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[Leps-l] Anyone ever hear of moths referred to as Heterocerids?

From Hugh McGuinness@21:1/5 to jshuey@tnc.org on Mon Mar 1 06:34:23 2021

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A quick Google search shows Heteroceridae to be a family of beetles.

Hugh

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<div dir="ltr"><div>A quick Google search shows Heteroceridae to be a family of beetles.</div><div><br></div><div>Hugh<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 9:27 AM John Shuey <<a href="
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From Neil Jones@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 1 07:15:19 2021

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As others are saying it is incorrect. The correct term is clearly heterocera.

It is Greek and is plural

The it means different or varied horns.

The root word here in Ancient Greek is έ (Keras) and it is a neuter second declension noun so the nominative plural is έ.

Neil Jones neil@aurinia.co.uk

ON 14:27, 1ST MAR 2021, JOHN SHUEY WROTE:

Am I falling behind the times - or is this a made up term? A quote from an SER publication -

_ "As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys across the state of New Jersey"._

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j

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<body><div><div>As others are saying it is incorrect. The correct term is clearly heterocera.</div>

<div>It is Greek and is plural</div>

<div>The it means different or varied horns.</div>

<div>The root word here in Ancient Greek is <strong>κέρα&sigmaf;</strong> (Keras) and it is a neuter second declension noun so the nominative plural is κέρα.</div>

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<div>Neil Jones neil@aurinia.co.uk</div>

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<div><strong>On 14:27, 1st Mar 2021, John Shuey wrote:</strong></div>

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<div><div>Am I falling behind the times – or is this a made up term?  A quote from an SER publication –</div>

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<div><em><span style="color:#515151; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; font-size:10.5pt"> “As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys across
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<div>Thanks,</div>

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Hi John,
This refers to outdated divisions of Lepidoptera, were butterflies are in Rhopalocera and moths are in Heterocera.
John C.

On Monday, March 1, 2021, 9:27 AM, John Shuey <jshuey@TNC.ORG> wrote:


Am I falling behind the times – or is this a made up term? A quote from an SER publication –

“As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys across the state of New Jersey”.

Thanks,

j

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<p class="yiv4930854516MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#515151;"> “As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys
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Yes, its used correctly.
Order Lepidoptera - Butterflies and Moths
Suborder Heterocera - Moths
Suborder Rhopalocera - Butterflies

-----Original Message-----
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To: Leps-L <leps-l@mailman.yale.edu>
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:27 am
Subject: [Leps-l] Anyone ever hear of moths referred to as Heterocerids?

Am I
falling behind the times – or is this a made up term? A quote from an SER publication – “As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys across the
state of New Jersey”. Thanks, j   Please consider the environment before printing this email
| John A Shuey, PhD
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<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">Yes, its used correctly.
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<div>Order Lepidoptera - Butterflies and Moths</div>

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From: John Shuey <jshuey@TNC.ORG><br>
To: Leps-L <leps-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:27 am<br>
Subject: [Leps-l] Anyone ever hear of moths referred to as Heterocerids?<br>

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<div class="yiv9264646078MsoNormal">Am I falling behind the times – or is this a made up term?  A quote from an SER publication –
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<div class="yiv9264646078MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#515151;"> “As a scientist and naturalist, Blaine has spent hundreds of nights conducting Nocturnal Lepidoptera (Heterocerids, a.k.a. Moths) surveys
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New Jersey”.</span></i><i><u></u></i></div>

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<i>Director of Conservation Science</i><br>

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317.917.2478 - Fax <br>

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