On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:40:26 -0800 (PST), StarDust
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
They don't release enough carbon to matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:40:26 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
They don't release enough carbon to matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Did you know the average N. American doesn't begin earning their own money until Sept of the year? All the money from the previous 7 months ends up going for taxes of one sort or another.
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Did you know the average N. American doesn't begin earning their own money until Sept of the year? All the money from the previous 7 months ends up going for taxes of one sort or another.
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:ali9rht7j7200jm8rnep0tqiablkn0mojc@4ax.com:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:40:26 -0800 (PST), StarDustAccording to USGS, volcanoes release less than one percent the CO2 as
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
They don't release enough carbon to matter.
man. Mount St. Helens got into the same order of magnitude as
humanity, but only for nine hours (releasing as much CO2 as humanity
does in 2.5 hours).
On the other hand, sulfate aerosols from large eruptions, which
volcanoes can release quite a lot of, cause global cooling by as much
as half a degree for one to three years (or more, for the really
monumental eruptions like Pinatubo in 1978, which reduced global
temps as much as 1.3 degree F for three years), so there's that.
And on the gripping hand, you're arguing with an even bigger idiot
than yourself.
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-climate
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:57:43 -0800 (PST), RichA
<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Did you know the average N. American doesn't begin earning their
own money until Sept of the year? All the money from the
previous 7 months ends up going for taxes of one sort or
another.
The average American begins earning his own money on January 1.
Taxes are your own money, as much as the money you spend on your
food and housing and toys.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:49:53 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:ali9rht7j7200jm8rnep0tqiablkn0mojc@4ax.com:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 13:40:26 -0800 (PST), StarDustAccording to USGS, volcanoes release less than one percent the
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
They don't release enough carbon to matter.
CO2 as man. Mount St. Helens got into the same order of
magnitude as humanity, but only for nine hours (releasing as
much CO2 as humanity does in 2.5 hours).
On the other hand, sulfate aerosols from large eruptions, which
volcanoes can release quite a lot of, cause global cooling by as
much as half a degree for one to three years (or more, for the
really monumental eruptions like Pinatubo in 1978, which reduced
global temps as much as 1.3 degree F for three years), so
there's that.
And on the gripping hand, you're arguing with an even bigger
idiot than yourself.
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-climate
It's a bit marginal to refer to changes on the order of two or
three years as "climate", though. More like impacting global
weather patterns for a few years.
The Earth has experienced periods of extreme volcanism that
truly impacted climate. But we're not in any such period now.
Video says, 1200 tons of sulfur output per day recorded!
Is it a lot or what?
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:57:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Did you know the average N. American doesn't begin earning their own money until Sept of the year? All the money from the previous 7 months ends up going for taxes of one sort or another.The average American begins earning his own money on January 1. Taxes
are your own money, as much as the money you spend on your food and
housing and toys.
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 6:48:57 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
Video says, 1200 tons of sulfur output per day recorded!That depends. If I had to clean all that out of my front yard, it
Is it a lot or what?
would be a lot. But as for pollution being released into the atmosphere,
when considered on a global basis... well, the Earth is a pretty big place.
That's why it came as a surprise that human activity could be large
enough to have global impacts - first with the ozone hole, and now
with global warming.
John Savard
On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 12:02:32 PM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 6:48:57 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
Video says, 1200 tons of sulfur output per day recorded!That depends. If I had to clean all that out of my front yard, it
Is it a lot or what?
would be a lot. But as for pollution being released into the atmosphere,
when considered on a global basis... well, the Earth is a pretty big place. >>
That's why it came as a surprise that human activity could be large
enough to have global impacts - first with the ozone hole, and now
with global warming.
John Savard
Global warming is real, it may be natural, but we don't know how much hooman activity contributing or speeding it up?
That is the question!
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 08:59:49 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:57:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:The average American begins earning his own money on January 1. Taxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Did you know the average N. American doesn't begin earning their own money until Sept of the year? All the money from the previous 7 months ends up going for taxes of one sort or another.
are your own money, as much as the money you spend on your food and
housing and toys.
Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the nation's tax burden. This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 16, or 105 days into the year.
On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:47:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it >represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the >nation's tax burden. This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 16, or 105 days
into the year.
It is part of the system to turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy. A system that is working.
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:47:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it
represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the >> >nation's tax burden. This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 16, or 105 days
into the year.
It is part of the system to turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy. A system that is working.
