• Planetary climate and geographical climate

    From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 26 01:17:39 2021
    I live on an island in the Eastern Atlantic so experience a lot of weather in from the ocean, whereas other locations at the same latitude experience more extreme variations due to a continental climate as opposed to a maritime climate.

    Geographical climate is an area of research responsible for ice ages and warm periods so although nobody knows what causes these variations, whether internal or external, they cover a vast area of research.

    Planetary climate is far less complicated as it represents the rate of change in surface conditions as a planet orbits the Sun and therefore can be compared with other planets-

    https://calgary.rasc.ca/images/planet_inclinations.gif

    This is where modelling should be valuable insofar as assigning different inclinations to the Earth in respect to the orbital plane/Sun, the rate of change in atmospheric, ocean and surface conditions change. Specifically, any change inclination changes
    the circumference of the Arctic and Antarctic circles by this comparative approach.

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  • From Mike Collins@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Thu Nov 4 08:40:27 2021
    On Tuesday, 26 October 2021 at 09:17:40 UTC+1, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    I live on an island in the Eastern Atlantic so experience a lot of weather in from the ocean, whereas other locations at the same latitude experience more extreme variations due to a continental climate as opposed to a maritime climate.

    Geographical climate is an area of research responsible for ice ages and warm periods so although nobody knows what causes these variations, whether internal or external, they cover a vast area of research.

    Planetary climate is far less complicated as it represents the rate of change in surface conditions as a planet orbits the Sun and therefore can be compared with other planets-

    https://calgary.rasc.ca/images/planet_inclinations.gif

    This is where modelling should be valuable insofar as assigning different inclinations to the Earth in respect to the orbital plane/Sun, the rate of change in atmospheric, ocean and surface conditions change. Specifically, any change inclination
    changes the circumference of the Arctic and Antarctic circles by this comparative approach.

    See what the big oil companies Kew about climate change and what they’ve been doing to suppress that knowledge.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2021/11/03/what-big-oil-knew-about-climate-change-in-its-own-words/

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  • From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Fri Nov 5 03:13:51 2021
    On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 3:40:30 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

    See what the big oil companies Kew about climate change and what they’ve been doing to suppress that knowledge.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2021/11/03/what-big-oil-knew-about-climate-change-in-its-own-words/

    In the post-industrial era, carbon dioxide becomes a thermostat linked to a 1.5 C target, limit or rise due to human activity. In the pre-industrial era, it becomes an indefinite limit with no base planetary temperature by which the temperature rise is
    relative to.

    Prior to the hysteria, geographical climate was considered by location and latitude so Ireland's and Britain's proximity to the Atlantic ocean and our latitude gives us a relatively mild climate with few of the extremes suffered by locations which have a
    continental climate at the same latitude. All this got sidelined by a crude attempt to model climate like short term weather even when models/opinions fall apart after a week or so.

    What also got sidelined was common sense for people expect their politicians to be astute and not led by modelling indulgences. People who step back and inspect the basis of modelling from the outside rather than being driven by convictions of empirical
    modelling will arrive at a balanced approach

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