https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!"
😂🤣

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!"
??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But we have
to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:nkoklhl0r6sm3csc82ul0jk4ibkeo5hk2j@4ax.com:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right
now!" ??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But
we have to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for grown
ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her seriously.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:12:25 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:nkoklhl0r6sm3csc82ul0jk4ibkeo5hk2j@4ax.com:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right
now!" ??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But
we have to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for grown
ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her seriously.

What an asshole you are.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:52sllh9u70jn1n9sd08dqhmr5rjn5qi52s@4ax.com:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:12:25 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:nkoklhl0r6sm3csc82ul0jk4ibkeo5hk2j@4ax.com:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right
now!" ??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But
we have to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for
grown ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her
seriously.

What an asshole you are.

I know you are, but what am I?

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-7, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:52sllh9u70jn1n9sd...@4ax.com:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:12:25 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:nkoklhl0r6sm3csc8...@4ax.com:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
<cso...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right
now!" ??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But
we have to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for
grown ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her
seriously.

What an asshole you are.

I know you are, but what am I?

Yeah, I used to say the same thing... when I was in 3rd grade...

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palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote in news:bf7b91cc-4eef-43eb-aa13-0451c53907a4n@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-7, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in
news:52sllh9u70jn1n9sd...@4ax.com:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:12:25 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in
news:nkoklhl0r6sm3csc8...@4ax.com:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
<cso...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer
right now!" ??

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering.
But we have to feel some pain. That's true beyond all
doubt.

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for
grown ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her
seriously.

What an asshole you are.

I know you are, but what am I?

Yeah, I used to say the same thing... when I was in 3rd grade...

And now you argue with it.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

We don't have to suffer now to alleviate future suffering. But we have
to feel some pain. That's true beyond all doubt.

To feel pain is to suffer. Presumably you mean that the amount of pain
that needs to be felt is limited.

I was just reading an article that noted that right now Western nuclear
power generation is dependent on Russia. But that's an oops that *can*
be fixed, and so those responsible ought to be working on it. Maybe we
don't need nuclear power for a renewable future, but some renewables
seem to require the use of large areas of land. And instead of assuming
we can reduce our energy usage by cutting out frivolous uses of energy,
I think it's more realistic to assume we need the capability of using
enormous amounts of energy, so our factories can churn out tanks and
airplanes and the like... I mean, we would *like* a world at peace, but
Russia has shown us that the other fellow is not necessarily going to cooperate.

John Savard

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On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for grown
ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her seriously.

If she was spreading some new idea she made up herself, with her own
limited knowledge and skills, that would indeed make sense.

As it happens, though, there are adults who have genuine credentials
in climate science who are telling us that we need to take carbon dioxide emissions very seriously. All Greta Thunberg is doing is trying to get us to pay attention to *them*.

Even if I think that protest tactics that are disrespectful of the rights of others are counter-productive, I'm not left with much to quarrel with.

John Savard

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On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 7:17:24 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for grown
ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her seriously.

If she was spreading some new idea she made up herself, with her own
limited knowledge and skills, that would indeed make sense.

As it happens, though, there are adults who have genuine credentials
in climate science who are telling us that we need to take carbon dioxide emissions very seriously. All Greta Thunberg is doing is trying to get us to pay attention to *them*.

Even if I think that protest tactics that are disrespectful of the rights of others are counter-productive, I'm not left with much to quarrel with.

John Savard

Time to reduce hooman population from 8 billion to 1 billion!
It would fix everything!

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:5c5243ef-70ed-47c2-85e2-e0ea8484e822n@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:12:30 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

The quickest way to reduced suffering right now would be for
grown ups to stop taking mouthy, ignorant children like her
seriously.

If she was spreading some new idea she made up herself, with her
own limited knowledge and skills, that would indeed make sense.

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever. This is not someone to take seriously, nor is anyone
who *does* take her seriously. She's the punch line of a joke that
isn't funny.

As it happens, though, there are adults who have genuine
credentials in climate science who are telling us that we need
to take carbon dioxide emissions very seriously.

Then *they can tell us that, instead of using a child. who
obviously *can't* know what she's babbling about, as a shill.

This is yet another example of precisely *why* so many people do
*not* take the issue seriously. When they *act* like it's all
either a giant scam, or a joke, it's quite natural for people to
take them at face value.

All Greta
Thunberg is doing is

moving her lips while the puppeteer is talking.

Even if I think that protest tactics that are disrespectful of
the rights of others are counter-productive, I'm not left with
much to quarrel with.

That's because you weren't told to quarrel with it, and you're a
*very* obedient little sheep.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 19:48:07 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!"
😂🤣

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian world government under the costume of climate justice.

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On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:34:36 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 19:48:07 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!" 😂🤣

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian world government under the costume of climate justice.

The anti-Christ , according to some, will come under this pretext, saving the world, the environment, green living etc....

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On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her
kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian
world government under the costume of climate justice.

