• Polar vortex and planetary dynamics

    From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 9 03:25:19 2022
    https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/winter-pattern-december-blocking-cold-air-polar-vortex-split-united-states-europe-fa/

    On the September Equinox, the North pole turns into the dark hemisphere of the Earth and thereafter creates a radius to the planet's divisor separating light and dark hemispheres.

    As the entire surface turns in response to the orbital motion of the Earth, the circumference where the Sun remains out of view expands until the December Solstice in less than two weeks when that circumference reaches it's maximum, known as the Arctic
    circle.

    The polar vortex follows both the daily rotational cycle, which defines the North pole and surrounding geography, while the orbital motion of the Earth supplies the expansion and contraction of surface area where the Sun remains in view and out of sight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE

    The meteorological community are completely oblivious to this development, while those who pretend to be solar system researchers cannot handle basic relationships between the day/night cycle and one rotation every 24 hours, much less the expanded
    perspective of the seasons.

    I wouldn't mind if this was some minor issue but considering the major modification involved and that it has been present for a considerable length of time, it can be dismaying to see the adjustment completely ignored.

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 10 02:06:10 2022
    It is only one of a few times of the year that the NASA satellite registers the actual perspective of the Earth from space for whatever reasons known to the people in charge-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/

    There is a facility to inspect the rotation on a specific date like the September Equinox yet they do not include the correct perspective for that date in the website but do so elsewhere-

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/EpicEarth-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif

    It is clear that contributors here are instrumentalists working off a rotating celestial sphere, so the entire scheme is beyond their capacity; therefore they are allowed to continue with their 'tilting' Earth view of things which constitutes the actual
    NASA version where the Earth has a zero degree inclination on the Equinoxes-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/?date=2022-03-20

    Humanity needs solar system researchers once more instead of theorists and their many cheerleaders within this newsgroup, not as an insult to those with observatories but rather as an incentive to recover this magnificent human heritage.

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 10 13:11:24 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:06:12 AM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    It is only one of a few times of the year that the NASA satellite registers the actual perspective of the Earth from space for whatever reasons known to the people in charge-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/

    Who are you, Gerald, to proclaim that there is only one proper perspective for viewing the Earth from space? The are literally an infinite number of perspectives available and each is valid.

    The instrument that takes these pictures is not a satellite that orbits the Earth but rather a spacecraft that lives in the L1 Lagrangian Point, 1.5 million kilometers from Earth, on a line between the Sun and Earth. From this remote location it is
    constantly presented with an essentially face-on Earth, 24/7/365. Since the axis of rotation of the Earth is not parallel with the axis of rotation of the Sun, the poles of the Earth sometimes point towards the Sun and sometimes point away from the Sun,
    and it constantly varies between these 2 extremes. There is nothing that can be done about this and it is just the way it is. You cannot seem to deal with this but most of us have no problem with it.

    There is a facility to inspect the rotation on a specific date like the September Equinox yet they do not include the correct perspective for that date in the website but do so elsewhere-

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/EpicEarth-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif

    Again, just a different but perfectly valid perspective.

    It is clear that contributors here are instrumentalists working off a rotating celestial sphere, so the entire scheme is beyond their capacity; therefore they are allowed to continue with their 'tilting' Earth view of things which constitutes the
    actual NASA version where the Earth has a zero degree inclination on the Equinoxes-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/?date=2022-03-20

    Humanity needs solar system researchers once more instead of theorists and their many cheerleaders within this newsgroup, not as an insult to those with observatories but rather as an incentive to recover this magnificent human heritage.

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to palsing on Sat Dec 10 17:22:59 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:11:26 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:06:12 AM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    It is only one of a few times of the year that the NASA satellite registers the actual perspective of the Earth from space for whatever reasons known to the people in charge-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
    Who are you, Gerald, to proclaim that there is only one proper perspective for viewing the Earth from space? The are literally an infinite number of perspectives available and each is valid.


    Viewing the Earth from the orbital plane without the hindrance of daily rotation on the surface reveals the spectacular view of the planet where its daily rotation is constantly changing its orientation to the orbital plane and the central Sun-

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/EpicEarth-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OgLCH7jYp8&t=5s

    Who am I indeed !, someone who adores the original Sun-centred astronomers and what they did with limited observations to demonstrate the annual motions of the Earth and other planets as they run circuits of the central Sun.

    I have added to that understanding by introducing observers to the back-and-forth motion of Venus and Mercury by setting the Sun up as a central reference. It takes no more than letting go of the fixed stationary background stars known to the original
    Sun-centred researchers and letting them change position from left to right of the central Sun as a result of the orbital motion of the Earth-

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    Who am I indeed !, I am a Christian who adores my inheritance from people who came before me and who gave so much once familiarity with their perspectives emerges.

    I know all too well the interruption to solar system research by your subculture but rather than see the limitations which the geometry that makes up Ra/Dec observing and modelling, you make it everything with all its hideous outcomes and conclusions.

    Who are you indeed !, You are enemies of humankind and all that is good about a Human Being's journey through the Eternal in temporal life and creation.

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 10 19:18:54 2022
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 5:23:01 PM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:11:26 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:06:12 AM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    It is only one of a few times of the year that the NASA satellite registers the actual perspective of the Earth from space for whatever reasons known to the people in charge-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/

    Who are you, Gerald, to proclaim that there is only one proper perspective for viewing the Earth from space? The are literally an infinite number of perspectives available and each is valid.

    Viewing the Earth from the orbital plane without the hindrance of daily rotation on the surface reveals the spectacular view of the planet where its daily rotation is constantly changing its orientation to the orbital plane and the central Sun-

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/EpicEarth-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OgLCH7jYp8&t=5s

    Who am I indeed !, someone who adores the original Sun-centred astronomers and what they did with limited observations to demonstrate the annual motions of the Earth and other planets as they run circuits of the central Sun.

