On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 10:37:51 -0500, Jake M <mill45@fla.net> wrote:

You're off course. Your posting was supposed to end on 2024-02-20. Why
do you continue posting your irrelevant, incorrect material?

hmm . . . julian day 2460361.39940:

Path: news...net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: kelleher.gerald@gmail.com (oriel36)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Farewell to the newsgroup
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:35:08 +0000
Message-ID: <ee8723f7b86c4dfb6e18f82239cb664f@www.novabbs.com>

There is no sense in making a noisy exit

"farewell to the newsgroup" does sound definitive . . . cry for help?

oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com>
"oriel36" <geraldkelleher@yahoo.com>
TheOvavas <oriel@eui.com>
geraldkelleher@hotmail.com (Oriel36)

afaict, posts with "oriel36" in the from header appear in sci.astro.*
at least back to 2003; so if he was using dejanews before that could
be he's a real old-timer and/or using a psyops sock puppet character
for the usual obfuscation clutter that's plagued newsgroups from day
one and given the content of his posts suffice to presume the latter

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 16:06:16 +0000, kelleher.gerald@gmail.com
(oriel36) wrote:

There are also hard people here who have lost the connection with their life and the Life of the Universe.

Your unusual conclusions about the rotations of celestial bodies are
not a requirement for such a connection.

These people have lost the power to respond as Google Groups is now frozen in time as the main gateway to the Usenet. I condemn nobody when people condemn themselves.

Just as someone claimed you would never be able to post here now that
Google Groups was no longer available as a means to do so, this
report, like a premature one of the passing of Samuel Clemens, is an exaggeration.

John Savard

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On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 14:26:58 -0700, John Savard
<quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:

Dang, after once successfully locating the title of the book about a
man who travels the world to study the global agricultural supply
chain to anser his daughter's question, "Why do people have to pay for
food" (her name begins with an A) I can't find it again.

I could have badly misremembered the fiction novel "In the Eyes of
Anahita", by Hugo Borjean.

John Savard

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 18:23:50 +0000, kelleher.gerald@gmail.com (oriel36)
wrote:

The Universe provides everything for free, including the air, land and water. It gives the Moon, planets and stars, including our own parent star.

Only people look for a fee when everything is free to enjoy.

Given

a) that the land area of the Earth is finite, and
b) that the current human population of the Earth far exceeds that
which could be fed by hunting and gathering, requiring people to
resort to _agriculture_

I am not going to blame farmers, truck drivers, or supermarket owners,
among other people, for the fact that when I go to the supermarket to
buy groceries, I have to pay for them.

Dang, after once successfully locating the title of the book about a
man who travels the world to study the global agricultural supply
chain to anser his daughter's question, "Why do people have to pay for
food" (her name begins with an A) I can't find it again.

And then there's

And another thing you’ll never see –
A monk build a fence round a coconut tree,
Forbidding all other monks to taste
And letting the coconuts go to waste.
Why! if I built a fence round a coconut tree
Starvation would force you to steal from me.

from "A Monkey's Disgrace", a piece of Creationist doggerel.

John Savard

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On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 14:34:24 -0700, John Savard
<quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 14:26:58 -0700, John Savard ><quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:

Dang, after once successfully locating the title of the book about a
man who travels the world to study the global agricultural supply
chain to anser his daughter's question, "Why do people have to pay for >>food" (her name begins with an A) I can't find it again.

I could have badly misremembered the fiction novel "In the Eyes of
Anahita", by Hugo Borjean.

I've now confirmed that, as one blurb for that book begins

Dad, why do people have to pay for food? This question, posed by a seven-year-old child, started one man's incredible adventure in South
America.

...the book is a work of fiction, but the aim is to promote "conscious decision-making" by people in their working lives.

John Savard

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