I believe that not only are you misled, but you are misled in
a way that will blind you to the real dangers democracy
faces - from people like Donald J. Trump.

John Savard

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On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 9:44:33 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

Then *they can tell us that, instead of using a child. who
obviously *can't* know what she's babbling about, as a shill.

The child chose herself, she was not used by anyone.

The climate scientists themselves have spoken out. But they
weren't exciting enough to grab the headlines, so the coverage
of what they said in the media was quickly buried.

The scientists spoke. One person heard them and believed them.
As a young person with many years of life ahead of her, she felt that
if we were all DOOMED, it would be a particularly bad thing for her.
So she became energetic in her advocacy. She started a movement
that got attention.

The fault is not in the "climate cabal" or whatever, the fault is in
how the news media works, concentrating on entertainment instead
of what is important.

John Savard

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On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed. All things you are not. And hers
is the generation that will suffer from the profoundly unethical
decisions of people like you.

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RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote in news:9e3f66d7-11c9-4163-9ce0-4dc8ab847755n@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 19:48:07 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right
now!" 😂🤣

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her kind,
are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian
world government under the costume of climate justice.

It's a low point is a moonbat's life when RichA is the smart one.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:5de99544-bc4e-45b6-b298-935f6c8f840cn@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 9:44:33 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

Then *they can tell us that, instead of using a child. who
obviously *can't* know what she's babbling about, as a shill.

The child chose herself, she was not used by anyone.

You sweet, summer child.

The climate scientists themselves have spoken out. But they
weren't exciting enough to grab the headlines, so the coverage
of what they said in the media was quickly buried.

They're - on paper, at least - actual experts in the field. And
yet, everything they say and do just convinces those who do not
already believe them that they are nothing but grifters.

Making a teenager with no higher education (and no high school
degree, at the beginning) a millionaire doesn't help that any. In
fact, it makes it even worse.

The scientists spoke. One person heard them and believed them.

More than one person heard Alex Jones and believed him. Serious
question: Do *you* take them seriously because of that?

As a young person with many years of life ahead of her,

And zero extertise in climate science.

she felt
that if we were all DOOMED, it would be a particularly bad thing
for her. So she became energetic in her advocacy. She started a
movement that got attention.

And got very wealthy doing so, just any good grifter would do.

The fault is not in the "climate cabal" or whatever, the fault
is in how the news media works, concentrating on entertainment
instead of what is important.

The fault is *entirely* with the climate science community. They
spend *decades* waffling back and forth in their predictions of
doom, from "there's an ice age coming and we're all going to die if
we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)" to "the world is
overpopulated and we're all going to die if we don't do something
RIGHT NOW (give us money)" to the current "the world is overheating
and we're all going to die if we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give
us money)".

Obviously, they were *wrong* on the previous "and we're all going
to die if we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)"
predictions, it isn't exactly irrational to believe they're *still*
as wrong as they have been *100%* of the time in the past -
especially when they continue to act *the* *same* *way*.

Thunberg is another example of how the way they act produces the
exact opposite effect of what they *say* they want. All the world
renown (in their field) scientists can't convince people of what
they say, so they bring in a *child* to be their mouthpiece, and
pretend to take her seriously. That makes everything they say
*less* credible.

There are only two possible interpretations:

Either they know this, or they don't.

If they don't know this - after *fify* *years* of "doing the same
thing and expecting different results", they're so fucking stupid
(or mentally ill) they should be institutionalized for their own
safety, and they *certainly* can't be taken seriously.

If they do know this, then their *actual* goals are - obviously -
not what they *say* their goals are. And this is *entirely*
consistent with the facts on the ground, like the raging hypocricy
of people like Al Gore telling people - literally - that everyone
(else) has to take cold showers in the dark to save the planet,
while flying around in his private jet, and riding in limos to
conferences with all the other hypocrites, and paying an electric
bill on one of his mansions (paid for with family tobacco money)
that is more than the average person's income. The insane
ramblings, impossible goals, and deliberately offensiveness. And
amassing of ever more personal wealth. Know what that all adds up
to? It's all - 100% of it - what you see with successful *cults*.

And one of the necessary methods of cults - one they can't survive
without - is literally *insane* dogma, literally *impossible*
goals, with the specific goal of making their followers look so
crazy nobody normal will have anything to do with them. This
isolates the followers, and keeps them away from normal people,
where they might figure out how fucking *crazy* they've become.

It might well be that the current "and we're all going to die if we
don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)" predictions are true,
but it *doesn't* *matter* if nobody will believe them, and nobody
believes them.

Apparently, all these brilliant scientists are too fucking stupid
to understand the moral of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

Certainly, you are.


--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:13ec234d-33b3-4bae-98bb- b2522d0ea4c0n@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:34:36 PM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her
kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian
world government under the costume of climate justice.

I believe that not only are you misled, but you are misled in
a way that will blind you to the real dangers democracy
faces - from people like Donald J. Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:s4bqlh9ph5mt3vqf3brp9drn06kp4blchd@4ax.com:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed.

