• Re: Possible 2.4 Gya microfossil

    From trolidous@21:1/5 to erik simpson on Tue Jan 2 11:07:08 2024
    On 12/30/23 09:37, erik simpson wrote:
    Distinctive microfossil supports early Paleoproterozoic rise in complex cellular organisation

    Abstract

    The great oxidation event (GOE), ~2.4 billion years ago, caused
    fundamental changes to the chemistry of Earth's surface environments. However, the effect of these changes on the biosphere is unknown, due to
    a worldwide lack of well-preserved fossils from this time. Here, we investigate exceptionally preserved, large spherical aggregate (SA) microfossils permineralised in chert from the c. 2.4 Ga Turee Creek
    Group in Western Australia. Field and petrographic observations, Raman spectroscopic mapping, and in situ carbon isotopic analyses uncover
    insights into the morphology, habitat, reproduction and metabolism of
    this unusual form, whose distinctive, SA morphology has no known
    counterpart in the fossil record. Comparative analysis with microfossils from before the GOE reveals the large SA microfossils represent a
    step-up in cellular organisation. Morphological comparison to extant micro-organisms indicates the SAs have more in common with coenobial
    algae than coccoidal bacteria, emphasising the complexity of this microfossil form. The remarkable preservation here provides a unique
    window into the biosphere, revealing an increase in the complexity of
    life coinciding with the GOE.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/gbi.12576

    I am thinking that did not instantaneously happen all
    at once 2.4 billion years ago.

    To the best of my understanding, I am thinking that most
    of the world's iron ore deposits happened because iron is
    much more soluble in water under conditions where carbon
    dioxide is dissolved in the water in great amounts rather
    than at a different ratio than what you would expect if
    there were significant amounts of oxygen in the atmosphere
    and much less carbon dioxide.

    The starvation of some metal ions dissolved in the ocean
    now for the production of organisms, which might be at
    the bottom of the ocean kilometers deeper than the photic
    zone near the top of the ocean, may be somewhat of a
    limiting factor for life in the oceans now. Shallow
    waters with somewhat more or less dissolveable particles near
    the top sunlight layer tend to be more productive for life
    and the microscopic photosynthetic algae that is
    the basis of the food chain in the oceans often in
    comparison with many deeper open waters.

    In essence, iron had to precipitate out of the ocean before
    the atmosphere could convert from carbon dioxide to oxygen
    and nitrogen, and a lot of iron ore deposits date from as
    recent as one and a half billion years ago. That is almost
    a billion more recent than 2.4.

    In general however, of course, oxygen producing photosynthesis
    would have to be able to exist to BEGIN the process, so the start
    of it might therefore of course be earlier.

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  • From trolidan@21:1/5 to erik simpson on Thu Jan 4 15:07:33 2024
    On 1/2/24 14:15, erik simpson wrote:
    On 1/2/24 11:07 AM, trolidous wrote:
    On 12/30/23 09:37, erik simpson wrote:
    Distinctive microfossil supports early Paleoproterozoic rise in
    complex
    cellular organisation
    ;
    Abstract
    ;
    The great oxidation event (GOE), ~2.4 billion years ago, caused
    fundamental changes to the chemistry of Earth's surface environments.
    However, the effect of these changes on the biosphere is unknown,
    due to
    a worldwide lack of well-preserved fossils from this time. Here, we
    investigate exceptionally preserved, large spherical aggregate (SA)
    microfossils permineralised in chert from the c. 2.4 Ga Turee Creek
    Group in Western Australia. Field and petrographic observations, Raman >>  > spectroscopic mapping, and in situ carbon isotopic analyses uncover
    insights into the morphology, habitat, reproduction and metabolism of
    this unusual form, whose distinctive, SA morphology has no known
    counterpart in the fossil record. Comparative analysis with
    microfossils
    from before the GOE reveals the large SA microfossils represent a
    step-up in cellular organisation. Morphological comparison to extant
    micro-organisms indicates the SAs have more in common with coenobial
    algae than coccoidal bacteria, emphasising the complexity of this
    microfossil form. The remarkable preservation here provides a unique
    window into the biosphere, revealing an increase in the complexity of
    life coinciding with the GOE.
    ;
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/gbi.12576

    I am thinking that did not instantaneously happen all
    at once 2.4 billion years ago.

    To the best of my understanding, I am thinking that most
    of the world's iron ore deposits happened because iron is
    much more soluble in water under conditions where carbon
    dioxide is dissolved in the water in great amounts rather
    than at a different ratio than what you would expect if
    there were significant amounts of oxygen in the atmosphere
    and much less carbon dioxide.

    The starvation of some metal ions dissolved in the ocean
    now for the production of organisms, which might be at
    the bottom of the ocean kilometers deeper than the photic
    zone near the top of the ocean, may be somewhat of a
    limiting factor for life in the oceans now.  Shallow
    waters with somewhat more or less dissolveable particles near
    the top sunlight layer tend to be more productive for life
    and the microscopic photosynthetic algae that is
    the basis of the food chain in the oceans often in
    comparison with many deeper open waters.

    In essence, iron had to precipitate out of the ocean before
    the atmosphere could convert from carbon dioxide to oxygen
    and nitrogen, and a lot of iron ore deposits date from as
    recent as one and a half billion years ago.  That is almost
    a billion more recent than 2.4.

    In general however, of course, oxygen producing photosynthesis
    would have to be able to exist to BEGIN the process, so the start
    of it might therefore of course be earlier.


    The GOE is indeed complicated, Wiki has a good summary. Photosynthetic bacteria first evolved in archeal bacteria, but did not produce oxygen.
    Only later did cyanobacteria appear, which drove the GOE.

    You know, to me at least, the word 'event'
    sounds like it is relatively rapid. Some of
    those phenomena in geologic time seem to
    me to be rather long.

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