• interesting dark-matter candidate

    From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 27 09:50:51 2018
    I'm now at a cosmology conference:
    https://indico.cern.ch/event/736594/overview

    One reason to go to a conference is to hear about interesting things one
    might have missed. For me, probably the most interesting talk was the penultimate one, an update on these publications concerning a novel
    dark-matter candidate:

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1202.0560
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1311.1627 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/496/1/012023 https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.04206

    There are many connections between particle physics and astronomy, but
    this is closer than most, is a really novel idea, makes clear
    predictions, explains very many (otherwise not closely related) things
    with a simple idea, and has already had some predictions confirmed.


    While I've been to other conferences which covered a wide range of
    topics, at this one there were intentionally no sessions on specific
    topics, but, say, a talk on observational astronomy could be followed by
    one on theoretical particle physics.

    I can't write a summary here, of course, but one general theme is that
    while large-scale cosmology is more or less solved, it is becoming even
    more clear that many things about galaxies, particularly dwarf galaxies,
    are not understood, and it is unclear which of many options is the way
    forward. One aspect of this is dark matter, and both the lack of direct
    (or indirect) detections as well as the discovery of a light Higgs seems
    to be swinging the pendulum away from WIMPs as dark matter to other
    ideas. Also, it might turn out that more than one of the alternatives
    to WIMPs is correct.

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  • From jacobnavia@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 28 20:47:15 2018
    Le 27/10/2018 à 18:50, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) a écrit :
    I'm now at a cosmology conference: https://indico.cern.ch/event/736594/overview

    One reason to go to a conference is to hear about interesting things one might have missed. For me, probably the most interesting talk was the penultimate one, an update on these publications concerning a novel dark-matter candidate:

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1202.0560
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1311.1627 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/496/1/012023 https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.04206


    Those papers do not show any physical evidence. The common author in all
    papers is Jarah Evslin, working in Peking.

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1202.0560 says:

    We propose a model of dark matter: galaxy-sized 't Hooft-Polyakov
    magnetic monopoles

    OK. The only evidence is presented in:
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.04206. This paper shows a simulation for
    "Spiked monopoles" done in some computer. According to the authors:
    <quote>
    Dark matter halos grow by merging. This merging requires them to be
    attractive, but the simplest manifestation of monopole dark matter is repulsive.
    <end quote>

    !!!

    <quote>
    If the magnetic repulsion is sufficiently weak, then it can be overcome
    by gravity. However fitting parameters in the simplest model [1] one
    finds that v â¼ 1014 GeV and so the magnetic repulsion is stronger than gravitational attraction by nearly 10 orders of magnitude. In the spiked monopole model, the gravitational repulsion is reduced. The crudeness of
    our numerical simulations and initial conditions makes it difficult to
    quantify the repulsion, however it clearly is not reduced by the
    required 10 orders of magnitude.
    <end quote>
    ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/496/1/012023 https://arxiv.org/abs/1311.1627

    Same author, slightly different presentation, similar arguments. Both
    papers are almost the same.

    <quote>
    Unfortunately these monopoles repel and so the charge Q > 1 halos are
    unstable. This may rule out our model. Then again, protons repel but
    visible matter is mostly made of protons, as the repulsion at small
    distances is canceled by neutrons and at large distances is screened by electrons. The monopoles only repel at long distances. So what are the
    analogs of the electrons? Electrons carry the opposite charge from
    protons but cannot annihilate with protons as they carry a flavor
    quantum number and the lightest state for a decay product, the neutron,
    is too massive for the decay to be kinematically allowed. Similarly such
    a flavor quantum number for the monopoles is an automatic consequence of
    our fermionic couplings. The masses of the various flavors of monopoles
    can be adjusted by choosing the Yukawa couplings. We propose to include
    light antimonopoles of a different flavor which screen the long distance repulsion of our monopoles. If such a screening cannot be made to work,
    our proposal will be excluded.
    <end quote>

    Let's see then...

    They have to first find out the "electrons" that would screen out the
    repulsion between those galaxy sized monopoles.

    All this is interesting, yes, but it is very difficult to gauge if there
    is any connection with reality at this stage. Mathematics is an infinite forest, and it is very easy to lose your way in the equation undergrowth...

    Obviously too, I am in NO WAY able to follow precisely those papers, and
    can only look at the conclusions.

    jacob

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  • From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)@21:1/5 to jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr on Mon Oct 29 09:40:47 2018
    In article <pr56ue$4hp$1@dont-email.me>, jacobnavia
    <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:

    Those papers do not show any physical evidence.

    Right. If they did, they would be reporting a dark-matter detection,
    not discussing a candidate. So, to first order, this is another
    candidate like many others: WIMPs, MACHOs, PBHs, fuzzy dark matter, self-interacting dark matter, superfluid dark matter, etc.

    The common author in all
    papers is Jarah Evslin,

    Right.

    working in Peking.

    Not any more, though still in China. While there might be some examples
    of people from the West working in China because they couldn't get any
    academic job elsewhere (I have met some), Evslin is definitely not one
    of those. He is extremely knowledgeable about both astronomy and
    particle physics. This is also a rare combination (not counting people
    who work on BBN, inflation, etc, which is mainly particle physics
    applied to an astrophysical problem).

    <quote>
    Dark matter halos grow by merging. This merging requires them to be attractive, but the simplest manifestation of monopole dark matter is repulsive.
    <end quote>

    !!!

    Don't let this throw you off.

    Unfortunately these monopoles repel and so the charge Q > 1 halos are unstable. This may rule out our model. Then again, protons repel but
    visible matter is mostly made of protons, as the repulsion at small
    distances is canceled by neutrons and at large distances is screened by electrons. The monopoles only repel at long distances. So what are the analogs of the electrons? Electrons carry the opposite charge from
    protons but cannot annihilate with protons as they carry a flavor
    quantum number and the lightest state for a decay product, the neutron,
    is too massive for the decay to be kinematically allowed. Similarly such=

    a flavor quantum number for the monopoles is an automatic consequence of=

    our fermionic couplings. The masses of the various flavors of monopoles
    can be adjusted by choosing the Yukawa couplings. We propose to include
    light antimonopoles of a different flavor which screen the long distance=

    repulsion of our monopoles. If such a screening cannot be made to work,
    our proposal will be excluded.
    <end quote>

    Let's see then...

    They have to first find out the "electrons" that would screen out the repulsion between those galaxy sized monopoles.

    All this is interesting, yes, but it is very difficult to gauge if there=

    is any connection with reality at this stage. Mathematics is an infinite=

    forest, and it is very easy to lose your way in the equation undergrowth.=
    ..

    Obviously too, I am in NO WAY able to follow precisely those papers, and=

    can only look at the conclusions.

    The thing which makes this idea interesting is that it explains, at one
    fell swoop, many of the most pressing problems at the border between
    cosmology and astrophysics, in particular the observed properties of
    low-mass galaxies, satellite galaxies, the matter distribution within
    galaxies, and so on. Yes, the theory itself is one of many, but this it
    has in common with other candidates. What makes it interesting is that
    it explains much more and makes robust testable predictions.

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