• Argument for buying only the very best telescopes

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 22:52:42 2023
    A guy on Cloudynights did a report on his new Askar 6 inch scope. Based on his report and some images he posted (preliminary) it seems like an outstanding telescope. It's a six inch refractor with a quadruple lens system.
    It costs almost $6000 which puts it in the mid-high end of the refractor arena, the high end scopes like Takahashi, AP, TEC, CFF going for well over $10000 in the same size (though AP no longer makes six inch scopes).
    But what I found interesting is the need for the review to think they had to have a Feathertouch focus as a $1000 upgrade. Even though though the Feathertouch is expensive, you can spend $4000 on a fully-motorized focuser as well. The reason I found it
    interesting is the scope itself has a completely functional, robust focuser that comes with it, apparently not lacking, yet the buyer still feels a need to replace it. Is it needed, or are we just spoiled when it comes to focusers? Not long ago, a
    single speed unit was on all scopes, the best there was was TeleVue's in-terms of smoothness which is needed with high performance scopes that snap into focus. It seems like apart from the lens whose design and quality can always benefit the user by
    being better, much of the scope not lens-related is overkill today. AP's fully-machined tubes are an example. Overkill in a functional sense, but not aesthetic sense.

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  • From AB@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Jul 23 04:35:11 2023
    On 7/23/23 1:52 AM, RichA wrote:
    A guy on Cloudynights did a report on his new Askar 6 inch scope. Based on his report and some images he posted (preliminary) it seems like an outstanding telescope. It's a six inch refractor with a quadruple lens system.
    It costs almost $6000 which puts it in the mid-high end of the refractor arena, the high end scopes like Takahashi, AP, TEC, CFF going for well over $10000 in the same size (though AP no longer makes six inch scopes).
    But what I found interesting is the need for the review to think they had to have a Feathertouch focus as a $1000 upgrade. Even though though the Feathertouch is expensive, you can spend $4000 on a fully-motorized focuser as well. The reason I found
    it interesting is the scope itself has a completely functional, robust focuser that comes with it, apparently not lacking, yet the buyer still feels a need to replace it. Is it needed, or are we just spoiled when it comes to focusers? Not long ago, a
    single speed unit was on all scopes, the best there was was TeleVue's in-terms of smoothness which is needed with high performance scopes that snap into focus. It seems like apart from the lens whose design and quality can always benefit the user by
    being better, much of the scope not lens-related is overkill today. AP's fully-machined tubes are an example. Overkill in a functional sense, but not aesthetic sense.

    And when the worldwide economy soon collapses and a barter system is in
    place, a luxury item like this will be the first to go... or stay
    because how useful would it be under those circumstances? Let me know
    if it works out trading that scope for food or clothing.

    Better enjoy it while you can. $ will be worth nothing soon. Certain countries could be taking steps to avoid it, but refuse to as they
    continue to be driven by corruption, selfishness, and greed. Collapse
    is imminent.

    All items of digitization will be useless and inactive as there will be
    no way to pay for these luxuries. Goodbye cell and smart phones,
    internet, etc etc.

    People worry about global warming adversely affecting climate, but the
    collapse will solve it. When people are fighting for even one gallon of gasoline, the planet will begin its recovery process. Yes, you'll have
    to walk to the neighbor's house or the closest bartering facility. With
    any luck, you'll live close enough to make walking a non-issue. Trading
    for a horse might help for those greater distances, that is, if you can
    keep the horse from being stolen.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Jul 23 02:28:10 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:52:44 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:

    It costs almost $6000 which puts it in the mid-high end of the refractor arena, .....

    The old saying:

    "Fast, good, cheap. Pick any two."

    The laws of diminishing returns start to kick in too.

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