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  • Physicist: "Cell-phone addicted zombies."

    From Rich@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 18:32:03 2023
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 22:23:39 2023
    On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

    But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
    old navigation methods, which so often failed.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Rich on Thu Nov 30 00:03:22 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-8, Rich wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

    Aeroplane pilots have to Learn the stars and use it for navigation, even though they have a hole array of electronics available for navigation on a modern aeroplane.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Nov 30 00:26:07 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:23:45 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:32:03 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

    But they're alive... unlike an awful lot of those who practiced those
    old navigation methods, which so often failed.

    I think, it's good to know old navigation methods, bc electronics, mobil phones can fail.
    Even the military's basic training teach how to use maps, compass etc... to new recruits.
    Even in every day life, it happens, people get hurt or die, bc gets lost in the mountain or forest during hiking.
    I read a story, family was driving in heavy snow, fog, zero visibility, when grandpa had a nature call.
    They pulled over, out in nowhere, grandpa jumped out to do his business, but never returned.
    He had a mobile phone, but he left it in the car.
    He was found dead, frozen 2 days later, after the weather cleared.
    He never found his way back to the car, he was walking in circles till his end. 2-3 years ago, studied navigation on my own, even bought a US military compass. It's very accurate, it lights without battery and no fluid inside, which can freeze.
    Add a good map and one can navigate anywhere in the world, without GPS, just using map coordinates.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 30 07:56:16 2023
    On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:03:22 -0800 (PST), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:32:05?PM UTC-8, Rich wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231128-what-we-can-learn-from-the-ancient-art-of-wayfinding

    Aeroplane pilots have to Learn the stars and use it for navigation, even though they have a hole array of electronics available for navigation on a modern aeroplane.

    Nothing wrong with that. I hike and ride in the deep wilderness, and
    there is no better navigation tool than GPS for that, on many fronts.
    Which doesn't mean I don't have a good sense of where I am from other
    factors, as well. It doesn't mean I don't have a map and compass. It
    doesn't mean I can't use the stars and the position of the Sun and
    landscape features.

    People who want to navigate the open ocean using old methods are fools
    if they don't have a GPS receiver onboard as backup... just as those
    who place all their trust in a GPS receiver at the expense of common
    sense are fools.

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