Sock. Puppet.

Probably knows it, too, given how much money she's made (most
estimates are that she's a millionaire) being a mouthpeice for people
who *should* be far more credible than her, but still can't confince
anyone they're anything but grifters.

You, on the other hand, are too fucking stupid to know your ass from
a hole in the ground, even with a thumb test.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:s4bqlh9ph5mt3vqf3...@4ax.com:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed.

Sock. Puppet.

Probably knows it, too, given how much money she's made (most estimates are that she's a millionaire)

She hasn't actually 'made' any money at all...

https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/

"Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to worthy causes through her foundation."

... she won it.

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:42:14 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:s4bqlh9ph5mt3vqf3...@4ax.com:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown >>whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed.

Sock. Puppet.

Probably knows it, too, given how much money she's made (most estimates are that she's a millionaire)

She hasn't actually 'made' any money at all...

https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/

"Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to worthy causes through her foundation."

... she won it.

She can donate the money to me, any time!
😎😂

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palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote in news:79b5c213-aadb-41a9-b71c-783c8decbd8an@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in
news:s4bqlh9ph5mt3vqf3...@4ax.com:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed.

Sock. Puppet.

Probably knows it, too, given how much money she's made (most
estimates a

re that she's a millionaire)

She hasn't actually 'made' any money at all...

https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/

"Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and
stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to
worthy causes through her foundation."

Until I see a receipt, I'm skeptical.

... she won it.

I have serious doubts that's the only source of income for her.

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her
allowance.

So gobble down all the propaganda you want. I'm sure your betters
apprecaite it.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

palsing <pnal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:79b5c213-aadb-41a9...@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 4:21:00 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in
news:s4bqlh9ph5mt3vqf3...@4ax.com:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2022 03:44:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:

She's a sock puppet, with no ideas or knowledge of her eown
whatsoever.

She is smart, educated, and informed.

Sock. Puppet.

Probably knows it, too, given how much money she's made (most
estimates a

re that she's a millionaire)

She hasn't actually 'made' any money at all...

https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/

"Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and
stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to
worthy causes through her foundation."

Until I see a receipt, I'm skeptical.

... she won it.

I have serious doubts that's the only source of income for her.

And what exactly is your evidence for this claim?

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just guessing...

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:34:36 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 19:48:07 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!" 😂🤣

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian world government under the costume of climate justice.

The anti-Christ , according to some, will come under this pretext, saving the world, the environment, green living etc....

The World Economic Forum (WEF) and Great Reset are not arcane conspiracy theories, their agendas are right out in plain view and they are no longer hiding it.

The Great Reset is the name of the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, held in June 2020. They want to create a soft one-world government by 2030.

The Great Reset is a one world order, communist, push across the globe. I hope every person researches it and it'll help them understand exactly what is happening. It's the EVIL blueprint for what these globalist overlords have in store for ALL of us.
Hence the reason why they're tearing down national borders as well.

There are three components to the New World Order (NWO). A one world government which is geopolitical, a one world religion which is New Age, and a one world digital programmable currency system.

The Book of Revelation discusses a one world government. It has nothing good to say about it.

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palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote in news:dadb0665-d7fa-4ef3-a8f8-59d3b01bd2den@googlegroups.com:

I have no
clue...

Obviously. You're not supposed to.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

palsing <pnal...@gmail.com> wrote in news:dadb0665-d7fa-4ef3...@googlegroups.com:

I have no
clue...

Obviously. You're not supposed to.

So, you apparently have zero evidence to support any of your claims... just as I thought... just a pretender, you are...

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:36:17 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

As that article describes it as a "pejorative term" for people who say
negative things about Trump, it hardly supports your case.

Get back to me when it's in DSM.

John Savard

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:16:04 PM UTC-6, Scott Kozel wrote:

The Book of Revelation discusses a one world government. It has nothing good to say about it.

Ask _your_ physician about mono-amine oxidase inhibitors!

John Savard

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no clue...
and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a ride
from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a solar-powered boat.

Not for her, the kind of criticisms that are sometimes levelled at the
energy footprint of Al Gore!

John Savard

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no clue...
and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a ride
from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a solar-powered boat.

Not for her, the kind of criticisms that are sometimes levelled at the
energy footprint of Al Gore!

It turns out that her transatlantic voyages were so famous that they
have been immortalized in Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Voyages_of_Greta_Thunberg

John Savard

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:f7061dde-b34e-4486-a689-c6f757ad3970n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:36:17 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

As that article describes it as a "pejorative term" for people
who say negative things about Trump, it hardly supports your
case.

It describes you perfectly.

Get back to me when it's in DSM.

You have a lot of diangoses from there, do you?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her
allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no
clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just
guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a
ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but she
certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her, etc.,
for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was raised
as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for, or how much
was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote in news:e205041f-d94d-42ce-80f6-1f9e7cfa27a2n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

palsing <pnal...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:dadb0665-d7fa-4ef3...@googlegroups.com:

I have no
clue...

