https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!Just more evidence people know nothing about this science. If they did, it would have been seen as the joke it was.
He left out the bacon!
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!Just more evidence people know nothing about this science. If they did, it would have been seen as the joke it was.
He left out the bacon!
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webb-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!Just more evidence people know nothing about this science. If they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
He left out the bacon!
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webJust more evidence people know nothing about this science. If
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual job, then
more people WOULD know about science.
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webJust more evidence people know nothing about this science. If
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual job, thenI believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist with those
more people WOULD know about science.
of an educator. Which says far more about you than it does about
scientists or educators.
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:I believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist with
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-Just more evidence people know nothing about this science.
web b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
If they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual job,
then more people WOULD know about science.
those of an educator. Which says far more about you than it
does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with the
territory.
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:😂😎🤪
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-webJust more evidence people know nothing about this science. If
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual job, thenI believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist with those
more people WOULD know about science.
of an educator. Which says far more about you than it does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with the territory.
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3e32cbb9-6b0e-4068...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini
wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:I believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist with
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posts-Just more evidence people know nothing about this science.
web b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
If they did, it would have >been seen as the joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual job,
then more people WOULD know about science.
those of an educator. Which says far more about you than it
does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with the
territory.
You are mistaken. I'm not surprised.
😂😎🤪
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:25:57 AM UTC-4, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3e32cbb9-6b0e-4068...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, NinapendaYou are mistaken. I'm not surprised.
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichAI believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist
wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posJust more evidence people know nothing about this
ts- web
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
science. If they did, it would have >been seen as the
joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual
job, then more people WOULD know about science.
with those of an educator. Which says far more about you
than it does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with the
territory.
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and
paid by educational institutions and governments.
They need to
earn their keep.
Don't blame the public for the poor job that scientists are
doing to educate.
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8c520b31-51b3-423e...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:25:57 AM UTC-4, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3e32cbb9-6b0e-4068...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, NinapendaYou are mistaken. I'm not surprised.
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichAI believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist
wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-posJust more evidence people know nothing about this
ts- web
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
science. If they did, it would have >been seen as the
joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual
job, then more people WOULD know about science.
with those of an educator. Which says far more about you
than it does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with the
territory.
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained andSo are janitors. Are you claiming they are educators, too?
paid by educational institutions and governments.
Probably.
They need toIf they earn their keep educating, they become educators. They may
earn their keep.
*also* be scientists, at the same time, but they are still
different jobs.
Don't blame the public for the poor job that scientists are
doing to educate.
I don't blame the public for scientists doing a poor job at
something that _not their job_. The blame for a poor job of
educating the public lies with educators, which is a different job
than scientist.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:47:15 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8c520b31-51b3-423e...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:25:57 AM UTC-4, NinapendaSo are janitors. Are you claiming they are educators, too?
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3e32cbb9-6b0e-4068...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-4, NinapendaYou are mistaken. I'm not surprised.
Jibini wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:081a53c9-b91b-468f...@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:13:48 PM UTC-4, RichAI believe you're confusing the job duties of a scientist
wrote:
On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 01:37:31 UTC-4, StarDust
wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-etienne-klein-Just more evidence people know nothing about this
pos ts- web
b-telescope-image-star-actually-slice-chorizo-apology
/
Yea Haw!
He left out the bacon!
science. If they did, it would have >been seen as the
joke it was.
If the scientist in question had been doing his actual
job, then more people WOULD know about science.
with those of an educator. Which says far more about you
than it does about scientists or educators.
One of a scientist's duties is to educate. It comes with
the territory.
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and
paid by educational institutions and governments.
Probably.
They need toIf they earn their keep educating, they become educators. They
earn their keep.
may *also* be scientists, at the same time, but they are still
different jobs.
I don't blame the public for scientists doing a poor job at
Don't blame the public for the poor job that scientists are
doing to educate.
something that _not their job_. The blame for a poor job of
educating the public lies with educators, which is a different
job than scientist.
You are wrong on all counts.
Janitors are paid to clean buildings.
Educators are paid to educate.
Scientists are also paid to educate.
If scientists make discoveries, they must (eventually, and
sooner rather than later) share those with the world and explain
what they are doing, both to other scientists and to everyone
else. That would be called education.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
{snip}
You had better get a clue, jackass.
Yes, scientists must educate. That is part of their job.
If they don't then they ultimately have zero purpose.
When you snip out everything, the only rational assumption is that
you know you can't dispute any of it.
Thanks for admittimg I'm right.
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and paid by educational institutions and governments. They need to earn their keep.
The blame for a poor job of
educating the public lies with educators, which is a different job
than scientist.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 11:13:12 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:
When you snip out everything, the only rational assumption is
that you know you can't dispute any of it.
Thanks for admittimg I'm right.
You can't even *****ng spell.
And you are still wrong.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:29:20 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and
paid by educational institutions and governments. They need to
earn their keep.
Terry Austin is rude and annoying. That doesn't prevent him from
being right.
It is true that one of the jobs of a *professor* is to educate.
And many of our best scientists are tenured professors at
colleges and universities.
However, the job of a scientist working for IBM or Bell Labs is
to do research, not necessarily to educate anyone.
And a professor's job is to educate *his students*. Students
studying science in the university he works at. That's not the
same as educating the public.
That's why we only have a *few* people like Carl Sagan and Neil
de Grasse Tyson.
Educating the public _was_ their job. But they got paid for
doing that job by TV stations and publishers. Although, to be
fair, Neil de Grasse Tyson's job was to educate the public even
before he became a celebrity, since he was the director of a
planetarium.
However, while what I've said so far claims that you're wrong, I
have to acknowledge that in another sense you're right. After
all, while educating the public may not be part of a scientist's
"job", in the sense of that for which he gets a paycheck, there
is also that thing called "civic duty".
And in that sense, scientists _do_ have a civic duty to make
efforts in the direction of achieving a more
scientifically-literate American public, and the need for this
has perhaps never been more urgent.
I am not at all sure, though, that you are of the political
persuasion that will appreciate the results if they do more
consicientiously practise this civic duty, and doing so bears
fruit.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 3:47:15 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
The blame for a poor job of
educating the public lies with educators, which is a different
job than scientist.
Couldn't the blame for a poor job of educating the public lie
with _politicians_ who cut budgets for schools, or pass laws
preventing teachers from teaching the truth?
I mean, sure, if the nation's teachers were slacking off, it
would cause a problem, but there _is_ plenty of visible evidence
in favor of the alternative explanation that I've noted.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:29:20 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and paid by educational institutions and governments. They need to earn their keep.Terry Austin is rude and annoying. That doesn't prevent him from being right.
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:29:20 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained and paid by educational institutions and governments. They need to earn their keep.Terry Austin is rude and annoying. That doesn't prevent him from being right.
Except that he isn't right.
On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:07:12 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc
wrote:
On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:29:20 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
Nope, YOU are mistaken. Scientists are primarily trained andTerry Austin is rude and annoying. That doesn't prevent him
paid by educational institutions and governments. They need
to earn their keep.
from being right.
Except that he isn't right.
And the crap of yours that I just edited out is
also wrong.
A PhD (in science) who works for a large company is not
necessarily a scientist, any more than a PhD who drives a cab.
Go learn what a scientist actual is, before crapping on anything
else that I say.
BTW, YOU are rude and annoying.
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