it with some photographs in your referenced article, Inyo,
    I can understand the caveat I kept in above. There is at least a superficial resemblance
    to Fig. 3 B in their article. Also, Fig. 5 in their article reminded me of
    the one in the geologylearn webpage which comes after the following paragraph:

    Up. Permian (Kazanian?) Karstryggen Fm., Jameson Land, East Greenland Calcified. microproblematic, densely branching growths. Such calcified arborescent remains have been considered as microbial by some workers and as green algal by others. The examples shown here were formed and preserved in shallow-marine areas with
    exceptionally high rates of marine cementation. Figure below


    Needless to say, I will be alert for any new developments about the affinities of
    the bryomorphs of the Harkless Formation. Thank you for sharing this fascinating
    find with us, Inyo.


    Peter Nyikos
    Professor, Department of Mathematics
    University of South Carolina -- standard disclaimer -- https://people.math.sc.edu/nyikos/


    "All skeletal marine invertebrate phyla appeared during the Cambrian explosion, except for Bryozoa with mineralized skeletons, which first
    appear in the Early Ordovician. However, the skeletal diversity of Early Ordovician bryozoans suggests a preceding interval of diversification.
    We report a possible earliest occurrence of palaeostomate bryozoans in limestones of the Cambrian Age 4 Harkless Formation, western United
    States. Following recent interpretations of the early Cambrian Protomelission as a soft-bodied bryozoan, our findings add to the
    evidence of early Cambrian roots for the Bryozoa. The Harkless fossils resemble some esthonioporate and cystoporate bryozoans, showing a
    radiating pattern of densely packed tubes of the same diameter and cross-sectional shape. Further, they show partitioning of new
    individuals from parent tubes through the formation of a separate wall,
    a characteristic of interzooecial budding in bryozoans. If confirmed as bryozoans, these fossils would push back the appearance of mineralized skeletons in this phylum by ~30 million years and impact interpretations
    of their evolution."

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