Obviously. You're not supposed to.

So, you apparently have zero evidence to support any of your
claims...

Which is as much as you have that the prize is her sole source of
income.

just as I thought

There's no evidence whatsoever that has ever happened.

... just a pretender, you are...

I know you are, but what am I?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 2:16:04 AM UTC, Scott Kozel wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:22:02 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:34:36 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 19:48:07 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!" 😂🤣

Thunberg is a modern-day Moaist who, like others of her kind, are using the environment to try to bring in a totalitarian world government under the costume of climate justice.

The anti-Christ , according to some, will come under this pretext, saving the world, the environment, green living etc....

The World Economic Forum (WEF) and Great Reset are not arcane conspiracy theories, their agendas are right out in plain view and they are no longer hiding it.

The Great Reset is the name of the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, held in June 2020. They want to create a soft one-world government by 2030.

The Great Reset is a one world order, communist, push across the globe. I hope every person researches it and it'll help them understand exactly what is happening. It's the EVIL blueprint for what these globalist overlords have in store for ALL of us.

Hence the reason why they're tearing down national borders as well.

There are three components to the New World Order (NWO). A one world government which is geopolitical, a one world religion which is New Age, and a one world digital programmable currency system.

The Book of Revelation discusses a one world government. It has nothing good to say about it.

That made me smile because, as I am a Johannine Christian first and foremost, the last Johannine work is a masterpiece in so many ways in the proper spirit.

Its outward descriptions are not just mathematical but geometric so those pursuing gematria are barking up the wrong tree.

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or her
allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no
clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just
guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a
ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but she
certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her, etc.,
for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was raised
as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for, or how much
was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

What does it matter what it cost? The value generated has been
tremendous, and may be the difference on whether civilization
survives.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:ejsslhljm4tjevp2r8im4123jjf2oeu8db@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or
her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no
clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just
guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a
ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but she
certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her,
etc., for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was
raised as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for, or
how much was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

What does it matter what it cost?

Since we are discussing the ways in which Thunberg has financially
benefitted from being a sock puppet, how could is possibly *not*
matter?

The

cash

value generated has been
tremendous,

That's the point. I'm glad you finally got it.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 17:57:10 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:ejsslhljm4tjevp2r8im4123jjf2oeu8db@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or
her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have no
clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are just
guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching a
ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but she
certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her,
etc., for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was
raised as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for, or
how much was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

What does it matter what it cost?

Since we are discussing the ways in which Thunberg has financially
benefitted from being a sock puppet, how could is possibly *not*
matter?

Who cares if she has financially benefited? That's good. People should
benefit from their actions. Especially when they're good actions that
improve human lives.

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On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:34:38 AM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

Who cares if she has financially benefited? That's good. People should benefit from their actions. Especially when they're good actions that
improve human lives.

Well, in another post, he claimed that climate scientists behaved in such
a way as to drive him, and other sensible people like him, to the conclusion that they were just making up stories about possible disaster to steer more research funding their way.

Given that mindset, of course he doesn't think that what Greta Thunberg
is doing is benefiting the human race, and cynically attributing a corrupt motive to her comes naturally.

Never mind money, though. Sure, going around the world and leading
large-scale demonstrations is much more fun than just dutifully
attending classes at school every day. However, even if global warming
*were* a hoax (which notion, of course, is absurd nonsense) this does
not mean she would be _in_ on that hoax. And so I think her motive is
an obvious - and highly praiseworthy - one.

She is doing what she is doing... because no one else was doing it.

"If not me, then who? If not now, then when?" Yup. Good old Rabbi
Hillel. Glad somebody listened to him.

No doubt he thinks that the Mississippi drying up is just due to a
coincidental hot spell, which does not at all add to the evidence that our range of typical weather has shifted towards warmer weather because
of global warming.

John Savard

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On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

The fault is *entirely* with the climate science community. They
spend *decades* waffling back and forth in their predictions of
doom, from "there's an ice age coming and we're all going to die if
we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)" to "the world is overpopulated and we're all going to die if we don't do something
RIGHT NOW (give us money)" to the current "the world is overheating
and we're all going to die if we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give
us money)".

I didn't realize that Paul Ehrlich (or any of the other people who
called attention to the potential dangers of overpopulation) was a
climate scientist.

In any case, while we are feeding more people than had previously
been thought possible, thanks to the Green Revolution and its
unsung spearhead Norman Borlaug... surely it is _not_ far-fetched
speculation that people could out-breed available food resources.

Particularly since the historical record shows that they've kept doing
that over and over.

And the scientific fact that we happen to be living in the middle of
an ice age, with our current mild weather due to also living in a brief interglacial period, which might end in a mere 10,000 years - or less -
has *not* been overthrown or disproven at all.

