• library work: where is paper I?

    From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 30 21:35:39 2018
    The paper

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1965SvA.....8..854D

    @ARTICLE { VDashevskiiYZeldovich65a ,
    AUTHOR = "V. M. Dashevskii and Y. B. Zeldovich",
    TITLE = "Propagation of Light in a Nonhomogeneous
    Nonflat Universe .II.",
    JOURNAL = SVA,
    YEAR = "1965",
    VOLUME = "8",
    NUMBER = "6",
    PAGES = "854--856",
    MONTH = may # jun,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    is a translation of

    @ARTICLE { VDashevskiiYZeldovich65ao ,
    AUTHOR = "V. M. Dashevskii and Y. B. Zeldovich",
    TITLE = "",
    JOURNAL = "Astronomicheskii Zhurnal",
    YEAR = "1964",
    VOLUME = "41",
    NUMBER = "6",
    PAGES = "1071--1074",
    MONTH = nov # dec,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    Where is paper I? Usually papers with Roman numerals have otherwise
    identical titles. Perhaps paper I is

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1964SvA.....8...13Z

    @ARTICLE {YZeldovich64a,
    AUTHOR = "Y. B. Zel'dovich",
    TITLE = "Observations in a Universe Homogeneous in
    the Mean",
    JOURNAL = SVA,
    YEAR = "1964",
    VOLUME = "8",
    NUMBER = "1",
    PAGES = "13-16",
    MONTH = jul # aug,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    which is a translation of

    @ARTICLE { YZeldovich64ao ,
    AUTHOR = "Y. B. Zel'dovich",
    TITLE = "",
    JOURNAL = "Astronomicheskii Zhurnal",
    YEAR = "1964",
    VOLUME = "41",
    NUMBER = "1",
    PAGES = "19-24",
    MONTH = jan # feb,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    I would like to know the original titles of the Russian papers. Perhaps someone has access to them, or could even point me to an online
    version and/or send me a PDF file generated from a scan.

    Is the Zel'dovich paper actually paper I?

    While I'm at it, there is "paper III":

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1966SvA.....9..671D

    @ARTICLE { VDashevskiiVSlysh66a ,
    AUTHOR = "V. M. Dashevskii and V. J. Slysh",
    TITLE = "On the Propagation of Light in a
    Nonhomogeneous Universe",
    JOURNAL = SVA,
    YEAR = "1966",
    VOLUME = "9",
    NUMBER = "4",
    PAGES = "671--672",
    MONTH = jan # feb,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    which is a translation of

    @ARTICLE { VDashevskiiVSlysh66ao ,
    AUTHOR = "V. M. Dashevskii and V. J. Slysh",
    TITLE = "",
    JOURNAL = "Astronomicheskii Zhurnal",
    YEAR = "1965",
    VOLUME = "42",
    NUMBER = "4",
    PAGES = "863--864",
    MONTH = jul # aug,
    NOTE = ""
    }

    Again, perhaps someone can provide me with the original title and/or
    access to the paper.

    Unless there are obvious differences in length, my Russian is not good
    enough to determine how closely the translations follow the original.
    Since two of seven figures in the Zel'dovich paper are not mentioned in
    the text, perhaps the translations are condensed.

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  • From Dan Riley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 2 21:26:21 2019
    "Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)" <helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de>
    writes:
    The paper

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1965SvA.....8..854D

    starts out "The present paper is a continuation of [1]"

    where [1] is "Ya. B. Zel'dovich, Astron. Zh., 41, 19 (1964) [Soviet
    Astronomy - AJ, Vol. 8, p. 13", so I'd conclude that is paper I.

    -dan

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  • From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)@21:1/5 to dan131riley@gmail.com on Wed Jan 2 21:35:49 2019
    In article <shd0pff7e7.fsf@lnx231.classe.cornell.edu>, Dan Riley <dan131riley@gmail.com> writes:

    "Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)" <helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de>
    writes:
    The paper

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1965SvA.....8..854D

    starts out "The present paper is a continuation of [1]"

    where [1] is "Ya. B. Zel'dovich, Astron. Zh., 41, 19 (1964) [Soviet
    Astronomy - AJ, Vol. 8, p. 13", so I'd conclude that is paper I.

    Yes. It is clear that the three form a series. Still, when a paper has
    "II" in the title, there is usually a previous paper with essentially
    the same title but with "I" instead of "II". I thought that perhaps
    the titles had been changed in translation, but that doesn't seem to be
    the case. Paper I doesn't mention figs. 3 and 4 in the text. Thanks to
    some friendly help, I now have the originals and will check whether
    those figures are mentioned in the text. Perhaps this is missing in the translation, perhaps other stuff is missing. (Things are usually lost
    in translation. In this case, something was found in translation: Paper
    II, in the original, has a wrong page number in the reference to Paper
    I, which is correct in the translation (which cites both the original
    and translation of Paper I).)

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  • From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply@21:1/5 to helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de on Thu Jan 3 20:36:26 2019
    In article <q0jams$18un$1@gioia.aioe.org>, "Phillip Helbig (undress to
    reply)" <helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de> writes:

    In article <shd0pff7e7.fsf@lnx231.classe.cornell.edu>, Dan Riley <dan131riley@gmail.com> writes:

    "Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)" <helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de> writes:
    The paper

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1965SvA.....8..854D

    starts out "The present paper is a continuation of [1]"

    where [1] is "Ya. B. Zel'dovich, Astron. Zh., 41, 19 (1964) [Soviet Astronomy - AJ, Vol. 8, p. 13", so I'd conclude that is paper I.

    Yes. It is clear that the three form a series.

    Can anyone here reproduce TABLE 1 from the Dashevskii & Slysh paper
    (link above)? In particular, there are two numbers in the table which
    seem off by 1 or 2 least-significant digits. One case is relatively
    easy to check, the other less so.

    Also, what is the last column? In modern notation, rows are for the
    redshift of the maximum in the angular-size distance for eta=1 (standard distance, i.e. completely homogeneous universe) (note that Delta = 1 -
    1/(1+z) or, alternatively, z = 1/(1 - Delta) - 1), the value of the angular-size distance (in units of the Hubble length) at the maximum,
    and the value of the angular-size distance for eta=0 ("Dyer-Roeder" or
    "ZKDR" distance, i.e. completely empty beam between observer and
    observed). The columns are for various values of Omega. The last one
    is for infinite Omega, i.e. presumably the limit of the corresponding
    function for large Omega. However, in the second and third rows for
    this column, Omega itself appears. How can the value for infinite Omega
    depend on Omega? Maybe it means an approximation for large Omega? But
    that doesn't seem to make sense, since it is clear that both quantities decrease with increasing Omega (as can be seen from the table, and also analytically), but the formula for Omega = 10 gives values which are
    larger than those in the table for Omega = 10.

    Maybe one or both cases are misprints. (The numbers are the same in the original as in the translation.)

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