• What the balloon really reveals about space

    From Balloonatics@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 16:32:36 2023
    XPost: sci.astro

    All "satellites" are high-altitude balloons carrying solar arrays and
    radio equipment.

    Normally these balloons are 22 to 34 miles aloft. Balloons at this
    distance are invisible. The distance and atmospheric distortion is
    enough that it is not possible to make out the structure of such a
    balloon even with a telescope.

    NASA is the world's #1 consumer of helium. That's because they have the
    most "satellites" in "space." The satellites are just balloons. There
    are not satellites orbiting at high speeds. It is not even possible to
    get a rocket above 35-50 miles of altitude. At that altitude the lack of atmosphere and lack of air pressure render combustion and thrust
    physically impossible.

    The "Chinese spy balloon" was probably just one of these satellites malfunctioning and falling too low from a problem with the helium
    regulator. Likely the government needed a cover story to explain why
    such a huge balloon with a satellite radio array clearly attached was
    visible in U.S. air space. They don't want you to put two and two
    together to realize that all "satellites" actually are just these kinds
    of very large balloons. You might ask where the trillions of dollars for
    space programs has been going.

    The idea of satellites launched into orbit on rockets into "outer space"
    is a fraud and hoax invented by your rulers. Outer space as you have
    been indoctrinated to believe, does not exist. It's a scam. The
    government can't get anything to go higher than about 50 miles. At that altitude rocket thrusters can't even combust due to the near vacuum
    conditions. Combustion cannot occur in a vacuum, not even with solid propellant. It just will not combust.

    You live in the matrix, a world of lies, a prison for your mind. The
    scientific "community" is a priesthood that is principal player in the
    grift.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Balloonatics on Thu Feb 16 16:42:33 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-7, Balloonatics wrote:

    The idea of satellites launched into orbit on rockets into "outer space"
    is a fraud and hoax invented by your rulers. Outer space as you have
    been indoctrinated to believe, does not exist. It's a scam. The
    government can't get anything to go higher than about 50 miles. At that altitude rocket thrusters can't even combust due to the near vacuum conditions. Combustion cannot occur in a vacuum, not even with solid propellant. It just will not combust.

    Rockets carry oxidizer with them, in addition to fuel. So there is no particular reason why they won't work in a vacuum; they're designed
    to be able to do precisely that.

    I'll admit that if satellites were really balloons, this would open up
    exciting possibilities. It would make it possible for the Earth to be
    flat. Except for other problems with a flat Earth, like how wide
    Australia would have to be.

    John Savard

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Thu Feb 16 16:44:49 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:42:34 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-7, Balloonatics wrote:

    The idea of satellites launched into orbit on rockets into "outer space"
    is a fraud and hoax invented by your rulers. Outer space as you have
    been indoctrinated to believe, does not exist. It's a scam. The
    government can't get anything to go higher than about 50 miles. At that altitude rocket thrusters can't even combust due to the near vacuum conditions. Combustion cannot occur in a vacuum, not even with solid propellant. It just will not combust.
    Rockets carry oxidizer with them, in addition to fuel. So there is no particular reason why they won't work in a vacuum; they're designed
    to be able to do precisely that.

    I'll admit that if satellites were really balloons, this would open up exciting possibilities. It would make it possible for the Earth to be
    flat. Except for other problems with a flat Earth, like how wide
    Australia would have to be.

    ...and, of course, if the U.S. decided to shoot down a Chinese spy
    satellite, in breach of the agreement to pretend that it _isn't_ just
    a balloon, this could lead to the conspiracy unravelling, and it being
    revealed that the Earth is flat!!!

    But that could never happen.

    John Savard

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Balloonatics on Thu Feb 16 18:38:29 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:30:12 PM UTC-8, Balloonatics wrote:
    All "satellites" are high-altitude balloons carrying solar arrays and
    radio equipment.

    Normally these balloons are 22 to 34 miles aloft. Balloons at this
    distance are invisible. The distance and atmospheric distortion is
    enough that it is not possible to make out the structure of such a
    balloon even with a telescope.