It's _still_ a scientific fact. What the scientists back then didn't
realize - just like everyone else - was that the fossil fuel use of
humanity was becoming so huge that it was actually going to make
measurable changes in the composition of the Earth's atmosphere.

That had never happened before in all of our history. Yes, the world's industrial output was growing, so it was larger than ever before - but
no one noticed anything out of the ordinary, so no one sat down and
did the math in advance to find out that this was going to change very
soon.

No: there had to be some noticeable effects - even if they were
just measurements of the proportion of carbon dioxide, and not
dramatic droughts and so on - to turn the attention of scientists in
that direction.

So we've managed to overcome being in the middle of an ice age, and
shift things drastically in the other direction. Imagine if we *weren't* in
the middle of an ice age!

John Savard

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:58e3085e-1bcd-48f0-a489-230235bfbe92n@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:34:38 AM UTC-6, Chris L
Peterson wrote:

Who cares if she has financially benefited? That's good. People
should benefit from their actions. Especially when they're good
actions that improve human lives.

Well, in another post, he claimed that climate scientists
behaved in such a way as to drive him, and other sensible people
like him, to the conclusion that they were just making up
stories about possible disaster to steer more research funding
their way.

Typical fascist lefty lie.

Or perhaps you believe it, being as stupid and illiterate as you
are, but that's still not what I said.

Given that mindset, of course he doesn't think that what Greta
Thunberg is doing is benefiting the human race, and cynically
attributing a corrupt motive to her comes naturally.

Never mind money, though. Sure, going around the world and
leading large-scale demonstrations is much more fun than just
dutifully attending classes at school every day.

Being *able* to take a year off and travel the world is much nicer
than what she wants to reduce everyone else to.

However, even
if global warming *were* a hoax (which notion, of course,

Which is, again, a lie on yout part, since I never offered an
opinion on whether or not the alarmism is correct, only that it
doesn't matter when they present it in such a way as to guarantee
no one will believe them. And they *know* that's what they're
doing.

is
absurd nonsense) this does not mean she would be _in_ on that
hoax. And so I think her motive is an obvious - and highly
praiseworthy - one.

If intentions matter, and actual results do not, then you *must*
find Jim Jones praiseworthy, since he believe he was doing God's
work when he murdered 900 people.

Or you're a lying hypocrite, as usual.

And we both know which it is, don't we?

She is doing what she is doing... because no one else was doing
it.

That is often a sign that it isn't something that needs to be done.

"If not me, then who? If not now, then when?" Yup. Good old
Rabbi Hillel. Glad somebody listened to him.

No doubt he thinks that the Mississippi drying up is just due to
a coincidental hot spell, which does not at all add to the
evidence that our range of typical weather has shifted towards
warmer weather because of global warming.

You don't know, having no credentials in the subject.

And neither does Greta Thunberg. Like you, she's a sock puppet
moving her lips when her handlers move their fingers.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:kljvlhlrtja1fsrjdt6s15q9b3cs1b8egk@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 17:57:10 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:ejsslhljm4tjevp2r8im4123jjf2oeu8db@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7,
Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or
her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have
no clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are
just guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching
a ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but
she certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her,
etc., for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was
raised as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for,
or how much was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

What does it matter what it cost?

Since we are discussing the ways in which Thunberg has
financially benefitted from being a sock puppet, how could is
possibly *not* matter?

Who cares if she has financially benefited?

Anybody with a brain in their head.

That's good. People
should benefit from their actions.

Always? Really? Muggers should benefit from their actions?
Murderers should benefit from their actions?

More to the point, grifters should benefit from their actions?

Especially when they're good
actions that improve human lives.

Most people do not consider destroying their standard of living
(while those doing so get rich doing it), shorting their lifespans
(while those doing so get rich doing it), and reducing everyone
(but themselves) to indentured servitude (while those doing so get
rich doing it) to be an improvement.

But then, you're already a cult member who knows full well that
you're incapable of running your own life, and are grateful to have
yout betters tell you you're better off without all the things you
can't afford because you're a pathetic loser who can't hold down a
job.


--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:4d86022f-8761-47b1-8d2f-3441d687c5fen@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:

The fault is *entirely* with the climate science community.
They spend *decades* waffling back and forth in their
predictions of doom, from "there's an ice age coming and we're
all going to die if we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us
money)" to "the world is overpopulated and we're all going to
die if we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)" to the
current "the world is overheating and we're all going to die if
we don't do something RIGHT NOW (give us money)".

I didn't realize that Paul Ehrlich (or any of the other people
who called attention to the potential dangers of overpopulation)
was a climate scientist.

Same rhetoric, same fear pandering for money, same 100% failure
rate. A difference which makes no difference is no difference. In
short, when the average person can't tell them apart, they will
treat them all the same.

In any case, while we are feeding more people than had
previously been thought possible, thanks to the Green Revolution
and its unsung spearhead Norman Borlaug... surely it is _not_
far-fetched speculation that people could out-breed available
food resources.

