• I love reading the sale's pitches on Astromart and Cloudynights

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 14 16:42:53 2023
    Guy is selling a scope. Rather than just assuming the buyer will know or can look up the specifics of the instrument being sold, they feel the need to move into "used car salesman mode" with florid descriptions of the product, coupled to too much
    information to actually sell the thing quickly. The pista resistance is when you check them out and find out they have a very similar type but different scope which they've kept because they found it to be better than what they are flogging. Luckily,
    this is the exception and not the norm.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Mar 15 04:11:05 2023
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:42:57 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    Guy is selling a scope. Rather than just assuming the buyer will know or can look up the specifics of the instrument being sold, they feel the need to move into "used car salesman mode" with florid descriptions of the product, coupled to too much
    information to actually sell the thing quickly. The pista resistance is when you check them out and find out they have a very similar type but different scope which they've kept because they found it to be better than what they are flogging. Luckily,
    this is the exception and not the norm.



    It's a good idea to be leery of most used telescopes that are advertised so widely. The best stuff is either kept, given to family or sold to close friends, and never gets advertised.

    Cars are like that too.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 16:50:31 2023
    On Wednesday, 15 March 2023 at 07:11:09 UTC-4, W wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:42:57 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    Guy is selling a scope. Rather than just assuming the buyer will know or can look up the specifics of the instrument being sold, they feel the need to move into "used car salesman mode" with florid descriptions of the product, coupled to too much
    information to actually sell the thing quickly. The pista resistance is when you check them out and find out they have a very similar type but different scope which they've kept because they found it to be better than what they are flogging. Luckily,
    this is the exception and not the norm.


    It's a good idea to be leery of most used telescopes that are advertised so widely. The best stuff is either kept, given to family or sold to close friends, and never gets advertised.

    Cars are like that too.

    The used market is now awash in second-tier small refractors being put up by people who found out astrophotography actually requires an effort.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Mar 15 22:33:17 2023
    On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:50:33 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

    The used market is now awash in second-tier small refractors being put up by people
    who found out astrophotography actually requires an effort.

    An equatorial mount with a clock drive would help too.

    But only *second tier*? You mean half-decent apos, but made in China?
    And not the horrible department store scope, which would be a fourth-
    or fifth- tier refractor?

    In that case, it sounds like there are bargains to be had!

    However, given that I value scopes largely by price per inch of
    aperture - but also by _some_ convenience features that make
    me prefer a Schmidt-Cassegrain or a Maksutov to a Dobsonian...
    but which _don't_ add anything to apochromatic refractors to
    enhance their value per inch... even if that _were_ true, snapping
    up one of those bargains would be of interest to someone other
    than myself.

    John Savard

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