    NASA is the world's #1 consumer of helium. That's because they have the
    most "satellites" in "space." The satellites are just balloons. There
    are not satellites orbiting at high speeds. It is not even possible to
    get a rocket above 35-50 miles of altitude. At that altitude the lack of atmosphere and lack of air pressure render combustion and thrust
    physically impossible.

    The "Chinese spy balloon" was probably just one of these satellites malfunctioning and falling too low from a problem with the helium
    regulator. Likely the government needed a cover story to explain why
    such a huge balloon with a satellite radio array clearly attached was
    visible in U.S. air space. They don't want you to put two and two
    together to realize that all "satellites" actually are just these kinds
    of very large balloons. You might ask where the trillions of dollars for space programs has been going.

    The idea of satellites launched into orbit on rockets into "outer space"
    is a fraud and hoax invented by your rulers. Outer space as you have
    been indoctrinated to believe, does not exist. It's a scam. The
    government can't get anything to go higher than about 50 miles. At that altitude rocket thrusters can't even combust due to the near vacuum conditions. Combustion cannot occur in a vacuum, not even with solid propellant. It just will not combust.

    You live in the matrix, a world of lies, a prison for your mind. The scientific "community" is a priesthood that is principal player in the
    grift.

    Then, how do rockets fly to the Moon or Mars or even land?
    On balloons?
    LOL!
    Rockets carry its own oxygen, don't have to suck it from space, ingenious?

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Thu Feb 16 19:29:24 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 7:38:31 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:

    Then, how do rockets fly to the Moon or Mars or even land?
    Well, if the Earth is flat, it follows that the Moon landings must have
    been faked.

    John Savard

    🤣😃🤣😃
    https://fb.watch/iKHuWSNBvR/

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to StarDust on Thu Feb 16 19:20:49 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 7:38:31 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:

    Then, how do rockets fly to the Moon or Mars or even land?

    Well, if the Earth is flat, it follows that the Moon landings must have
    been faked.

    John Savard

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to jsavard@ecn.ab.ca on Fri Feb 17 07:37:46 2023
    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 16:42:33 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
    <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-7, Balloonatics wrote:

    The idea of satellites launched into orbit on rockets into "outer space"
    is a fraud and hoax invented by your rulers. Outer space as you have
    been indoctrinated to believe, does not exist. It's a scam. The
    government can't get anything to go higher than about 50 miles. At that
    altitude rocket thrusters can't even combust due to the near vacuum
    conditions. Combustion cannot occur in a vacuum, not even with solid
    propellant. It just will not combust.

    Rockets carry oxidizer with them, in addition to fuel. So there is no >particular reason why they won't work in a vacuum; they're designed
    to be able to do precisely that.

    I'll admit that if satellites were really balloons, this would open up >exciting possibilities. It would make it possible for the Earth to be
    flat. Except for other problems with a flat Earth, like how wide
    Australia would have to be.

    John Savard

    Don't enable his mental illness.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Balloonatics on Fri Feb 17 17:37:18 2023
    On Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 17:30:12 UTC-5, Balloonatics wrote:
    All "satellites" are high-altitude balloons carrying solar arrays and
    radio equipment.

    Normally these balloons are 22 to 34 miles aloft. Balloons at this
    distance are invisible. The distance and atmospheric distortion is
    enough that it is not possible to make out the structure of such a
    balloon even with a telescope.

    Not that balloon the Chinese launched, it was very large. Remember the resolution of a telescope and that the balloon if seen at a steep angle
    would avoid most of the atmospheric disturbances.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Feb 17 19:34:57 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 5:37:20 PM UTC-8, RichA wrote:
    On Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 17:30:12 UTC-5, Balloonatics wrote:
    All "satellites" are high-altitude balloons carrying solar arrays and
    radio equipment.

    Normally these balloons are 22 to 34 miles aloft. Balloons at this
    distance are invisible. The distance and atmospheric distortion is
    enough that it is not possible to make out the structure of such a
    balloon even with a telescope.

    Not that balloon the Chinese launched, it was very large. Remember the resolution of a telescope and that the balloon if seen at a steep angle
    would avoid most of the atmospheric disturbances.

    Interesting, the balloon was spotted by someone with the naked eye over Canada, which created a media frenzy.
    I guess, the government had to react to it?

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