https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! Quite fascinating!
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.What you perhaps didn't know that long before that he was most famous
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
for inventing the extremely sensitive electron capture detector
https://www.sciencehistory.org/james-lovelocks-electron-capture-detector
They are a core part of ultra trace organic analysis even today.
Somewhat improved on his prototype but he made a step change in the sensitivity available for ultra trace analysis.
It was exceptionally good for detecting CFC's in the upper atmosphere
and led indirectly to the Montreal protocol banning them.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! Quite fascinating!It is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or severely curtail
any species that takes the planet too far out of equilibrium and that includes us. Ants, cockroaches and rats will inherit the Earth!
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:41:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575for inventing the extremely sensitive electron capture detector
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet. >> What you perhaps didn't know that long before that he was most famous
https://www.sciencehistory.org/james-lovelocks-electron-capture-detector
They are a core part of ultra trace organic analysis even today.
Somewhat improved on his prototype but he made a step change in the
sensitivity available for ultra trace analysis.
It was exceptionally good for detecting CFC's in the upper atmosphere
and led indirectly to the Montreal protocol banning them.
It is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or severely curtail
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! >> > Quite fascinating!
any species that takes the planet too far out of equilibrium and that
includes us. Ants, cockroaches and rats will inherit the Earth!
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Maybe , returning to religion is the way to sustainability, balance and harmony with nature?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220726-how-religious-worship-is-boosting-conservation-in-india
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT), StarDust
wrote:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:41:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575What you perhaps didn't know that long before that he was most famous
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
for inventing the extremely sensitive electron capture detector
https://www.sciencehistory.org/james-lovelocks-electron-capture-detector >>
They are a core part of ultra trace organic analysis even today.
Somewhat improved on his prototype but he made a step change in the
sensitivity available for ultra trace analysis.
It was exceptionally good for detecting CFC's in the upper atmosphere
and led indirectly to the Montreal protocol banning them.
It is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or severely curtail
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! >> > Quite fascinating!
any species that takes the planet too far out of equilibrium and that
includes us. Ants, cockroaches and rats will inherit the Earth!
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Maybe , returning to religion is the way to sustainability, balance and harmony with nature?Religion always destroys, because it is based on falsehoods and is
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220726-how-religious-worship-is-boosting-conservation-in-india
inherently conservative (and conservatism always destroys).
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>[snip]
wrote:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:41:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! >>>> Quite fascinating!It is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or severely curtail
any species that takes the planet too far out of equilibrium and that
includes us. Ants, cockroaches and rats will inherit the Earth!
Maybe , returning to religion is the way to sustainability, balance and harmony with nature?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220726-how-religious-worship-is-boosting-conservation-in-india
Religion always destroys, because it is based on falsehoods and is
inherently conservative (and conservatism always destroys).
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, Martin Brown
wrote:
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on
extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone
else will pay later.
In order for your statement to carry any weight at all, you will
have to give a full and honest accounting of your own carbon
footprint, etc, so that it can be compared with those whom you
accuse of "trashing the planet."
Otherwise, be quiet.
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone else will pay later.
W <wsnell01@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:79536d48-c873-4f36-ae65-10f0a33936f5n@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, Martin BrownThe right's philosophy is "someone will pay later." The left's
wrote:
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on
extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone
else will pay later.
In order for your statement to carry any weight at all, you will
have to give a full and honest accounting of your own carbon
footprint, etc, so that it can be compared with those whom you
accuse of "trashing the planet."
Otherwise, be quiet.
philosohpy is "someone will pay now. You will. Give me all your
money. Now. Or else."
On 29/07/2022 14:42, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>[snip]
wrote:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:41:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! >>>>> Quite fascinating!It is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or severely curtail >>>> any species that takes the planet too far out of equilibrium and that
includes us. Ants, cockroaches and rats will inherit the Earth!
Maybe , returning to religion is the way to sustainability, balance and harmony with nature?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220726-how-religious-worship-is-boosting-conservation-in-india
Religion always destroys, because it is based on falsehoods and is
inherently conservative (and conservatism always destroys).
I'm not convinced that is entirely correct. Conservatism with a small c
means leaving the planet roughly the same state as you found it.
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on extremist >capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone else will pay later.
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 16:07:01 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsne...@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:79536d48-c873-4f36...@googlegroups.com:
There's a name for that "left" philosophy: fiscal conservatism.On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, Martin BrownThe right's philosophy is "someone will pay later." The left's
wrote:
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on
extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone
else will pay later.
In order for your statement to carry any weight at all, you will
have to give a full and honest accounting of your own carbon
footprint, etc, so that it can be compared with those whom you
accuse of "trashing the planet."
Otherwise, be quiet.
philosohpy is "someone will pay now. You will. Give me all your
money. Now. Or else."
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 19:55:56 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 29/07/2022 14:42, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT), StarDust[snip]
<csoka01@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:41:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 28/07/2022 06:17, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to
the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday,
his family has said.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory andIt is even quite plausible. Earth will kill off off or
I was bought! Quite fascinating!
severely curtail any species that takes the planet too far
out of equilibrium and that includes us. Ants, cockroaches
and rats will inherit the Earth!
Maybe , returning to religion is the way to sustainability,
balance and harmony with nature?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220726-how-religious-wors
hip-is-boosting-conservation-in-india
Religion always destroys, because it is based on falsehoods
and is inherently conservative (and conservatism always
destroys).
I'm not convinced that is entirely correct. Conservatism with a
small c means leaving the planet roughly the same state as you
found it.
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on
extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone
else will pay later.
Conservatism in its modern political sense is about moving
backward, and always away from societal norms. It is always
destructive.
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 16:07:01 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
W <wsnell01@hotmail.com> wrote in >>news:79536d48-c873-4f36-ae65-10f0a33936f5n@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 2:56:02 PM UTC-4, Martin BrownThe right's philosophy is "someone will pay later." The left's
wrote:
Trashing the planet for fun and profit is the US way based on
extremist capitalism - eat drink and be merry because someone
else will pay later.
In order for your statement to carry any weight at all, you
will have to give a full and honest accounting of your own
carbon footprint, etc, so that it can be compared with those
whom you accuse of "trashing the planet."
Otherwise, be quiet.
philosohpy is "someone will pay now. You will. Give me all your
money. Now. Or else."
There's a name for that "left" philosophy: fiscal conservatism.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! Quite fascinating!
On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 01:17:10 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought! Quite fascinating!Too bad his core belief was wrong. There is no "tipping point." There is only change and it's always happening.
The cranks promote the idea that going up in temp a bit would lead to an irreversible or "runaway" condition. B.S.
The past has seen MUCH higher temps and they always shifted down and then up. What enrages these agenda-driven
enviro-socialists is that natural effects ultimate determine which way things go, not man.
On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 01:17:10 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62322575
British scientist James Lovelock, who devoted his life to the global green movement, has died on his 103rd birthday, his family has said.
His 1960s Gaia theory Earth, from rocks to air, was one huge interconnected and self-regulating system formed the basis of much of climate science.
And he had warned climate change could be a tipping point for the planet.
Back in the 90s, I read his book about the Gaia theory and I was bought!
Quite fascinating!
Too bad his core belief was wrong. There is no "tipping point." There is only change and it's always happening.
The cranks promote the idea that going up in temp a bit would lead to an irreversible or "runaway" condition. B.S.
The past has seen MUCH higher temps and they always shifted down and then up. What enrages these agenda-driven
enviro-socialists is that natural effects ultimate determine which way things go, not man.
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