The notion of "Tax Freedom Day" has been around _long_ before
Donald Trump came along.
I remembered hearing of it in Canada from about the 1970s. A
search, however, shows that the responsible party was one
Dallas Hostetler. He is described as an "American businessman".
Obviously, the motive behind "Tax Freedom Day" _is_ to heighten
public awareness - and resentment of - the burden of taxes. Since
it's based on average taxes, which are higher than those paid by
people with *median* incomes, as the Wikipedia article noted,
it can also be criticized as inaccurate.
The goal is, obviously, to promote the idea of "small government";
less spending on social programs, so that rich businessmen can
make more money. That's true enough. But since it long predates
Trump, "turn Americans against each other and destroy our
democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
And "divide the proletariat to ensure the survival of the capitalist
system" just wouldn't have the right ring to it, at least not in the
U.S., so that's not a good alternative either.
John Savard
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:02:11 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:47:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it
represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the >> >nation's tax burden. This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 16, or 105 days
into the year.
It is part of the system to turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy. A system that is working.
The notion of "Tax Freedom Day" has been around _long_ before
Donald Trump came along.
I remembered hearing of it in Canada from about the 1970s. A
search, however, shows that the responsible party was one
Dallas Hostetler. He is described as an "American businessman".
Obviously, the motive behind "Tax Freedom Day" _is_ to heighten
public awareness - and resentment of - the burden of taxes. Since
it's based on average taxes, which are higher than those paid by
people with *median* incomes, as the Wikipedia article noted,
it can also be criticized as inaccurate.
The goal is, obviously, to promote the idea of "small government";
less spending on social programs, so that rich businessmen can
make more money. That's true enough. But since it long predates
Trump, "turn Americans against each other and destroy our
democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
And "divide the proletariat to ensure the survival of the capitalist >system" just wouldn't have the right ring to it, at least not in the
U.S., so that's not a good alternative either.
John SavardThe right wing effort to destroy democracy goes back at least to
Reagan's terms. Trump didn't invent it.
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-8, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:02:11 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:47:43 -0800 (PST), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>The right wing effort to destroy democracy goes back at least to
wrote:
Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it
represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the
nation's tax burden. This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 16, or 105 days
into the year.
It is part of the system to turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy. A system that is working.
The notion of "Tax Freedom Day" has been around _long_ before
Donald Trump came along.
I remembered hearing of it in Canada from about the 1970s. A
search, however, shows that the responsible party was one
Dallas Hostetler. He is described as an "American businessman".
Obviously, the motive behind "Tax Freedom Day" _is_ to heighten
public awareness - and resentment of - the burden of taxes. Since
it's based on average taxes, which are higher than those paid by
people with *median* incomes, as the Wikipedia article noted,
it can also be criticized as inaccurate.
The goal is, obviously, to promote the idea of "small government";
less spending on social programs, so that rich businessmen can
make more money. That's true enough. But since it long predates
Trump, "turn Americans against each other and destroy our
democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
And "divide the proletariat to ensure the survival of the capitalist
system" just wouldn't have the right ring to it, at least not in the
U.S., so that's not a good alternative either.
John Savard
Reagan's terms. Trump didn't invent it.
The problem with democracy is, it can't build bridges!
Why?
Because, it would collapse!
Why?
If the bridge building was based on the mostly ignorant masses's vote, how it's built, it would collapse.
Big corporations don't base their system on democracy, but control from the top!
Worker have no saying in anything, how or by whom the company is run! >Companies do anything to keep unions out!
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And they
have made great strides in recent years.
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And theyThere is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
have made great strides in recent years.
positions of political power.
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 2:41:24 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:poor, financially or materially and still be Left, at least in American terms.
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
The Left in American roughly represents the enlightenment subculture as an academic/political hybrid rather than a social conviction seen in Western Europe. This subculture is notable for ideologies based on modelling so that a person can be rich orSince that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And theyThere is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
have made great strides in recent years.
positions of political power.
The Left draws its principles from the 'rules of reasoning', which attempts to narrow any perspective, especially solar system and Earth science research, to its notion that experimental observations and wishful thinking take precedence overinterpretation. For instance, the idea that experimental observations in a common greenhouse scale up to the Earth's atmosphere is a property of this subculture and Rule III-
http://strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/newton-principia-rules-reasoning.pdfadvanced era, anything inspirational is ignored through the need to be dictatorial.
