• [Leps-l] Hesperiinae: video of unknown structure / behavior

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    I was filming a Peck's skipper the other day, (Polites peckius) and saw something that I had never seen before: some large black bristles jumped
    into place when the (male) butterfly opened its wings. You can see the
    video here:

    https://vimeo.com/423768722

    The butterfly was perching for quite a long time before this. I did not
    seen any female nearby.

    I'm assuming this is some sort of hair-pencil, or male scent scales. Does anyone know anything about these in Hesperiinae? Can you point me to any references as to their function? Does anyone know if some or all of the Hesperiinae have these structures? I have seen something about hair-pencils
    on the tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to be from between the fore and hind wings.

    Would love to learn more!

    Jeff Fast
    www.MineralMovies.com <http://www.MineralMovies.com>
    (860) 985 - 6321



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    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">I was filming a Peck&#8217;s skipper the other day, (Polites pe</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">ckius) and saw something that I
    had never seen before: some large black bristle</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">s</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="
    Calibri"> jumped into place when the (male) butterfly open</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">ed</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><
    FONT FACE="Calibri"> its wings.&nbsp; You can see the video here:</FONT></SPAN></P>

    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><A HREF="https://vimeo.com/423768722"><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#0088CC" FACE="Helvetica">https://vimeo.com/
    42376872</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#0088CC" FACE="Helvetica">2</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN>
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    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">The butterfly was perching for quite a long time before this.&nbsp; I did not seen any female nearby.</FONT></SPAN></P>

    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">&#8217;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><
    FONT FACE="Calibri">m assuming this is some sort of hair</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">-</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT
    FACE="Calibri">pencil, o</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">r male scent scales.&nbsp; Does anyone know anything about these</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></
    SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri"> in Hesperiinae</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">?&nbsp; Can you point me to any references as to their function?&nbsp; Do</FONT></SPAN><
    SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">es anyone know if some or all of the Hesperiinae have these structures?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT
    FACE="Calibri">&nbsp; I have seen something about hair-pencils on the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT FACE="Calibri">tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to be from between the fore
    and hind wings.</FONT></SPAN></P>

    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">Would love to learn more!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>

    <P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT FACE="Calibri">Jeff Fast</FONT></SPAN></P>

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    I checked the male skipper shots from my book pictures (BF of the East
    Coast) and saw that most spread males have similar 'hair-pencils.' As near
    as I could tell from a quick review (most pix don't show point of
    connection, they seem to emanate from the leading edge of the HW (but hard
    to say, could be from the body nearby). So this isn't an aberration.



    Rick



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    I was filming a Peck's skipper the other day, (Polites peckius) and saw something that I had never seen before: some large black bristles jumped
    into place when the (male) butterfly opened its wings. You can see the
    video here:

    <https://vimeo.com/423768722> https://vimeo.com/423768722

    The butterfly was perching for quite a long time before this. I did not
    seen any female nearby.

    I'm assuming this is some sort of hair-pencil, or male scent scales. Does anyone know anything about these in Hesperiinae? Can you point me to any references as to their function? Does anyone know if some or all of the Hesperiinae have these structures? I have seen something about hair-pencils
    on the tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to be from between the fore and hind wings.

    Would love to learn more!

    Jeff Fast

    <http://www.MineralMovies.com> www.MineralMovies.com

    (860) 985 - 6321




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    8216;hair-pencils.&#8217; As near as I could tell from a quick review (most pix don&#8217;t show point of connection, they seem to emanate from the leading edge of the HW (but hard to say, could be from the body nearby). So this isn&#8217;t an aberration.
    <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b>
    Leps-l &lt;leps-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>jeff@mineralmovies.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 4:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> leps-l@mailman.yale.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> [Leps-l] Hesperiinae: video of unknown structure / behavior<
    </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>I was filming a Peck&#8217;s skipper the other day, (Polites peckius) and saw something that I had never seen before: some large black bristles jumped into place when the (male)
    butterfly opened its wings.&nbsp; You can see the video here:<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="https://vimeo.com/423768722"><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0088CC'>https://vimeo.com/423768722</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p>The butterfly was
    perching for quite a long time before this.&nbsp; I did not seen any female nearby.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I&#8217;m assuming this is some sort of hair-pencil, or male scent scales.&nbsp; Does anyone know anything about these in Hesperiinae?&nbsp; Can you
    point me to any references as to their function?&nbsp; Does anyone know if some or all of the Hesperiinae have these structures?&nbsp; I have seen something about hair-pencils on the tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to be from between
    the fore and hind wings.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Would love to learn more!<o:p></o:p></p><p>Jeff Fast<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.MineralMovies.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.MineralMovies.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p>(860) 985 - 6321<o:p></o:
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  • From Charles Covell@21:1/5 to jeff@mineralmovies.com on Thu May 28 17:43:34 2020
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    Never too late to discover something anew. Best wishes to y'all and stay
    safe.

    Cheers, Charlie

    On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 4:36 PM <jeff@mineralmovies.com> wrote:

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    I was filming a Peck’s skipper the other day, (Polites peckius) and saw something that I had never seen before: some large black bristles jumped
    into place when the (male) butterfly opened its wings. You can see the
    video here:

    https://vimeo.com/423768722

    The butterfly was perching for quite a long time before this. I did not
    seen any female nearby.

    I’m assuming this is some sort of hair-pencil, or male scent scales.
    Does anyone know anything about these in Hesperiinae? Can you point me
    to any references as to their function? Does anyone know if some or all
    of the Hesperiinae have these structures? I have seen something about hair-pencils on the tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to
    be from between the fore and hind wings.

    Would love to learn more!

    Jeff Fast

    *www.MineralMovies.com* <http://www.MineralMovies.com>

    (860) 985 - 6321

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    <div dir="ltr">Never too late to discover something anew.  Best wishes to y&#39;all and stay safe.<div><br></div><div>Cheers, Charlie</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 4:36 PM &lt;<a href="
    mailto:jeff@mineralmovies.com">jeff@mineralmovies.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>






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    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I was filming a Peck’s skipper the other day, (Polites pe</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ckius) and saw something that I had
    never
    seen before: some large black bristle</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">s</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">
    jumped
    into place when the (male) butterfly open</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">ed</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"

    its wings.  You can see the video here:</font></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><a href="https://vimeo.com/423768722" target="_blank"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font color="#0088CC" face="Helvetica">
    https://vimeo.com/42376872</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font color="#0088CC" face="Helvetica">2</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span></a><span
    lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">The butterfly was perching for quite a long time before this.  I did not seen any female nearby.</font></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">I</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">’</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font
    face="Calibri">m
    assuming this is some sort of hair</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">-</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">pencil,
    o</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">r
    male scent scales.  Does anyone know anything about these</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> in Hesperiinae</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
    lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">? 
    Can you point me to any references as to their function?  Do</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">es anyone know if some or all of the Hesperiinae have these structures?</font></span><
    span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri"> 
    I have seen something about hair-pencils on the</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">
    <font face="Calibri">tibia of some male skippers, but these scales seem to be from between the fore and hind wings.</font></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Would love to learn more!</font></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">Jeff Fast</font></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"></span><a href="http://www.MineralMovies.com" target="_blank"><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"><u></u></span><u><span lang="en-us"></span></u><u><span lang="en-us"><font color="#0563C1"
    face="Calibri">www.MineralMovies.com</font></span></u><span lang="en-us"></span></a><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
    <p dir="LTR"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Calibri">(860) 985 - 6321</font></span></p>

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