• Really nice scope comes up for sale

    From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Thu Aug 26 15:45:05 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 15:43:22 2021
  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 26 21:10:16 2021
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Aug 26 22:26:07 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    The images taken with this scope are as good as a large apo refractor, the only downside of course is the collimation and cooling times but if you take the challenge you can get great images for much less than a big aperture refractor, it always comes
    out of collimation from the factory but I don't care. https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q#customerReviews

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to StarDust on Fri Aug 27 00:27:05 2021
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q


    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Aug 27 05:31:15 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:27:06 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.

    A plain-old 8-inch f/8 Newt with a well-made custom mirror could certainly be a reasonable substitute.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Aug 27 05:16:52 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 6:43:23 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    Does that include a mount or just the OTA and accessories?

    The cost for a new example of this optical tube assembly is shown as $29,600.

    https://www.telescopengineering.com/telescope/apo200fl-f-8/

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?fred__k._engels=C2=AE?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 06:08:40 2021
    http://www.birdingtop500.com/

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Aug 27 10:48:48 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 12:27:06 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.

    Lot of people happy with these scopes!
    Look it the photos taken with it!
    You think that refractor at $32k , 20x better, eh?
    I don,t think so!

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 10:45:18 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 5:16:53 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 6:43:23 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    Does that include a mount or just the OTA and accessories?

    The cost for a new example of this optical tube assembly is shown as $29,600.

    https://www.telescopengineering.com/telescope/apo200fl-f-8/

    Probably, 5 years wait time!

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to StarDust on Fri Aug 27 14:58:47 2021
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 13:45:19 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 5:16:53 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 6:43:23 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    Does that include a mount or just the OTA and accessories?

    The cost for a new example of this optical tube assembly is shown as $29,600.

    https://www.telescopengineering.com/telescope/apo200fl-f-8/
    Probably, 5 years wait time!

    I don't know if it's that long for a TEK, and AP no longer makes scopes larger than 130mm. Takahashi makes scopes larger than six inch, but they make the TEC price seem like a used C8 price.
    CFF is the new one, uncertain about them as of yet.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 14:57:37 2021
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 08:31:16 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:27:06 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.
    A plain-old 8-inch f/8 Newt with a well-made custom mirror could certainly be a reasonable substitute.

    Mirrors can be close. I've seen through/owned probably the finest Mak-Newts and Mak-Cassegrains and although some come
    close, they don't quite match the best refractors.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?fred__k._engels=C2=AE?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 15:19:05 2021
    Should set up on concrete pier, but of course it will bought some rich condo clown and used on a portable tri-pod, with the purchaser forever whining
    about polar alignments and spoiled pretty pictures.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Aug 27 16:42:01 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 2:57:39 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 08:31:16 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:27:06 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.
    A plain-old 8-inch f/8 Newt with a well-made custom mirror could certainly be a reasonable substitute.
    Mirrors can be close. I've seen through/owned probably the finest Mak-Newts and Mak-Cassegrains and although some come
    close, they don't quite match the best refractors.

    I own an old Vixen/Celestron 4" CF APO refractor, I know how good they are! Showing planets/bright DSOs on star parties with my APO , I all ways had a big crowd around my scope.
    But $1.6K vs. $32K is a big jump in price. Not for everyone, I think!
    That's why I asked, is that refractor really 20x better than the Mak-Newt of same aperture?
    Refractors price jump exponentially as aperture gets bigger and bigger.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?fred__k._engels=C2=AE?=@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Aug 27 17:45:16 2021
    "StarDust" wrote: I all ways had a big crowd around my scope.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpBwt4hFN8

    in message news:ffdbfa12-b8d9-4443-901f-eb6e0f4779aen@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 2:57:39 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 08:31:16 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:27:06 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of
    the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.
    A plain-old 8-inch f/8 Newt with a well-made custom mirror could
    certainly be a reasonable substitute.
    Mirrors can be close. I've seen through/owned probably the finest
    Mak-Newts and Mak-Cassegrains and although some come
    close, they don't quite match the best refractors.

