• Are we all living in a hallucination?

    From StarDust@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 11 01:25:40 2022
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?

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  • From wAYNE@21:1/5 to StarDust on Tue Oct 11 21:00:32 2022
    On 10/11/22 4:25 AM, StarDust wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?

    Perhaps your quantum signature does not match the universe to which you
    belong. Essentially, that might mean that you experience a different
    reality dependent upon your universe. So that you begin experiencing a
    proper reality (what everyone else is experiencing), you must find some
    way of purging yourself from your current reality and matching your
    quantum signature with the universe to which you belong. However, in
    doing so, the uncertainty principle may apply. You might find yourself
    many years in the past, or many years in the future. There's no way to
    tell for sure. Now just transferring yourself from your current
    universe into your default one (the one matching your signature) is a monumental task in itself and I know of no current technology or method
    that can perform the task.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 11 21:59:22 2022
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently, through
    our individual, unique interpreters.

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  • From kelleher.gerald@gmail.com@21:1/5 to StarDust on Wed Oct 12 00:37:26 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:25:41 AM UTC+1, StarDust wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?


    In a way a lot of people live out a computer generated hallucination called climate change modelling. Even though perceptive fiction, the early emergence of computer modelling was recognised, even in an entertaining way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQ1ITS94cA

    People who are mesmerised find it difficult to escape the hallucination because it is framed as exciting and novel with dire consequences attached. In such an atmosphere, it is impossible to discuss planetary climate and its core in planetary dynamics,
    at least that what I have found through experience.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Wed Oct 12 16:24:33 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:59:26 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT), >https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?
    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently, through
    our individual, unique interpreters.

    For example, we see the sky blue, just because that's how the air breaks up light, filters it in a certain wavelength, recorded by our brain.
    But is it really blue?
    Dog or cat may see it differently?

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Wed Oct 12 16:50:17 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently, through
    our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I might
    find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to me. And yet,
    whatever our subjective worlds look like, two different people
    can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a game of Cribbage,
    without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality to each
    brain... if not identical, are at least sufficiently near isomorphism
    that humans can co-operate within their shared physical reality.

    John Savard

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to wAYNE on Wed Oct 12 16:21:06 2022
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:00:35 PM UTC-7, wAYNE wrote:
    On 10/11/22 4:25 AM, StarDust wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?
    Perhaps your quantum signature does not match the universe to which you belong. Essentially, that might mean that you experience a different
    reality dependent upon your universe. So that you begin experiencing a
    proper reality (what everyone else is experiencing), you must find some
    way of purging yourself from your current reality and matching your
    quantum signature with the universe to which you belong. However, in
    doing so, the uncertainty principle may apply. You might find yourself
    many years in the past, or many years in the future. There's no way to
    tell for sure. Now just transferring yourself from your current
    universe into your default one (the one matching your signature) is a monumental task in itself and I know of no current technology or method
    that can perform the task.

    WTF is quantum signature?
    Did God sign my atomic nucleases?

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to kellehe...@gmail.com on Wed Oct 12 16:28:40 2022
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:37:28 AM UTC-7, kellehe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:25:41 AM UTC+1, StarDust wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?
    In a way a lot of people live out a computer generated hallucination called climate change modelling. Even though perceptive fiction, the early emergence of computer modelling was recognised, even in an entertaining way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQ1ITS94cA

    People who are mesmerised find it difficult to escape the hallucination because it is framed as exciting and novel with dire consequences attached. In such an atmosphere, it is impossible to discuss planetary climate and its core in planetary dynamics,
    at least that what I have found through experience.

    Well, the media are masters of distorting human perception of the world.
    In the movie Matrix, Morpheus said:
    You have to see it for yourself." "The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."

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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Thu Oct 13 01:03:11 2022
    Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:7909dad7-696b-4adb-9577-b1eb87c4c95en@googlegroups.com:

    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L
    Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently,
    through our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I might
    find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to me. And
    yet, whatever our subjective worlds look like, two different
    people can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a game of
    Cribbage, without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality to
    each brain... if not identical, are at least sufficiently near
    isomorphism that humans can co-operate within their shared
    physical reality.

