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    From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 17 11:31:39 2021
    I was so hyped to feel good about this heartwarming story
    about Indigenous people in Canada getting in touch with
    their culture

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/indigenous-astronomy-wilfred-buck-manitoba-1.6202162

    and then one of the quotes in it basically raised a red flag
    for me, and no doubt for many others here.
    The objectivity of science, as well as the amount of
    technology available to it, lets it provide massive amounts
    of reliable knowledge. Whether it's about black holes,
    stellar evolution, spectroscopy and so on... there's just no
    comparison between modern astronomical science and
    ancient astronomical traditions - whether from Egypt, or
    China, or from indigenous societies.
    So a comment which indicates an attitude placing traditional
    Indigenous cultural thought about the skies in a place of
    superiority to modern astronomy... is, of course, thoroughly
    risible.
    So risible that it takes effort to find a way to indicate that to
    those responsible in a polite and respectful manner.

    John Savard

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sun Oct 17 12:23:53 2021
    On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 12:31:40 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
    I was so hyped to feel good about this heartwarming story
    about Indigenous people in Canada getting in touch with
    their culture

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/indigenous-astronomy-wilfred-buck-manitoba-1.6202162

    and then one of the quotes in it basically raised a red flag
    for me, and no doubt for many others here.

    I should, however, have remained calm enough to consider the
    possibility that the remark was likely made at least partially
    in jest.

    John Savard

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Mon Oct 18 13:12:56 2021
    On Sunday, 17 October 2021 at 14:31:40 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    I was so hyped to feel good about this heartwarming story
    about Indigenous people in Canada getting in touch with
    their culture

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/indigenous-astronomy-wilfred-buck-manitoba-1.6202162

    and then one of the quotes in it basically raised a red flag
    for me, and no doubt for many others here.
    The objectivity of science, as well as the amount of
    technology available to it, lets it provide massive amounts
    of reliable knowledge. Whether it's about black holes,
    stellar evolution, spectroscopy and so on... there's just no
    comparison between modern astronomical science and
    ancient astronomical traditions - whether from Egypt, or
    China, or from indigenous societies.
    So a comment which indicates an attitude placing traditional
    Indigenous cultural thought about the skies in a place of
    superiority to modern astronomy... is, of course, thoroughly
    risible.
    So risible that it takes effort to find a way to indicate that to
    those responsible in a polite and respectful manner.

    John Savard

    Guy can't distinguish between fables and mythology and SCIENCE.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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