    I own an old Vixen/Celestron 4" CF APO refractor, I know how good they are! Showing planets/bright DSOs on star parties with my APO ,
    But $1.6K vs. $32K is a big jump in price. Not for everyone, I think!
    That's why I asked, is that refractor really 20x better than the Mak-Newt
    of same aperture?
    Refractors price jump exponentially as aperture gets bigger and bigger.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 18:30:19 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 5:45:23 PM UTC-7, fred k. engels® wrote:
    "StarDust" wrote: I all ways had a big crowd around my scope.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpBwt4hFN8

    Ja!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSd5BqgaVv8

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to StarDust on Fri Aug 27 21:49:43 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:26:09 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    That one you can't get, it's currently out of stock.

    Plus, it's an astrograph, which means its central obstruction is _so_ big it isn't recommended for
    visual observing. Not that there aren't _other_ much cheaper alternatives, but this one doesn't
    quite fill the bill.

    John Savard

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to StarDust on Fri Aug 27 21:47:51 2021
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:45:07 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

    Well, he said it was a _really_ nice scope. Of course if your budget is smaller,
    you'll have to settle for something more ordinary. Like an 8-inch Schmidt-Cassegrain
    instead of an 8-inch fluorite apochromatic refractor.

    John Savard

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Fri Aug 27 21:56:19 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:49:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:26:09 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q
    That one you can't get, it's currently out of stock.

    Plus, it's an astrograph, which means its central obstruction is _so_ big it isn't recommended for
    visual observing. Not that there aren't _other_ much cheaper alternatives, but this one doesn't
    quite fill the bill.

    So I think you may have to spend a little more: here's a possible alternative:

    https://www.telescope.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=133085

    John Savard

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sat Aug 28 00:20:16 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:49:44 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:26:09 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q
    That one you can't get, it's currently out of stock.

    Plus, it's an astrograph, which means its central obstruction is _so_ big it isn't recommended for
    visual observing. Not that there aren't _other_ much cheaper alternatives, but this one doesn't
    quite fill the bill.

    John Savard

    Somewhat smaller (31%) than C8 (35%)?
    Mak-Newts come as low as 16% CO.
    For larger sensor you want big CO though!

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sat Aug 28 01:21:41 2021
    On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 00:56:20 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:49:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:26:09 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q
    That one you can't get, it's currently out of stock.

    Plus, it's an astrograph, which means its central obstruction is _so_ big it isn't recommended for
    visual observing. Not that there aren't _other_ much cheaper alternatives, but this one doesn't
    quite fill the bill.
    So I think you may have to spend a little more: here's a possible alternative:

    https://www.telescope.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=133085

    John Savard


    Expected ship date Feb 2022! We're now seeing pedestrian telescopes with ship times like big apos!!

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Aug 28 04:16:24 2021
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 4:21:42 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:

    Expected ship date Feb 2022! We're now seeing pedestrian telescopes with ship times like big apos!!

    Sooner or later, we might be back to grinding mirrors.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 07:35:56 2021
    On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 14:57:37 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 08:31:16 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 3:27:06 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 01:26:09 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:10:21 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:45:05 -0700 (PDT),
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/item/267092-for-sale-tec-apo-200-f8-fluorite-apochromat-refractor/

    $32K?
    Pocket change!
    You can get a scope at least as good for 10% of that. It's silly.
    Hehe!
    Only $1600!
    https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q

    A perpetually out of stock Chinese piece of crap. Check out some of the interferometer tests done on these things. Optics look like a phonograph record.
    It's no AP refractor.
    A plain-old 8-inch f/8 Newt with a well-made custom mirror could certainly be a reasonable substitute.

    Mirrors can be close. I've seen through/owned probably the finest Mak-Newts and Mak-Cassegrains and although some come
    close, they don't quite match the best refractors.

    A good reflector, with a couple of more inches of aperture, will be a
    better instrument, both visually and photographically, than a
    refractor, and at a fraction of the price.