"Stanford biologist Paul Ehrlich wrote in his best-selling 1968
book The Population Bomb, “In the 1970’s, hundreds of millions of
people will starve to death” because of overpopulation. (Later
editions modified the sentence to read “In the 1980’s.”)"

Where are the hundreds of millions corposes stored?

100% failure rate.

People who actually understand demographic trends are *far* more
concerned with *falling* birth rates, already below replacement
levels in many western nations (and China, last I heard).

Particularly since the historical record shows that they've kept
doing that over and over.

Very few famines have been caused by lack of food. Nearly always,
they're caused by deliberate political policy. Genocidal policy, as
often as not.

And the scientific fact that we happen to be living in the
middle of an ice age, with our current mild weather due to also
living in a brief interglacial period, which might end in a mere
10,000 years - or less - has *not* been overthrown or disproven
at all.

Which is to say, you just admitted that the people who claim it has
been conclusively proven - no possibly question - that it's all
caused by human activity are either lying or full of shit.

Yes. You did.

It's _still_ a scientific fact. What the scientists back then
didn't realize - just like everyone else - was that the fossil
fuel use of humanity was becoming so huge that it was actually
going to make measurable changes in the composition of the
Earth's atmosphere.

And what's not known *now*? You don't know, and neither does anyone
else.

That had never happened before in all of our history. Yes, the
world's industrial output was growing, so it was larger than
ever before - but no one noticed anything out of the ordinary,
so no one sat down and did the math in advance to find out that
this was going to change very soon.

And their predictions have been 100% wrong. Every. Time.

No: there had to be some noticeable effects - even if they were
just measurements of the proportion of carbon dioxide, and not
dramatic droughts and so on - to turn the attention of
scientists in that direction.

So we've managed to overcome being in the middle of an ice age,
and shift things drastically in the other direction. Imagine if
we *weren't* in the middle of an ice age!

And again, though you won't understand it, and will lie about it in
the future, it *doesn't* *matter* if they're right this time -
after 50 or 75 years of doom crying while being wrong 100% of the
time - it *doesn't* *matter* when they present their case in such
as way that *causes* people to not believe them. And after 50 or 75
years, they can't possibly *not* know that's the end result of what
they're doing.

So what's the real agenda? It *clearly* must involve *preventing*
any effective measures to change things. Because if they were so
stupid they didn't understand that's what they're causing - with 50
or 75 years of expereince, they wouldn't be able to walk and
breathe at the same time.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:54:21 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >news:kljvlhlrtja1fsrjdt6s15q9b3cs1b8egk@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 17:57:10 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>news:ejsslhljm4tjevp2r8im4123jjf2oeu8db@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7,
Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out or
her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I have
no clue... and I suspect that you do not, either... you are
just guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg hitching
a ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic in a
solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but
she certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing her,
etc., for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was
raised as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for,
or how much was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to cruise
around the world.

What does it matter what it cost?

Since we are discussing the ways in which Thunberg has
financially benefitted from being a sock puppet, how could is
possibly *not* matter?

Who cares if she has financially benefited?

Anybody with a brain in their head.

Well, that rules you out.

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On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

So what's the real agenda? It *clearly* must involve *preventing*
any effective measures to change things. Because if they were so
stupid they didn't understand that's what they're causing - with 50
or 75 years of expereince, they wouldn't be able to walk and
breathe at the same time.

Of course, I disagree with you.

But sometimes it seems to me that _another_ group of people,
also opposed to global warming, is aiming at just that. Even in
that case, I don't really think that it's their intention.

That is, the "green" activists.

Because they don't just oppose fossil fuels, they also strongly
oppose nuclear power. Since nuclear power allows for a basically
unlimited energy supply, while renewables are often constrained
by the amount of land they use, nuclear is a carbon-free form of
energy that obviously _could_ work, and it wouldn't cause the
paralyzing fear that if we addressed carbon emissions, we would
damage the economy severely, throwing many people out of
work.

When it comes to the climate scientists, though, I think that it's
obvious that they're not stupid - stupid people don't pass
first-year Calculus - and they're not malicious either. But as there
is that common human failing of judging other people by using
oneself as the standard... the problem is their naive and touching
faith in human nature.

They think that if things are explained to people in simple enough
language for them to understand, then they will behave rationally.

In the real world, the only way people will listen to someone who is
telling them what they don't want to hear... is if that person has first
built up a *lot* of trust beforehand.

So you've touched on a real issue. But the problem isn't so much
that scientists have been acting like Chicken Little in the past. These
other past disaster predictions you cited were, for the most part, left
as curiosities in magazines about science - there was no real effort
made to get the public ready to _do_ something about those previous
impending disasters.

Oh, no. If you want the _real_ reason why a huge chunk of the American population doesn't trust what scientists say - you need to look somewhere
else. Start by looking at *which* chunk of the population thinks that way.

The Trump voters.

What issue might those people have had with science before
global warming came along?