Even those who don't think of themselves as 'Left' follow the same disruptive subculture, which is dismaying. The notable trait of the enlightenment subculture is to be dour by trying to sound authoritative so, even in a relatively technologically
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75e1m3nv2cmqntkbq3u@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
On Saturday, 7 January 2023 at 16:09:20 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:poor, financially or materially and still be Left, at least in American terms.
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 2:41:24 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
The Left in American roughly represents the enlightenment subculture as an academic/political hybrid rather than a social conviction seen in Western Europe. This subculture is notable for ideologies based on modelling so that a person can be rich orSince that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And theyThere is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
have made great strides in recent years.
positions of political power.
interpretation. For instance, the idea that experimental observations in a common greenhouse scale up to the Earth's atmosphere is a property of this subculture and Rule III-The Left draws its principles from the 'rules of reasoning', which attempts to narrow any perspective, especially solar system and Earth science research, to its notion that experimental observations and wishful thinking take precedence over
advanced era, anything inspirational is ignored through the need to be dictatorial.http://strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/newton-principia-rules-reasoning.pdf
Even those who don't think of themselves as 'Left' follow the same disruptive subculture, which is dismaying. The notable trait of the enlightenment subculture is to be dour by trying to sound authoritative so, even in a relatively technologically
The Greenhouse Effect has nothing to do with Greenhouses. It merely indicates that the spectroscopic effect of certain molecules in the Earth’s atmosphere makes the Earth warmer just as Greenhouses make their interior warmer. However the heatingeffect of greenhouses is almost entirely due to convection and elimination of draughts prevent the heated air from escaping.
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75...@4ax.com:
Fascism is alive and well on the right. Nobody outside of that eitherOn Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the "left" is moderately right of center.
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75e1m3nv2cmqntkbq3u@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other
and destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an
exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
Fascism is alive and well on the right.
Nobody outside of that
either uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the
"left" is moderately right of center.
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:hfkjrhlg3g2rh976aqqousmrckressbqe5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75e1m3nv2cmqntkbq3u@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other
and destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an
exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
Fascism is alive and well on the right.
And at least as alive and well on the left. If not more so. It
isn't the right that's using the history of the rise to power of
the Nazi Party in the 20s as a manual.
Nobody outside of thatThe left in the US these days are violent insurgents actively
either uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the
"left" is moderately right of center.
attacking the government.
You know it's true, even if you're afraid to admit it.
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:23:12 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:or poor, financially or materially and still be Left, at least in American terms.
On Saturday, 7 January 2023 at 16:09:20 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 2:41:24 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
The Left in American roughly represents the enlightenment subculture as an academic/political hybrid rather than a social conviction seen in Western Europe. This subculture is notable for ideologies based on modelling so that a person can be richSince that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And they >have made great strides in recent years.There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any positions of political power.
interpretation. For instance, the idea that experimental observations in a common greenhouse scale up to the Earth's atmosphere is a property of this subculture and Rule III-The Left draws its principles from the 'rules of reasoning', which attempts to narrow any perspective, especially solar system and Earth science research, to its notion that experimental observations and wishful thinking take precedence over
advanced era, anything inspirational is ignored through the need to be dictatorial.http://strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/newton-principia-rules-reasoning.pdf
Even those who don't think of themselves as 'Left' follow the same disruptive subculture, which is dismaying. The notable trait of the enlightenment subculture is to be dour by trying to sound authoritative so, even in a relatively technologically
effect of greenhouses is almost entirely due to convection and elimination of draughts prevent the heated air from escaping.The Greenhouse Effect has nothing to do with Greenhouses. It merely indicates that the spectroscopic effect of certain molecules in the Earth’s atmosphere makes the Earth warmer just as Greenhouses make their interior warmer. However the heating
Academic Brits, like their political equivalent, have lost all credibility, so I shrug when I see you convince yourself that the insulative effects of a greenhouse don't scale up to the Earth's atmosphere as modellers would have it-
https://climatekids.nasa.gov/greenhouse-effect/
Orwell/Blair was writing about his Eton education and that desperate mental condition where you can force yourself to believe something and then forget it when necessary [Capitalisations are not mine]-flexibility in the treatment of facts. The keyword here is BLACKWHITE. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white in contradiction
“Oceanic society rests ultimately on the belief that Big Brother is omnipotent and that the Party is infallible. But since, in reality Big Brother is not omnipotent and the party is not infallible, there is a need for an unwearying, moment-to-moment
Brexit was an exercise in doublethink or blackwhite and so is climate change modelling.