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  • From =?iso-8859-1?Q?fred__k._engels=AE?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 07:04:26 2021
    ALL MEMBERS - PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

    Prime Minister Justin Blackface Trudeau tweeted his condolences that

    Those Chicoms have just launched TEN more massive spy satellites into orbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/SuIDKboVhHgtLPG6zm/giphy.mp4

    How's that pretty picture horseshit® working out for you?

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Aug 28 10:09:33 2021
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 1:21:42 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 00:56:20 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:49:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:26:09 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    Hehe!
    Only $1600! https://www.amazon.com/Orion-Premium-Mak-Newt-Astrograph-Telescope/dp/B002JO1L2Q
    That one you can't get, it's currently out of stock.

    Plus, it's an astrograph, which means its central obstruction is _so_ big it isn't recommended for
    visual observing. Not that there aren't _other_ much cheaper alternatives, but this one doesn't
    quite fill the bill.
    So I think you may have to spend a little more: here's a possible alternative:

    https://www.telescope.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=133085

    John Savard
    Expected ship date Feb 2022! We're now seeing pedestrian telescopes with ship times like big apos!!

    What's it to you?
    You not gonna buy one anyway?
    🙄🤔

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sat Aug 28 11:55:16 2021
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:47:53 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:45:07 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

    Well, he said it was a _really_ nice scope. Of course if your budget is smaller,
    you'll have to settle for something more ordinary. Like an 8-inch Schmidt-Cassegrain
    instead of an 8-inch fluorite apochromatic refractor.

    That refractor is going to need a pier or tripod about six feet high in order to get the eyepiece to a comfortable height. That leads one to suspect that this instrument needs to be housed in an observatory. Once you need an observatory, a whole
    universe of larger and more capable telescopes starts to look feasible, and for much less than $32K. Even the observatory won't cost that much.

    Some telescopes seem to demand an observatory, while not really deserving one.

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  • From =?utf-8?Q?fred__k._engels=C2=AE?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 11:24:59 2021
    ALL MEMBERS - PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

    Prime Minister Justin Blackface Trudeau tweeted his condolences that
    Some people will tell you the moderating on the groups can be heavy-handed,
    and there may be some truth to that, at least where one or two of the mods
    are concerned, but do what ya gotta’ do!!!!!!!

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 14:56:42 2021
    On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 14:55:17 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:47:53 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:45:07 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

    Well, he said it was a _really_ nice scope. Of course if your budget is smaller,
    you'll have to settle for something more ordinary. Like an 8-inch Schmidt-Cassegrain
    instead of an 8-inch fluorite apochromatic refractor.
    That refractor is going to need a pier or tripod about six feet high in order to get the eyepiece to a comfortable height. That leads one to suspect that this instrument needs to be housed in an observatory. Once you need an observatory, a whole
    universe of larger and more capable telescopes starts to look feasible, and for much less than $32K. Even the observatory won't cost that much.

    Some telescopes seem to demand an observatory, while not really deserving one.

    They are definitely not for the weak or squeamish astronomers. Cradling a 7-8 inch tube above your head and loading into the rings is a tad nerve-wracking, compared to handling other types of scopes of the
    same aperture. You can now buy rising piers which eliminate the risk but cost a lot. However, if you can afford a premium apo, you can probably buy the pier/mount too.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 23:18:03 2021
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:55:17 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:47:53 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:45:07 PM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:

    $32K?
    Pocket change!

    Well, he said it was a _really_ nice scope. Of course if your budget is smaller,
    you'll have to settle for something more ordinary. Like an 8-inch Schmidt-Cassegrain
    instead of an 8-inch fluorite apochromatic refractor.
    That refractor is going to need a pier or tripod about six feet high in order to get the eyepiece to a comfortable height. That leads one to suspect that this instrument needs to be housed in an observatory. Once you need an observatory, a whole
    universe of larger and more capable telescopes starts to look feasible, and for much less than $32K. Even the observatory won't cost that much.

    Some telescopes seem to demand an observatory, while not really deserving one.

    Lick Observatory has a 16" refractor, but nobody uses it a long time now.
    Just a show piece for tourist! https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/science.ucsc.edu/dist/6/11/files/2021/06/LH7401_RonBricmontLO-HistoryTalk_1920x1281_srgb_9.jpg

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