Phrased like this, it becomes *obvious* why the oil companies had such
ready material to shape to their ends.

Those *scientists* are trying to tell us that people descended from apes, when everyone knows that God formed Adam out of the dust of the Earth, and
formed Eve out of Adam's rib! The Bible is the Word of God, and how could an omniscient God not know how life really came to be?

*This* is the root of the problem. This is why so many people are
unable to understand how effective science is as a method for finding
out the truth, and instead treat the conclusions of scientists as no more
than anyone else's opinion. Because the way they think is encapsulated
by the preceding paragraph.

John Savard

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:d4159aee-e08c-4c4c-aba6-6e7ea8b510f5n@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

So what's the real agenda? It *clearly* must involve
*preventing* any effective measures to change things. Because
if they were so stupid they didn't understand that's what
they're causing - with 50 or 75 years of expereince, they
wouldn't be able to walk and breathe at the same time.

Of course, I disagree with you.

But sometimes it seems to me that _another_ group of people,
also opposed to global warming, is aiming at just that. Even in
that case, I don't really think that it's their intention.

That is, the "green" activists.

You were told to, and you're an obedient little sheep.



--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in news:fes0mh12v1ejvn8mo6scapu6akap2q2g0v@4ax.com:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:54:21 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>news:kljvlhlrtja1fsrjdt6s15q9b3cs1b8egk@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 17:57:10 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris L Peterson <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in >>>>news:ejsslhljm4tjevp2r8im4123jjf2oeu8db@4ax.com:

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:46:06 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in >>>>>>news:1961590d-3fec-4560-9640-288f4ec8f736n@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-6, palsing
wrote:

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7,
Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

And she's *certainly* not paying for world travel out
or her allowance.

Again, evidence for this claim? You might be right, I
have no clue... and I suspect that you do not, either...
you are just guessing...

I do remember _one_ news item about Greta Thunberg
hitching a ride from someone who was crossing the Atlantic
in a solar-powered boat.

How much did the boat cost? How pay for it? She didn't, but
she certainly didn't hesitate to make use of all that money.

And *somebody* spend a lot of money feeding her, housing
her, etc., for the trip of "several months."

And Wikipedia, of course, won't mention how much money was
raised as a result, nor what organziations it was raise for,
or how much was spent on her.

Must be nice to be wealthy enough to take a year off to
cruise around the world.

What does it matter what it cost?

Since we are discussing the ways in which Thunberg has
financially benefitted from being a sock puppet, how could is
possibly *not* matter?

Who cares if she has financially benefited?

Anybody with a brain in their head.

Well, that rules you out.

I know you are, but what am I?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:48:07 PM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAZZkPMMs_Q

"The only way to prevent future suffering is to suffer right now!"
😂🤣

Thunberg does not appear to have missed too many meals.

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On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 4:21:09 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

Thunberg does not appear to have missed too many meals.

She lives in a Western industrialized nation, so I would not
expect for her to have experienced hunger.

On top of that, it is of Sweden that she is a native; that is a
country that tries to take care of even its poorest citizens.

And she is white.

And as she has her girlish figure, and is of a slim and athletic
build, obviously you could not have been trying to disparage
her... in the other way that remark could be taken... because
it would be ludicrous.

John Savard

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On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:12:53 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 4:21:09 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

Thunberg does not appear to have missed too many meals.

She lives in a Western industrialized nation, so I would not
expect for her to have experienced hunger.

On top of that, it is of Sweden that she is a native; that is a
country that tries to take care of even its poorest citizens.

And she is white.

And as she has her girlish figure, and is of a slim and athletic
build, obviously you could not have been trying to disparage
her... in the other way that remark could be taken... because
it would be ludicrous.

John Savard

You are not very bright, are you?

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On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:18:12 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

If you *just* noticed that, he's not the only one who isn't very
bright.

Oh, dear me, no. He has considered me to be an evil socialist for
quite some time.

John Savard

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On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:15:54 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

You are not very bright, are you?

Perhaps I _should_ have just addressed the obvious issue directly.

Since she went to great lengths to arrange for a trip on someone's solar-powered sailboat... at least she is going to great lengths to
avoid the _appearance_ of hypocrisy.

She asks people to use less fossil fuels, not to miss meals.

Since she is young, and lives in Sweden, I have no difficulty in
believing that she can get to where she needs to go by using
the bicycle or public transit.

This is quite unlike the situation in the United States, where one of
the reasons black people have limited employment opportunities
is because public transit adequate to going to work every day tends
not to be available in many American cities, or so I have read.

It has just never occurred to me to even suspect Greta Thunberg of
hypocrisy, and the sort of hypocrisy of which Al Gore is often
accused strikes me as...utterly irrelevant to the issue.

This does not mean, though, that I think she is without fault. I do
tend to suspect her, and others like her, of... naïveté.

