• Celestron binoculars, any good?

    From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 17:51:51 2023
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to StarDust on Tue Jul 11 17:53:59 2023
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:51:54 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    https://www.space.com/celestron-skymaster-25x100-binoculars-deal-amazon-prime-day-half-price

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  • From W@21:1/5 to StarDust on Wed Jul 12 05:16:48 2023
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:54 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    Once a bino gets beyond some size and magnification, a small telescope starts to look like a much better choice.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 17:41:46 2023
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:16:50 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:54 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.
    Once a bino gets beyond some size and magnification, a small telescope starts to look like a much better choice.

    Correct!
    Use to own a 70 mm bino, for a few years , very usable, can be hand held easy. Now I just have a 10x50 bino, Nikon Made in Japan.
    Very nice and versatile, it has good 3D effect too daytime.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to StarDust on Wed Jul 12 18:50:46 2023
    On Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 20:51:54 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    I tried a pair of 70mm's. Worst binoculars I've ever used.

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  • From Saunderlin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 13 01:48:55 2023
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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Saunderlin on Wed Jul 12 23:25:06 2023
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:50:16 PM UTC-7, Saunderlin wrote:
    On 7/12/23 9:50 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 20:51:54 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    I tried a pair of 70mm's. Worst binoculars I've ever used.
    Judging by his posts in this group, I wonder what, if anything, RichA actually DOES like?

    RichA only tolerate Swarovski, Zeiss binoculars minimum!
    😫😪

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to StarDust on Thu Jul 13 16:37:07 2023
    On 13/07/2023 07:25, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:50:16 PM UTC-7, Saunderlin wrote:
    On 7/12/23 9:50 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 20:51:54 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    I tried a pair of 70mm's. Worst binoculars I've ever used.
    Judging by his posts in this group, I wonder what, if anything, RichA
    actually DOES like?

    NO reason why they shouldn't be any good. My 16x80's aren't at all bad
    but are now limited by my exit pupil rather than the front lens
    aperture. I'd be better off with 16x70 's now lighter weight.

    At 20x magnification you *will* need a tripod stand for them.

    RichA only tolerate Swarovski, Zeiss binoculars minimum!
    😫😪

    Even for those he will bleat that they are not as good as they used to
    be. Perhaps Takahashi do something that he would find acceptable.

    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Saunderlin on Thu Jul 13 12:06:50 2023
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 1:50:16 AM UTC-4, Saunderlin wrote:
    On 7/12/23 9:50 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 20:51:54 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.

    I tried a pair of 70mm's. Worst binoculars I've ever used.
    Judging by his posts in this group, I wonder what, if anything, RichA actually DOES like?

    He probably doesn't recognize a good value when he sees one.
    Maybe his 70mm bino was misaligned or not as solid as he would have wanted.
    He didn't tell us what that 70mm was, so take his comment with a grain of salt.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to StarDust on Thu Jul 13 11:36:00 2023
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:41:48 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:16:50 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:54 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.
    Once a bino gets beyond some size and magnification, a small telescope starts to look like a much better choice.
    Correct!
    Use to own a 70 mm bino, for a few years , very usable, can be hand held easy.
    Now I just have a 10x50 bino, Nikon Made in Japan.
    Very nice and versatile, it has good 3D effect too daytime.

    For less than the $250 sale price of that 25x100 one can get a 4.5" reflector that can use various eyepieces and filters, has a stable mount and a finder scope too. One of them even comes on a equatorial mount that can be adapted for some piggyback
    photography.

    What I really want out of a bino is a wide field of view. The big binos don't generally provide that.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 13 15:29:27 2023
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 11:36:03 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:41:48 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:16:50 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:54 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.
    Once a bino gets beyond some size and magnification, a small telescope starts to look like a much better choice.
    Correct!
    Use to own a 70 mm bino, for a few years , very usable, can be hand held easy.
    Now I just have a 10x50 bino, Nikon Made in Japan.
    Very nice and versatile, it has good 3D effect too daytime.
    For less than the $250 sale price of that 25x100 one can get a 4.5" reflector that can use various eyepieces and filters, has a stable mount and a finder scope too. One of them even comes on a equatorial mount that can be adapted for some piggyback
    photography.

    What I really want out of a bino is a wide field of view. The big binos don't generally provide that.

    I guess, some people are nuts about viewing the heaven with both eyes the same times?

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  • From W@21:1/5 to StarDust on Thu Jul 13 17:24:14 2023
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 6:29:29 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 11:36:03 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:41:48 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:16:50 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:54 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    Deal of the day for Prime Members: Celestron – SkyMaster 20X80 Binocular – Outdoor and Astronomy Binocular – Large Aperture for Long Distance Viewing – Multi-coated Optics – Carrying Case Included – Ultra Sharp Focus https://a.co/d/
    647U3NO

    Half price on Amazon.
    This 80 mm is only $90, free shp.
    100 mm is $250.
    Owned a 100 mm bino before, it's huge and heavy.
    Need a tripod or something to hold it.
    Once a bino gets beyond some size and magnification, a small telescope starts to look like a much better choice.
    Correct!
    Use to own a 70 mm bino, for a few years , very usable, can be hand held easy.
    Now I just have a 10x50 bino, Nikon Made in Japan.
    Very nice and versatile, it has good 3D effect too daytime.
    For less than the $250 sale price of that 25x100 one can get a 4.5" reflector that can use various eyepieces and filters, has a stable mount and a finder scope too. One of them even comes on a equatorial mount that can be adapted for some piggyback
    photography.

    What I really want out of a bino is a wide field of view. The big binos don't generally provide that.
    I guess, some people are nuts about viewing the heaven with both eyes the same times?

    The review that you posted (second message) seems to be pitching these binos to beginners. Imtermediate and advanced amateurs don't need to read that review.

    For beginners, a small lower power bino will probably serve them better. If they already have such a bino, then their money will go farther with a telescope than with a larger binocular.

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