Planetary climate is based on planetary dynamics in a Sun-centred system, so even if the entire world has been lost to academic boosters and all the hype, planetary climate remains intact and yet to make it into proper discussion and consideration.
Your last comment before this one only affirms how dull and dour you pass through existence.
On Saturday, 7 January 2023 at 20:43:36 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:or poor, financially or materially and still be Left, at least in American terms.
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:23:12 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 7 January 2023 at 16:09:20 UTC, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 2:41:24 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
The Left in American roughly represents the enlightenment subculture as an academic/political hybrid rather than a social conviction seen in Western Europe. This subculture is notable for ideologies based on modelling so that a person can be richSince that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And they >have made great strides in recent years.There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any positions of political power.
interpretation. For instance, the idea that experimental observations in a common greenhouse scale up to the Earth's atmosphere is a property of this subculture and Rule III-The Left draws its principles from the 'rules of reasoning', which attempts to narrow any perspective, especially solar system and Earth science research, to its notion that experimental observations and wishful thinking take precedence over
technologically advanced era, anything inspirational is ignored through the need to be dictatorial.http://strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/newton-principia-rules-reasoning.pdf
Even those who don't think of themselves as 'Left' follow the same disruptive subculture, which is dismaying. The notable trait of the enlightenment subculture is to be dour by trying to sound authoritative so, even in a relatively
effect of greenhouses is almost entirely due to convection and elimination of draughts prevent the heated air from escaping.The Greenhouse Effect has nothing to do with Greenhouses. It merely indicates that the spectroscopic effect of certain molecules in the Earth’s atmosphere makes the Earth warmer just as Greenhouses make their interior warmer. However the heating
Academic Brits, like their political equivalent, have lost all credibility, so I shrug when I see you convince yourself that the insulative effects of a greenhouse don't scale up to the Earth's atmosphere as modellers would have it-
https://climatekids.nasa.gov/greenhouse-effect/
moment flexibility in the treatment of facts. The keyword here is BLACKWHITE. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white inOrwell/Blair was writing about his Eton education and that desperate mental condition where you can force yourself to believe something and then forget it when necessary [Capitalisations are not mine]-
“Oceanic society rests ultimately on the belief that Big Brother is omnipotent and that the Party is infallible. But since, in reality Big Brother is not omnipotent and the party is not infallible, there is a need for an unwearying, moment-to-
you “understand” facts won’t change you. It’s a pity Eric Blair is not alive. He would write a witty description of your warped mental processes. You know that the sidereal day is constant yet you insist that the variable solar day is the “Brexit was an exercise in doublethink or blackwhite and so is climate change modelling.
Planetary climate is based on planetary dynamics in a Sun-centred system, so even if the entire world has been lost to academic boosters and all the hype, planetary climate remains intact and yet to make it into proper discussion and consideration.
Your last comment before this one only affirms how dull and dour you pass through existence.As usual You are unable to see in yourself what you ascribe to others. Double think is the basis of your life. Like the Red Queen you believe six impossible things before breakfast. When you finally decide which outdated explanation of the Solar System
And the way you try to use satellites and probes placed in orbit using Newton’s equations.
And the way you use a satnav despite the fact that both general and special relativistic corrections need to be made before they can be used.
Just as Galileo would put you as the fool in a discussion.
And I’ll thank you for not assuming I supported the swivel eyed loons, political opportunists and selfish offshore financiers who pushed Brexit. You only have to look at my many posts on Quora and Facebook about the subject.
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 21:49:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:hfkjrhlg3g2rh976a...@4ax.com:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75...@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other
and destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an
exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in any
positions of political power.
Fascism is alive and well on the right.
And at least as alive and well on the left. If not more so. It
isn't the right that's using the history of the rise to power of
the Nazi Party in the 20s as a manual.
Nobody outside of thatThe left in the US these days are violent insurgents actively
either uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the
"left" is moderately right of center.
attacking the government.
You know it's true, even if you're afraid to admit it.Again, there really is no left. And certainly not a violent one.
Virtually all of the violence is coming from right wing nuts.
Christian nationalists. Fascists.
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 21:49:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:hfkjrhlg3g2rh976aqqousmrckressbqe5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>>news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75e1m3nv2cmqntkbq3u@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other
and destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an
exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in
any positions of political power.