Ever since about 1968, the economy has been in such a state that
a great many people's hopes for the future have been crushed. So they're
in no mood to hear anything that is going to stand in the way of bringing
the economy back to what it is supposed to be: what it was in the early 'sixties, so that everyone, after high school, can get married and start
a family - because they will get a job that will shortly lead to a car and then a house in the suburbs.

Or if you can't afford a house in the suburbs, at least make the place where you do live safe and crime free.

The oil embargo of 1973 showed how important plentiful energy supplies
are to the economy. Solar panels didn't fill the slack then, and so there's no reason to believe that they can do it now. Powering whole cities on batteries? Are they crazy? And look at Ted Kennedy preventing a windmill farm from
ruining his view.

While it may be true that such things are trivial compared to "we're all DOOMED",
they still impact the political process which needs to work if anything is going to
get done.

That's why my answer is nuclear power. We've had nuclear power plants for decades. We _know_ they work, we know they can provide lots of electricity, and they don't use up acre after acre of land. The fact that some quiche-eating libs
don't like them... is just a *bonus* to the voting bloc that has to be won over.

Because the pitch for wind and solar and all that warm and fuzzy stuff... usually
mentions conservation and lifestyle. And if what we need is more and more bigger
and bigger factories to send tanks to Ukraine, that doesn't fly. Nuclear power plants, on the other hand, are consistent with the kind of massive industrial output
that won World War II.

John Savard

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W <wsnell01@hotmail.com> wrote in news:5b081bb6-34ab-4dd7-80fc-b802a426a02cn@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 1:12:53 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 4:21:09 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

Thunberg does not appear to have missed too many meals.

She lives in a Western industrialized nation, so I would not
expect for her to have experienced hunger.

On top of that, it is of Sweden that she is a native; that is a
country that tries to take care of even its poorest citizens.

And she is white.

And as she has her girlish figure, and is of a slim and
athletic build, obviously you could not have been trying to
disparage her... in the other way that remark could be taken...
because it would be ludicrous.

John Savard

You are not very bright, are you?

If you *just* noticed that, he's not the only one who isn't very
bright.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:1b1d72e5-395d-40a2-a07c-6142bf15ae52n@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:18:12 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

If you *just* noticed that, he's not the only one who isn't
very bright.

Oh, dear me, no. He has considered me to be an evil socialist
for quite some time.

So you're saying he's an *observant* wingnut.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:3a4d0299-0d37-40b9-a7a7-040cd50ace68n@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 3:15:54 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

You are not very bright, are you?

Perhaps I _should_ have just addressed the obvious issue
directly.

Since she went to great lengths to arrange for a trip on
someone's solar-powered sailboat... at least she is going to
great lengths to avoid the _appearance_ of hypocrisy.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how much that boat cost to
build and operate. I'll be the yearly operational costs are more
than most people make.

It must be nice to be able to "take a year off" and sail the world.
a luxury few people have, and even fewer will have in the future if
she gets her way.

She asks people to use less fossil fuels, not to miss meals.

The greens do, in fact, want to make people eat things they
consider more friendly to the environment. That means no meat, no
processed foods of any kind, etc.

She is, BTW, vegan, and wants you to be as well - probably with the
same "I can't control my emotions because having a temper tantrum
like a two year old with a dirty diaper has always gotten me what I
want" enthusaism.

"In a video posted online, the Swedish climate activist urged
people to change what they eat, warning bluntly: “If we don’t
change, we’re f****d.”"

So if you eat meat, or dairy products, or *anything* that involves
animals in the production, you are, according to Saint Greta, evil
and deserve to die.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:19:34 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

She is, BTW, vegan, and wants you to be as well - probably with the
same "I can't control my emotions because having a temper tantrum
like a two year old with a dirty diaper has always gotten me what I
want" enthusaism.

I hadn't noticed. You humans are all so emotionally demonstrative
that it is hard for me to tell the difference between subtle shadings
of that characteristic.

John Savard

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Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:4a9c94d0-ce46-4b03-b298-d9d2c2e2e8a3n@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:19:34 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

She is, BTW, vegan, and wants you to be as well - probably with
the same "I can't control my emotions because having a temper
tantrum like a two year old with a dirty diaper has always
gotten me what I want" enthusaism.

I hadn't noticed.

You weren't told to by your betters.

You humans are all so emotionally
demonstrative that it is hard for me to tell the difference
between subtle shadings of that characteristic.

Are you drinking while posting again? Or is your goal - as usual - to
not make sense,.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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https://media.giphy.com/media/U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK/giphy.gif

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On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 6:41:12 PM UTC, Quadibloc wrote:

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:19:34 AM UTC-6, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

She is, BTW, vegan, and wants you to be as well - probably with the
same "I can't control my emotions because having a temper tantrum
like a two year old with a dirty diaper has always gotten me what I
want" enthusaism.

I hadn't noticed. You humans are all so emotionally demonstrative
that it is hard for me to tell the difference between subtle shadings
of that characteristic.

John Savard

Since you decided you are not human, you brought your side of the newsgroup to a new low.

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