• Parker Solar Probe

    From Richard D. Saam@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 13 09:48:42 2018
    The Eugene Parker Solar Probe has just launched
    to investigate close up solar magnetic and electric fields.
    In his book:
    "Conversations on Electric and Magnetic Fields in the Cosmos"
    Dr Parker notes:
    a SI charge non 'mass, length and time' definition as coulomb
    is a limitation for dimensional analysis of such EM problems.
    One wonders if his 'mass, length and time' analysis
    of such EM problems in cgs units system
    provided him with scientific reasoning in regards to solar EM fields
    deemed crazy by his peers at the time 50 years ago
    but which are currently accepted as true
    and the basis for his named solar probe.

    Richard D Saam

    [[Mod. note -- Actually, there's very little dimensional analysis in
    Parker's 1958 paper. That paper can be read online (open-access!) at
    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1958ApJ...128..664P
    -- jt]]

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  • From Bruce D. Scott@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 14 11:28:27 2018
    [[Mod. note -- Actually, there's very little dimensional analysis in Parker's 1958 paper. That paper can be read online (open-access!) at
    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1958ApJ...128..664P
    -- jt]]

    When I was a student we learned from

    Cosmical magnetic fields: Their origin and their activity
    E N Parker
    Oxford, Clarendon Press; New York, Oxford University Press, 1979

    which was just out then!

    Unfortunately it is 250 USD and up on Amazon

    --
    ciao,
    Bruce

    drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/

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  • From Richard D. Saam@21:1/5 to Richard D. Saam on Tue Aug 14 22:07:18 2018
    On 8/13/18 11:48 AM, Richard D. Saam wrote:
    The Eugene Parker Solar Probe has just launched
    to investigate close up solar magnetic and electric fields.
    In his book:
    "Conversations on Electric and Magnetic Fields in the Cosmos"
    Dr Parker notes:
    a SI charge non 'mass, length and time' definition as coulomb
    is a limitation for dimensional analysis of such EM problems.
    One wonders if his 'mass, length and time' analysis
    of such EM problems in cgs units system
    provided him with scientific reasoning in regards to solar EM fields
    deemed crazy by his peers at the time 50 years ago
    but which are currently accepted as true
    and the basis for his named solar probe.

    Richard D Saam

    [[Mod. note -- Actually, there's very little dimensional analysis in
    Parker's 1958 paper. That paper can be read online (open-access!) at
    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1958ApJ...128..664P
    -- jt]]

    Thanks for Parker's paper.
    His paper actually has a (mass(M), Length(L) Time(T)
    dimensional point of view:

    Dimensional
    energy m*v^2 and k*T M^1*L^2*T^-2
    gravitational force G*M*M/r^2
    M^1*L^1*T^-2 = (M^-1*L^3*T^-2)(M^2*L^0*T^0)(M^0*L^-2*T^0)
    thermal conductivity M^1*L^0*T^-3
    appear throughout his paper
    but consider the last equation (bottom of page 674)
    that describes the torque
    caused by spiraling waves from the sun's magnetic field (B)
    with the physically descriptive equation:

    Torque(M^1*L^2*T^-2) = force(M^1*L^1*T^-2)*distance(M^0*L^1*T^0) =(9/15)*b^4(M^0*L^1*T^0)^4*omega((M^0*L^0*T^-1)*(1/v)(M^0*L^-1*T^1)
    *B^2(M^1/2*L^-1/2*T^-1)^2*(1+b/r(M^0*L^0*T^0)

    This conceptually reduces to

    Torque ~ space volume containing magnetic field * magnetic field squared

    or

    Torque (in units of energy) = volume * energy/volume

    The magnetic field B definition as

    M^1/2*L^-1/2*T^-1

    makes everything dimensionally flow.

    Parker probably assumed the B and H field were equal (vacuum)
    having the same M^1/2*L^-1/2*T^-1 units
    where B = mu*H and permeability(mu) = 1

    Of course, this all can be done in SI
    with the Coulomb addition
    but my mind hurts to think
    how to make physical sense of it,
    the finer points to which Parker addressed in his book.

    One note:
    Parker's secretary left out the '/sec'
    after the angular velocity 2.7 x 10^-4
    at the top of page 674.

    Such a simple (and certainly not crazy)
    scientific pen and paper reasoning thing
    done by Parker
    in part resulting in the Solar Probe in his name.

    RDS

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