Fascism is alive and well on the right.
And at least as alive and well on the left. If not more so. It
isn't the right that's using the history of the rise to power of
the Nazi Party in the 20s as a manual.
Nobody outside of thatThe left in the US these days are violent insurgents actively
either uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the
"left" is moderately right of center.
attacking the government.
You know it's true, even if you're afraid to admit it.
Again, there really is no left.
Virtually all of the violence is coming from right wing nuts.
Christian nationalists. Fascists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:1vujrhtr0o365iisc4ub6m9rnl0v1lo4la@4ax.com:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 21:49:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>news:hfkjrhlg3g2rh976aqqousmrckressbqe5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 19:19:51 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>>>news:b31jrh5tum1m47h75e1m3nv2cmqntkbq3u@4ax.com:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:06:00 -0700, Jibini Kula TumbiliNot in the true sense. The name has been coopted by fascists.
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>>>news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other
and destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an
exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
There is no left to speak of in the U.S. At least, none in
any positions of political power.
Fascism is alive and well on the right.
And at least as alive and well on the left. If not more so. It
isn't the right that's using the history of the rise to power of
the Nazi Party in the 20s as a manual.
Nobody outside of thatThe left in the US these days are violent insurgents actively
either uses the term or represents fascist thinking.
In the U.S. the "right" is nationalist and fascist, and the
"left" is moderately right of center.
attacking the government.
You know it's true, even if you're afraid to admit it.
Again, there really is no left.
Including you. You're as fascist as any US lefty.
Virtually all of the violence is coming from right wing nuts.
Christian nationalists. Fascists.
And BLM and Antifa, as five seconds on Google shows clearly. And
those were the organized, armed uprisings that, as often as not,
specifically targeted government facilities. Literal treason.
But as long as the Democrats are in charge, it will all go
unpunished because that's specifcally what they *want*.
And you approve. You know you do.
The BLM and antifa marches were overwhelmingly peaceful.
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGUA real trick is trying to find ANY references to "global warming" prior to around 1990. Considering they've know how CO2 functions since....the late 1800's, I find this REALLY odd.
Until you realize this is a VAST post-communist fabrication designed to achieve what communism failed at: World government and mass re-distribution of wealth.
On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 16:40:28 UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-LCmUlnGGU
A real trick is trying to find ANY references to "global warming" prior to around 1990. Considering they've know how CO2 functions since....the late 1800's, I find this REALLY odd.
Until you realize this is a VAST post-communist fabrication designed to achieve what communism failed at: World government and mass re-distribution of wealth.
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And they
have made great strides in recent years.
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:vedkrh9bikgg3abuejkdi35m4iq38aq09v@4ax.com:
The BLM and antifa marches were overwhelmingly peaceful.
You are literally hallucinating.
Again.
As you were programmed to.
Seek professional help. You *need* it.
On Sun, 08 Jan 2023 03:43:04 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:vedkrh9bikgg3abuejkdi35m4iq38aq09v@4ax.com:
The BLM and antifa marches were overwhelmingly peaceful.
You are literally hallucinating.
Again.
As you were programmed to.
Seek professional help. You *need* it.
As racist slime, this is what I'd expect from you.
Does the US have a death penalty for Treason?
On 06/01/2023 18:06, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2-b767-a534549d57d4n@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And
they have made great strides in recent years.
Only one US President, The Trump, has ever tried to prevent the
smooth transition of power to the President elect by inciting an insurrection.
On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:00:49 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
Does the US have a death penalty for Treason?
Yes, it does, but its laws give a narrow definition of treason,
and so January 6th won't qualify even in the most optimistic
scenario of Trump being made fully accountable.
On 06/01/2023 18:06, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:f88921a9-0abb-48b2...@googlegroups.com:
But since
it long predates Trump, "turn Americans against each other and
destroy our democracy" is, I think, a bit of an exaggeration.
Since that has been a core goal of the left for decades. And theyOnly one US President, The Trump, has ever tried to prevent the smooth transition of power to the President elect by inciting an insurrection.
have made great strides in recent years.
Fortunately his brown shirts were nowhere near organised enough to pull
it off or we would be looking at the Dictatorship of Trumpistan now.
Two days ago was the anniversary of that infamous day.
Does the US have a death penalty for Treason?
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Regards,
Martin Brown
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