• Moonfall movie

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 13 21:11:42 2021
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

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  • From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Nov 13 22:22:53 2021
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:11:44 AM UTC, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi


    That is lovely including the 'dark side of the moon'. I like a good science fantasy movie while a rotating moon in addition to its monthly orbit is also science fantasy. May as well believe the moon is hollow and occupied by aliens than believe it is
    made of cheese and that it rotates, after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Nov 14 01:00:58 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 9:11:44 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

    I've seen the movie Dune, lucky me it was free on Kodi, wasted 2.5 hrs of my life.
    Towered the fall in sleep!
    Too old for this sh**!

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 14 00:54:36 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 10:22:55 PM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:11:44 AM UTC, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi
    That is lovely including the 'dark side of the moon'. I like a good science fantasy movie while a rotating moon in addition to its monthly orbit is also science fantasy. May as well believe the moon is hollow and occupied by aliens than believe it is
    made of cheese and that it rotates, after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    Movie is rated PG 5 and for above 18 is not recommended for loosing brain cells and early dementia!
    Get it?

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Nov 14 01:02:53 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 9:11:44 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

    I've seen the movie Dune, lucky me it was free on Kodi, wasted 2.5 hrs of my life.
    Towered the end fall in sleep!
    Too old for this sh**!

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 14 03:07:13 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    It is an indisputable fact that one side of the Moon always faces the Earth.

    But it's also a fact that the Moon... wiggles a little. This is called "libration".

    Why does it wiggle? It turns out if you look at the Moon in relation to the stars, the stellar
    circumpolar motion from the viewpoint of the surface of the Moon has a period of about
    24 days - and is perfectly regular when timed by a mechanical clock.

    *That* is why it is suggested that the Moon has a rotational motion of its own, rather than
    one resulting from its orbit. This is what every professional astronomer in the world believes
    to be the case, strange as that may seem to you.

    John Savard

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Nov 14 03:03:29 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 9:11:44 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.

    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

    Moonfall probably is in the same category as the other silly movie Gravity (2013)?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prlIhY3e04k

    Sandra Bullock jumping into one space suit to another in 2 min or jumping from one satellite to another through space with the aide of a fire extinguisher or figuring out how a Chines satellite work from Chines manual, when she can't speak or read Chines?
    God, it hurts!
    Hahaha!

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  • From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sun Nov 14 05:26:24 2021
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 11:07:14 AM UTC, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.
    It is an indisputable fact that one side of the Moon always faces the Earth.

    But it's also a fact that the Moon... wiggles a little. This is called "libration".

    Why does it wiggle? It turns out if you look at the Moon in relation to the stars, the stellar
    circumpolar motion from the viewpoint of the surface of the Moon has a period of about
    24 days - and is perfectly regular when timed by a mechanical clock.

    *That* is why it is suggested that the Moon has a rotational motion of its own, rather than
    one resulting from its orbit. This is what every professional astronomer in the world believes
    to be the case, strange as that may seem to you.

    John Savard


    You are a science fantasy guy in all respects of your existence so get none from me. I will go out of my way to explain things at your vacuous level in terms of science fantasy.

    The Death star visits the Earth and goes into orbit beside the moon (something like this)-

    https://miro.medium.com/max/575/1*nUxm5MD_2xO5Y9LorrV8FQ.jpeg

    The panicked population of the world look to NASA and after throwing out multiple suggestions, a physicist arrives in with a single page of paper. They send a dialogue to the aliens that they also must rotate their spaceship when travelling with the moon.

    The aliens think humans are so mad that they leave the solar system immediately.

    For reasonable people with an interest in solar system research and even the relationship between larger rotating objects and smaller ones, Kepler makes a good point-

    "The Sun and the Earth rotate on their own axes...The purpose of this
    motion is to confer motion on the planets located around them;on the
    six primary planets in the case of the Sun, and on the moon in the case
    of the Earth. On the other hand the moon does not rotate on the axis of
    its own body, as its spots prove " Kepler

    I simply can't imagine living a life and wasting perceptive faculties for the sake of one late 17th century bluffer like Sir Isaac.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 14 08:33:31 2021
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:26:26 AM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    For reasonable people with an interest in solar system research
    and even the relationship between larger rotating objects and
    smaller ones, Kepler makes a good point-

    "The Sun and the Earth rotate on their own axes...The purpose of this
    motion is to confer motion on the planets located around them;on the
    six primary planets in the case of the Sun, and on the moon in the case
    of the Earth. On the other hand the moon does not rotate on the axis of
    its own body, as its spots prove " Kepler

    I simply can't imagine living a life and wasting perceptive faculties
    for the sake of one late 17th century bluffer like Sir Isaac.

    Kepler's mistake of viewing the Moon as not rotating, the way a naive layperson might, was pardonable - as he came along *before* Isaac Newton.

    But Isaac Newton put things like rotational motion on a rational scientific basis.
    Thus, we *must* view rotational motion as relative to the sidereal frame, and not
    to any _rotating_ frame, such as that of the Moon's orbital motion around the Earth, because centrifugal force on the Moon's surface due to its rotation is determined by the magnitude of its rotation _within the sidereal frame_.

    This is what we learned from Isaac Newton, and this is what _you_ should have learned in science class either in junior high school (grades 7 through 9) or at
    least high school (grades 10 through 12), had you been paying attention.

    And, as I previously pointed out, the Moon's libration also shows that the Moon's
    sidereal rotation is uniform and constant, because it corresponds to the inequalities
    in its orbital motion.

    Isaac Newton was no "bluffer". The system of mechanics with which he endowed the world still serves today as the basis on which both the physical sciences and
    the art of engineering rest. The honor and acclaim he has recieved world-wide for
    this contribution are well-deserved.

