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Not sure what the teeming monarchs in these videos are evidence for. The dates show that the monarch migration was underway when they were recorded. We have large numbers of monarchs moving through MN at this time-but where are they coming from? Not
necessarily from the roadsides and hayfields in the corn-beans carpet.
Robert Dana
Minneapolis
From:
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Subject: Re: [Leps-l] The Xerces Society Announces the 2016 Joan Mosenthal DeWind Award Winners
Anecdotal. I would rather not hear about pesticide salesmanship. Thanks.
Roger Kuhlman
Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:54:43 -0700
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Monarch butterflies are undergoing a long-term population decline.
Although different factors are hypothesized to cause this decline,
one potential factor is the exposure of their milkweed host plants
to neonicotinoid insecticides when growing in close proximity to
agricultural fields.
The wildflowers and syriaca milkweed plants that are growing next to
the vast corn and soybean fields in the upper Midwest are teaming
with monarch butterflies, other butterflies and bumblebees like this
despite the fact that those crops are grown from neonicotinoid coated
seeds:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DOoPdnTepKok&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=tVAKMFPe3UCcsMWUFXo0FeX0xe1JUAj77B74DAI3DKI&m=TFRu0npvUt58LKWrw9ByykClWkObx6Jiwjr8EC8kcB8&s=-
lnZQs56B8oLtb7P2hnlSMKZCfVXskox9rUgNX6i798&e= <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DOoPdnTepKok&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=tVAKMFPe3UCcsMWUFXo0FeX0xe1JUAj77B74DAI3DKI&m=
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https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DqeC8-2DrnxenI&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=tVAKMFPe3UCcsMWUFXo0FeX0xe1JUAj77B74DAI3DKI&m=TFRu0npvUt58LKWrw9ByykClWkObx6Jiwjr8EC8kcB8&s=
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So it would be a real stretch look a midwestern farmer in the eye with a straight face and say: "mind if we use your property to try and determine
if the neonicotinoid insecticides you use might be a significant cause of
the midwestern monarch population decline?"
Paul Cherubini
El Dorado, Calif.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Not sure what the teeming monarchs in these videos are evidence for. The dates show that the monarch migration was underway when they
were recorded. We have
large numbers of monarchs moving through MN at this time—but where are they coming from? Not necessarily from the roadsides and hayfields in the corn-beans carpet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Robert Dana<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Minneapolis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
leps-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:
leps-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Kuhlman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leps List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Leps-l] The Xerces Society Announces the 2016 Joan Mosenthal DeWind Award Winners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Anecdotal. I would rather not hear about pesticide salesmanship. Thanks.<br>
Roger Kuhlman<br>
Ann Arbor, Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
<a href="mailto:
monarch@saber.net">
monarch@saber.net</a><br>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 15:54:43 -0700<br>
To: <a href="mailto:
leps-l@mailman.yale.edu">
leps-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br> Subject: Re: [Leps-l] The Xerces Society Announces the 2016 Joan Mosenthal DeWind Award Winners<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Monarch butterflies are undergoing a long-term population decline.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Although different factors are hypothesized to cause this decline,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">one potential factor is the exposure of their milkweed host plants</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to neonicotinoid insecticides when growing in close proximity to</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The wildflowers and syriaca milkweed plants that are growing next to <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">the vast corn and soybean fields in the upper Midwest are teaming <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">with monarch butterflies, other butterflies and bumblebees like this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">despite the fact that those crops are grown from neonicotinoid coated<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">seeds:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoPdnTepKok</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So it would be a real stretch look a midwestern farmer in the eye with a <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">straight face and say: “mind if we use your property to try and determine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">if the neonicotinoid insecticides you use might be a significant cause of <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">the midwestern monarch population decline?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Paul Cherubini</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">El Dorado, Calif.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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