So back in... 2007, was it? I remember arguing with
talk.origins. Seriously. I argued with talk.origins. The
group. Me.

There was JTEM on one side and everybody else on
the other...

So what was the topic? I was arguing in favor of
Neanderthals interbreeding with so-called "Moderns,"
the mouth breathers were arguing against it.

Well. Not so much "Arguing" as naysaying. I laid out
the problem I was seeing, cited a study completely
contradicting the mtDNA based claims and... well...

Nobody acknowledged it.

So, yeah, JTEM was later proven right and he was
never forgiven.

LESSON: It's okay to tell people what frigging idiots
they are, but only so long as they are capable of
maintaining the illusion that you are wrong. Otherwise
they get a permanently poopie diaper...

Now fast forward to 2015. This is when I start reading
about Naledi.

(No, I don't get the memos so I tend to be behind these
things)

So it's 2015, I hear about Naledi and JTEM is of course
right. About everything. The media turns out to be
bullshit -- everything from modern brains to being 2+
million years old and... and... and one more thing.

Wait. Not sure if I disputed the brain claim at that point,
certainly don't recall seeing the "Evidence" that early
on, but there was one more thing I did immediately
attack.

Yes, there was one more thing JTEM disputed.

Get it? It's 2015, I'm only just hearing about Naledi and
I was disputing the claims. Here's one claim I disputed:



crow...@eircom.net wrote:

It's unlikely that there would have been any trace of
a "slight lens-shaped disturbance" after all that time
-- even if they'd been looking for one, which frankly
I doubt.

"They buried their dead" is dumb for a lot of reasons,
but let's just touch on a few...

#1. It doesn't answer any questions.

There's no questions that "They buried their dead"
answers. Nobody is wondering how bodies got some
place or why they find things a certain way -- in a
context where "They buried their dead" would answer.

[NOTE: "Where they buried their dead would answer
but other conclusions would not more satisfactorily
answer"]

In the recent cave finds, for example, this supposed
"Homo Naledi," everyone outside of the playground
seems pretty satisfied that a group died inside the
cave.

#2. It RAISES questions that don't otherwise exist.

If they were burying their dead 100k years ago, or
even millions or years ago, why did they stop? Why
isn't Africa littered with graves? Why do we find
clear, unambiguous graves as far away as
Australia Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
before we find them in Africa? How/why did Africa
FORGET how to bury their dead?

[NOTE: You should be able to infer from the above that
JTEM, in all his brilliance, was already challenging the
2+ million year old claim. Yes I did express this stupid
age claim directly in other posts, but this one was about
the stupid burial claims]

It's not that we're "Missing" 100k year old graves (and
much older) because nobody thought to look, we're
missing 60k year old, and even 40k years old... we're
missing EVERYTHING. We find plenty of graves, and just
not in Africa.

Interesting note, and perhaps related: We DO have
unambiguous evidence for cannibalism going back at
least 800 thousand years. Perhaps they never buried
their dead EVEN LONG AFTER A POINT WHEN THEY
COULD because they couldn't afford to waste all that
free protein & calories...

Gross, by our modern standards, but only because you
are projecting yourself, your thinking, backwards in time...
as evidence by your "Graves."

[So bask in my glow, everyone. BASK! Damnit, BACK
IN THE GLOW OF JTEM'S BRILLIANCE!]

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/1NgYt59uLpE/m/yrLpfSP3AgAJ

There. Archived online.

BASK!




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