    In trying to set yourself up against this, you are making of yourself an object of
    ridicule. Like Don Quixote, you fail to see things as they are, and so you tilt at
    Newton's windmills of truth, thinking falsely that they are dragons menacing the
    countryside with deception and confusion.

    John Savard

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 14 09:14:39 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 10:22:55 PM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:11:44 AM UTC, RichA wrote:
    Remember when U.S. had the Shuttle? Then they didn't...In any case, the movie will probably be ridiculous but with good effects.


    https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/172095688

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi385139481?playlistId=tt5834426&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi
    That is lovely including the 'dark side of the moon'. I like a good science fantasy movie while a rotating moon in addition to its monthly orbit is also science fantasy. May as well believe the moon is hollow and occupied by aliens than believe it is
    made of cheese and that it rotates, after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    If you happened to reside on the moon you would experience sunrise and sunset, a clear indication that the moon rotates.

    EVERYTHING rotates wrt to something!

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to jsavard@ecn.ab.ca on Sun Nov 14 10:26:52 2021
    On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:07:13 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
    <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    It is an indisputable fact that one side of the Moon always faces the Earth.

    But it's also a fact that the Moon... wiggles a little. This is called "libration".

    Why does it wiggle? It turns out if you look at the Moon in relation to the stars, the stellar
    circumpolar motion from the viewpoint of the surface of the Moon has a period of about
    24 days - and is perfectly regular when timed by a mechanical clock.

    *That* is why it is suggested that the Moon has a rotational motion of its own, rather than
    one resulting from its orbit. This is what every professional astronomer in the world believes
    to be the case, strange as that may seem to you.

    It is interesting to consider what would happen to the Moon if the
    Earth simply disappeared. Answer: not much. It would continue in very
    close to its current orbit around the Sun, and would continue to
    rotate on its axis, resulting in the same length day it currently has.

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  • From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 14 11:46:15 2021
    I hope the few English contingent left in this newsgroup are happy with what they unleashed on solar system research and Earth sciences.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Sun Nov 14 19:29:03 2021
    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 9:26:55 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:07:13 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
    <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    It is an indisputable fact that one side of the Moon always faces the Earth.

    But it's also a fact that the Moon... wiggles a little. This is called "libration".

    Why does it wiggle? It turns out if you look at the Moon in relation to the stars, the stellar
    circumpolar motion from the viewpoint of the surface of the Moon has a period of about
    24 days - and is perfectly regular when timed by a mechanical clock.

    *That* is why it is suggested that the Moon has a rotational motion of its own, rather than
    one resulting from its orbit. This is what every professional astronomer in the world believes
    to be the case, strange as that may seem to you.
    It is interesting to consider what would happen to the Moon if the
    Earth simply disappeared. Answer: not much. It would continue in very
    close to its current orbit around the Sun, and would continue to
    rotate on its axis, resulting in the same length day it currently has.

    I think, it would become an asteroid, flying through space, into the unknown?

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 15 08:12:31 2021
    On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 19:29:03 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 9:26:55 AM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:07:13 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
    <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    after all, only one man in the entire history of humanity suggested the moon rotates.

    It is an indisputable fact that one side of the Moon always faces the Earth.

    But it's also a fact that the Moon... wiggles a little. This is called "libration".

    Why does it wiggle? It turns out if you look at the Moon in relation to the stars, the stellar
    circumpolar motion from the viewpoint of the surface of the Moon has a period of about
    24 days - and is perfectly regular when timed by a mechanical clock.

    *That* is why it is suggested that the Moon has a rotational motion of its own, rather than
    one resulting from its orbit. This is what every professional astronomer in the world believes
    to be the case, strange as that may seem to you.
    It is interesting to consider what would happen to the Moon if the
    Earth simply disappeared. Answer: not much. It would continue in very
    close to its current orbit around the Sun, and would continue to
    rotate on its axis, resulting in the same length day it currently has.

    I think, it would become an asteroid, flying through space, into the unknown? \
    Most certainly not. Its primary orbit is around the Sun, with its
    orbit very slightly scalloped by the perturbation of the Earth. If the
    Earth disappeared, the Moon would continue in its current orbit, which
    is nearly identical to Earth's orbit.

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  • From The Therapist@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Mon Nov 15 16:24:30 2021
    On 11/14/21 8:26 AM, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:


    You are a science fantasy guy in all respects of your existence so get none from me. I will go out of my way to explain things at your vacuous level in terms of science fantasy.

    The Death star visits the Earth and goes into orbit beside the moon (something like this)-

    https://miro.medium.com/max/575/1*nUxm5MD_2xO5Y9LorrV8FQ.jpeg

    The panicked population of the world look to NASA and after throwing out multiple suggestions, a physicist arrives in with a single page of paper. They send a dialogue to the aliens that they also must rotate their spaceship when travelling with the
    moon.

    The aliens think humans are so mad that they leave the solar system immediately.

    For reasonable people with an interest in solar system research and even the relationship between larger rotating objects and smaller ones, Kepler makes a good point-

    "The Sun and the Earth rotate on their own axes...The purpose of this
    motion is to confer motion on the planets located around them;on the
    six primary planets in the case of the Sun, and on the moon in the case
    of the Earth. On the other hand the moon does not rotate on the axis of
    its own body, as its spots prove " Kepler

    I simply can't imagine living a life and wasting perceptive faculties for the sake of one late 17th century bluffer like Sir Isaac.



    A good therapist could also become your good friend.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?fred__k._engels=C2=AE?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 24 15:11:08 2021
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBe4u6Vd0N0

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 24 18:31:05 2021
    On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 3:11:14 PM UTC-8, fred k. engelsĀ® wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBe4u6Vd0N0

    Best movie!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_ribC3cG4

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