• India landed moon probe for $70M. No need for 500 U.S. PhD's to do it.

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 18:08:55 2023
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 20:30:56 2023
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:08:55 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.

    Sick bastard.

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  • From AB@21:1/5 to RichA on Mon Aug 28 07:27:38 2023
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.

    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Mon Aug 28 17:55:14 2023
    On Sunday, 27 August 2023 at 22:31:02 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:08:55 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Sick bastard.


    Crawl back to your bar.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 17:57:48 2023
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 19:35:13 2023
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.

    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had
    to develop. Nasa developed it.

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  • From AB@21:1/5 to RichA on Mon Aug 28 21:51:18 2023
    On 8/28/23 8:57 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.


    I never guess on costs because of the probable negativity and
    misinformation of such a practice. Should I do my homework, I might
    then state my opinion about something, but not before I have some facts.

    Every post you've made in this thread has been misinformative, negative,
    and irrelevant.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Mon Aug 28 20:22:51 2023
    On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 6:08:57 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.

    Crazy Kennedy spend $7.5 billion to land man on the Moon the first time! 😱😨

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Mon Aug 28 20:18:34 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:35:18 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing. >> Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a >> strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such >> strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth, >> and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is >> bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there >> is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might >> occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.
    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had
    to develop. Nasa developed it.

    So, NASA just handed it over to the Indians?
    US landed on the Moon first time because the NAZI scientist Von Braun.
    He was the head of the Apollo program back in the 60s.

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  • From AB@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Aug 29 10:05:03 2023
    On 8/28/23 8:57 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.


    Sorry, I'm in the wrong forum here, have been for several days. Did not realize that you were NOT the Rich I've been referring to. I need to
    start wearing my glasses since I hate contacts so I can see what I'm doing.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 09:33:15 2023
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:18:34 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:35:18?PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing. >> >> Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a >> >> strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such >> >> strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth, >> >> and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is >> >> bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there >> >> is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might >> >> occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.
    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had
    to develop. Nasa developed it.

    So, NASA just handed it over to the Indians?
    US landed on the Moon first time because the NAZI scientist Von Braun.
    He was the head of the Apollo program back in the 60s.

    Von Braun provided a good deal of design. But the technology was
    developed by Nasa at American taxpayer expense. Very little of it was
    secret or proprietary, which is why most of the rocket technology that
    exists today, as used by every country, rests heavily on Nasa's work.
    Nothing wrong with that, no "stealing" involved.

    Absent all that existing technology, it would have cost India billions
    of dollars (and decades of time) to mount a mission to the Moon.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Aug 29 13:13:12 2023
    On Sunday, 27 August 2023 at 21:08:57 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.

    Estimate cost of NASA's probe will be around $500 million to launch and deploy. That's allowing for the usual cost overruns which NASA almost always has.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-india-moon-landing-cost-cheap-compared-to-nasa-russia-2023-8

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 16:28:25 2023
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 8:33:22 AM UTC-7, >
    wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:35:18?PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that >> >> you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with >> >> that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5 >> >> billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that >> >> I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have >> >> ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior. >> >
    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.
    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had
    to develop. Nasa developed it.

    So, NASA just handed it over to the Indians?
    US landed on the Moon first time because the NAZI scientist Von Braun.
    He was the head of the Apollo program back in the 60s.
    Von Braun provided a good deal of design. But the technology was
    developed by Nasa at American taxpayer expense. Very little of it was
    secret or proprietary, which is why most of the rocket technology that exists today, as used by every country, rests heavily on Nasa's work. Nothing wrong with that, no "stealing" involved.

    Absent all that existing technology, it would have cost India billions
    of dollars (and decades of time) to mount a mission to the Moon.

    It wasn't Von Braun alone, but a hole German rocket scientist team brought in under Paperclip!
    Russia after the war took 4000 German scientists and their family, anyone who worked close to rockets.
    They built Star City in Russia!
    US Senator and Astronaut John Glen said -
    Soviets got ahead of us in space, because they had more of the German rocket scientist than the US!

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/dfu00bloiyR7J9zo3PU86CegCQuBhzTAAtLlwdQ7cIE/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxv/YWQud2lraW1lZGlh/Lm9yZy93aWtpcGVk/aWEvY29tbW9ucy84/Lzg5L0tlbm5lZHlf/dm9uYnJhdW5fMTlt/YXk2M18wMi5qcGc

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 18:16:05 2023
    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:28:25 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 8:33:22?AM UTC-7, >
    wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:35:18?PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that >> >> >> you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with >> >> >> that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5 >> >> >> billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that >> >> >> I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have >> >> >> ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate
    again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I
    KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior. >> >> >
    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.
    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had
    to develop. Nasa developed it.