    It doesn't matter if the appearance of that reality is the same, or
    compeletely different. What matters is that we, communicating begins,
    use the same language to describe it. If what looks red to one person
    looks blue to another, it doesn't matter at all if they both *call*
    it green because that's what society has agreed on.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to Ninapenda Jibini on Wed Oct 12 18:47:05 2022
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
    Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:7909dad7-696b-4adb...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L
    Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently,
    through our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I might
    find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to me. And
    yet, whatever our subjective worlds look like, two different
    people can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a game of
    Cribbage, without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality to
    each brain... if not identical, are at least sufficiently near
    isomorphism that humans can co-operate within their shared
    physical reality.

    It doesn't matter if the appearance of that reality is the same, or compeletely different. What matters is that we, communicating begins,
    use the same language to describe it. If what looks red to one person
    looks blue to another, it doesn't matter at all if they both *call*
    it green because that's what society has agreed on.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    That's how fake idles are created!
    The burning bush is GOD for example!

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  • From palsing@21:1/5 to StarDust on Wed Oct 12 20:53:41 2022
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:47:07 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
    Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:7909dad7-696b-4adb...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L
    Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently,
    through our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I might
    find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to me. And
    yet, whatever our subjective worlds look like, two different
    people can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a game of
    Cribbage, without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality to
    each brain... if not identical, are at least sufficiently near isomorphism that humans can co-operate within their shared
    physical reality.

    It doesn't matter if the appearance of that reality is the same, or compeletely different. What matters is that we, communicating begins,
    use the same language to describe it. If what looks red to one person
    looks blue to another, it doesn't matter at all if they both *call*
    it green because that's what society has agreed on.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    That's how fake idles are created!

    Idles?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to palsing on Thu Oct 13 05:35:06 2022
    palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote in news:5a66d5ab-92b3-4605-bbdc-f4cf99031318n@googlegroups.com:

    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:47:07 PM UTC-7, StarDust
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda
    Jibini wrote:
    Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
    news:7909dad7-696b-4adb...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L
    Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it
    differently, through our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I
    might find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to
    me. And yet, whatever our subjective worlds look like, two
    different people can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a
    game of Cribbage, without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality
    to each brain... if not identical, are at least
    sufficiently near isomorphism that humans can co-operate
    within their shared physical reality.

    It doesn't matter if the appearance of that reality is the
    same, or compeletely different. What matters is that we,
    communicating begins, use the same language to describe it.
    If what looks red to one person looks blue to another, it
    doesn't matter at all if they both *call* it green because
    that's what society has agreed on.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider
    than Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more
    asshole." -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    That's how fake idles are created!

    Idles?

    Probably related to the voices he hears in his head when he doesn't
    take his meds.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 06:12:21 2022
    On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:24:33 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:59:26 PM UTC-7, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT),
    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cjqx25/are-we-all-living-in-a-hallucination-

    Our brain constantly interprets the information it receives from the world. Does that mean we are all experiencing different realities?
    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently, through
    our individual, unique interpreters.

    For example, we see the sky blue, just because that's how the air breaks up light, filters it in a certain wavelength, recorded by our brain.
    But is it really blue?
    Dog or cat may see it differently?

    "Blue" is just a symbol your brain uses.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to palsing on Thu Oct 13 21:31:33 2022
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 8:53:43 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:47:07 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 6:03:14 PM UTC-7, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
    Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:7909dad7-696b-4adb...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:59:26 PM UTC-6, Chris L
    Peterson wrote:

    There's only one "reality". We just experience it differently,
    through our individual, unique interpreters.

    Yes. It may be that if I could read my neighbor's mind, I might
    find out that blue looks to him the way red looks to me. And
    yet, whatever our subjective worlds look like, two different
    people can sit down to play a game of Chess, or a game of
    Cribbage, without encountering difficulty.

    There is one reality, and the appearances of that reality to
    each brain... if not identical, are at least sufficiently near isomorphism that humans can co-operate within their shared
    physical reality.

    It doesn't matter if the appearance of that reality is the same, or compeletely different. What matters is that we, communicating begins,
    use the same language to describe it. If what looks red to one person looks blue to another, it doesn't matter at all if they both *call*
    it green because that's what society has agreed on.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    That's how fake idles are created!
    Idles?

    Yes, idols!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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