    I have added to that understanding by introducing observers to the back-and-forth motion of Venus and Mercury by setting the Sun up as a central reference. It takes no more than letting go of the fixed stationary background stars known to the original
    Sun-centred researchers and letting them change position from left to right of the central Sun as a result of the orbital motion of the Earth-

    Gerald, sorry, but you have added *nothing* that was not previously known and fully understood... for centuries! Just because *you* figured this out late in life does not mean that the rest of us have not known this for a very long time.

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    Who am I indeed !, I am a Christian who adores my inheritance from people who came before me and who gave so much once familiarity with their perspectives emerges.

    What does being a Christian have to do with the price of beans?

    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
    and by rulers as useful."
    --- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)

    I know all too well the interruption to solar system research by your subculture but rather than see the limitations which the geometry that makes up Ra/Dec observing and modelling, you make it everything with all its hideous outcomes and conclusions.

    Modern science has taken us to the moon, has taken robotic machines to explore Mars, has sent probes to Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto and several asteroids and comets, and just what is hideous about any of this? Do you think that all of this was accomplished
    using only the science "from people who came before me and who gave so much once familiarity with their perspectives emerges"? Surely you must be joking!

    Who are you indeed!, You are enemies of humankind and all that is good about a Human Being's journey through the Eternal in temporal life and creation.

    Enemies of humankind? Gerald, you have a bizarre view of modern science, and that's a fact!

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to palsing on Sun Dec 11 01:54:45 2022
    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 3:18:56 AM UTC, palsing wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 5:23:01 PM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 9:11:26 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
    On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 2:06:12 AM UTC-8, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:

    It is only one of a few times of the year that the NASA satellite registers the actual perspective of the Earth from space for whatever reasons known to the people in charge-

    https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/

    Who are you, Gerald, to proclaim that there is only one proper perspective for viewing the Earth from space? The are literally an infinite number of perspectives available and each is valid.

    Viewing the Earth from the orbital plane without the hindrance of daily rotation on the surface reveals the spectacular view of the planet where its daily rotation is constantly changing its orientation to the orbital plane and the central Sun-

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/EpicEarth-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OgLCH7jYp8&t=5s

    Who am I indeed !, someone who adores the original Sun-centred astronomers and what they did with limited observations to demonstrate the annual motions of the Earth and other planets as they run circuits of the central Sun.

    I have added to that understanding by introducing observers to the back-and-forth motion of Venus and Mercury by setting the Sun up as a central reference. It takes no more than letting go of the fixed stationary background stars known to the
    original Sun-centred researchers and letting them change position from left to right of the central Sun as a result of the orbital motion of the Earth-
    Gerald, sorry, but you have added *nothing* that was not previously known and fully understood... for centuries! Just because *you* figured this out late in life does not mean that the rest of us have not known this for a very long time.

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    Who am I indeed !, I am a Christian who adores my inheritance from people who came before me and who gave so much once familiarity with their perspectives emerges.
    What does being a Christian have to do with the price of beans?

    It takes satellite imaging where the instrument is free from daily rotational influences to account for the back-and-forth motions of Venus and Mercury as they run smaller and faster circuits around the Sun-

    https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    Even you can appreciate it and that means others with talent can do so also and then go on to teach others how contemporary imaging resolves an astronomical problem that the first Sun-centred astronomers couldn't.

    I do what I do as a Christian because what you call 'religion', I can inspiration or spirituality as both mean the same thing. I don't even mind that you assert that the partitioning of direct/retrogrades of observations of planetary motions has been
    known for centuries despite the demonstration requiring satellite imaging. I come from the Johannine tradition of Christianity so that is always present in what I do-

    "You call me ‘teacher’ and ‘master,’ and rightly so, for indeed I am. If I, therefore, the master and teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash one another’s feet.
    I have given you a model to follow, so that as I have done for you, you should also do.
    Amen, amen, I say to you, no slave is greater than his master nor any messenger* greater than the one who sent him.j
    If you understand this, blessed are you if you do it.
    I am not speaking of all of you. I know those whom I have chosen. But so that the scripture might be fulfilled, ‘The one who ate my food has raised his heel against me.’" Jesus

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  • From Gerald Kelleher@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 12 11:59:13 2022
    For those who do not heed their perceptive vision -

    “There are none so blind as those who will not see”
    -Proverbs

    Galileo, in a letter to Kepler, also remarked that even when the newly invented telescope offered observers a chance to expand their perspectives and perceptions, they chose not to-

    " My dear Kepler, I wish that we might laugh at the remarkable stupidity of the common herd. What do you have to say about the principal philosophers of this academy who are filled with the stubbornness of an asp and do not want to look at either the
    planets, the moon or the telescope, even though I have freely and deliberately offered them the opportunity a thousand times? Truly, just as the asp stops its ears, so do these philosophers shut their eyes to the light of truth" Galileo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uCtot1aDg

    How many times have the planets appeared within the range of that camera (with a limited lifespan) they have their unique characteristics and are familiar as old friends with familiarity as they move in their own individual ways.

    Inspiration and Spirit are always before the individual like a 'Behold' and it comes with the silence of the stars and planets rather than great learning or study.

    " And now, brother, listen to the conclusion. Above all the graces and all the gifts of the Holy Spirit which Christ grants to his friends, is the grace of overcoming oneself, and accepting willingly, out of love for Christ, all suffering, injury,
    discomfort and contempt; for in all other gifts of God we cannot glory, seeing they proceed not from ourselves but from God," St Francis of Assisi

    http://www.missa.org/joie_parfaite_e.php



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