    So, NASA just handed it over to the Indians?
    US landed on the Moon first time because the NAZI scientist Von Braun.
    He was the head of the Apollo program back in the 60s.
    Von Braun provided a good deal of design. But the technology was
    developed by Nasa at American taxpayer expense. Very little of it was
    secret or proprietary, which is why most of the rocket technology that
    exists today, as used by every country, rests heavily on Nasa's work.
    Nothing wrong with that, no "stealing" involved.

    Absent all that existing technology, it would have cost India billions
    of dollars (and decades of time) to mount a mission to the Moon.

    It wasn't Von Braun alone, but a hole German rocket scientist team brought in under Paperclip!
    Russia after the war took 4000 German scientists and their family, anyone who worked close to rockets.
    They built Star City in Russia!
    US Senator and Astronaut John Glen said -
    Soviets got ahead of us in space, because they had more of the German rocket scientist than the US!

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/dfu00bloiyR7J9zo3PU86CegCQuBhzTAAtLlwdQ7cIE/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxv/YWQud2lraW1lZGlh/Lm9yZy93aWtpcGVk/aWEvY29tbW9ucy84/Lzg5L0tlbm5lZHlf/dm9uYnJhdW5fMTlt/YXk2M18wMi5qcGc

    But it is American technology that the world uses in their rockets.
    Not Russian.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Tue Aug 29 18:51:15 2023
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:16:14 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:28:25 -0700 (PDT),

    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 8:33:22?AM UTC-7, >
    wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:35:18?PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:27:43 UTC-4, AB wrote:
    On 8/27/23 9:08 PM, RichA wrote:
    Nor the $1.5 billion the U.S. would have costed to do the same thing.
    Your sentence contains a verb tense error for starters. I can see that
    you would never even be considered for work in such an endeavor with
    that glaring mistake.

    Second, where is your evidence demonstrating that it would cost "1.5
    billion" for the US to perform the same task? My opinion would be that
    I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near that amount. And this is a
    strong statement based in part on costs for past probes.

    It always amazes me when someone not even residing in the US makes such
    strong statements and opinions based on absolutely no evidence or truth,
    and actually chooses to continue to live in ignorance. If "ignorance is
    bliss" it sure applies here although in the most negative way I have
    ever witnessed.

    As others have basically told you many times, I will also reiterate >> >> >> again: educate yourself before making rash, unproven statements. I >> >> >> KNOW this will most likely fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes), but there
    is always the extremely remote possibility that beneficial change might
    occur that would halt this eternal pessimistically aberrant behavior.

    NASA launches a rocket, lands on the moon, deploys a rover. TELL us the cost you think it would be. Then when you say something
    like $200M, I'll laugh out loud. NASA missions cost more than any other country's space missions.
    The majority of India's mission relies upon technology they never had >> >> to develop. Nasa developed it.

    So, NASA just handed it over to the Indians?
    US landed on the Moon first time because the NAZI scientist Von Braun. >> >He was the head of the Apollo program back in the 60s.
    Von Braun provided a good deal of design. But the technology was
    developed by Nasa at American taxpayer expense. Very little of it was
    secret or proprietary, which is why most of the rocket technology that
    exists today, as used by every country, rests heavily on Nasa's work.
    Nothing wrong with that, no "stealing" involved.

    Absent all that existing technology, it would have cost India billions
    of dollars (and decades of time) to mount a mission to the Moon.

    It wasn't Von Braun alone, but a hole German rocket scientist team brought in under Paperclip!
    Russia after the war took 4000 German scientists and their family, anyone who worked close to rockets.
    They built Star City in Russia!
    US Senator and Astronaut John Glen said -
    Soviets got ahead of us in space, because they had more of the German rocket scientist than the US!

    https://imgs.search.brave.com/dfu00bloiyR7J9zo3PU86CegCQuBhzTAAtLlwdQ7cIE/rs:fit:860:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly91cGxv/YWQud2lraW1lZGlh/Lm9yZy93aWtpcGVk/aWEvY29tbW9ucy84/Lzg5L0tlbm5lZHlf/dm9uYnJhdW5fMTlt/YXk2M18wMi5qcGc
    But it is American technology that the world uses in their rockets.
    Not Russian.

    Technology transfer between countries always happens, often it's part of a business deals, like I give you 3 pigs for a cow!
    Our co. back in the 90s was penalized for illegal technology transfer to China! Why do you think Trump took those documents from the WH to his home?

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