The members of Pink Floyd were always arrogant, they had a right to be. What Waters said is true and what IS true is that 99% of pop today is forgettable and will not be remembered and is of no real significance to music..

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/privileged-white-boomer-fans-upset-over-roger-waters-comment-about-the-weeknd-drake/ar-AAZHUBH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=26d0b42c354c41a4a0c33725ccfc3a15

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On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

The members of Pink Floyd were always arrogant, they had a right to be. What Waters said is true and what IS true is that 99% of pop today is forgettable and will not be remembered and is of no real significance to music..

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/privileged-white-boomer-fans-upset-over-roger-waters-comment-about-the-weeknd-drake/ar-AAZHUBH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=26d0b42c354c41a4a0c33725ccfc3a15

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

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RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote in news:c567f9c0-6da6-4ae8-9c12-4904a271f6b8n@googlegroups.com:

The members of Pink Floyd were always arrogant, they had a right
to be. What Waters said is true and what IS true is that 99% of
pop today is forgettable and will not be remembered and is of no
real significance to music..

Remove the word "today" and substitute "everything" for "pop" and
this statement is just as true. Sturgeon was an optomist.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

That may well be true 100 billion years from now. However, I am inclined to consider such pessimism premature, and to avoid setting limits to how long
we shall be able to ensure that Euler and Gauss, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler and Newton, and various others too numerous to list here (such as Albert Einstein, Srinivasa Ramanujan, Kurt Godel, Evariste Galois...), shall be remembered.

However, 100 years from now, it may well be that while the Beatles, and even Led Zeppelin,
Def Leppard, and Pink Floyd, are still remembered, Drake and the Weeknd will be largely
forgotten. I am happy to concede _this_ to Roger Waters; in the field of music, it is the
memory of such people as Johann Sebastian Bach that will outlive his.

John Savard

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On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:20:51 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:

The members of Pink Floyd were always arrogant, they had a right to be. What Waters said is true and what IS true is that 99% of pop today is forgettable and will not be remembered and is of no real significance to music..

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/privileged-white-boomer-fans-upset-over-roger-waters-comment-about-the-weeknd-drake/ar-AAZHUBH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=26d0b42c354c41a4a0c33725ccfc3a15

Pink Floyd is a counter culture music , (We don't need no education) which still going strong, because the liberal politics world wide and liberal mass media.
Back than it was called progressive music, using heavy synthesizors, organs and rock style guitar leads, lyrics attacking the establishment.
Bands like ELP, Yes , Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple etc....
These band's music still sell strong, create new , young fans, even though don't exist anymore or members are gone to heaven!

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On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

That may well be true 100 billion years from now.

That's a given. I imagine the timeline could be as short as a few
thousand years, or as long as a few hundred thousand.

Nothing pessimistic abut it, though. Just the reality of the course of existence of species.

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On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 9:20:51 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:

The members of ____ were always arrogant, they had a right to be.

...cut...

If that band member actually said what the article claims, then the band is now permanently gone from my "playlist" of music.

There are plenty of much newer and better bands and music out there, in my opinion.

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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:12:45 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

If that band member actually said what the article claims, then the band is now permanently gone from my "playlist" of music.

There are plenty of much newer and better bands and music out there, in my opinion.

That may be.

However, my list of musical acts "better" than Pink Floyd would
probably not include Drake or the Weeknd. Instead, there is
Diana Krall, for example.

Since Pink Floyd was _very_ successful in its day, Roger Waters wasn't
being egotistical in claiming that his group was more significant in the history of music than these modern ones. However, a tour by a currently
popular group _is_ of more interest than a retrospective comeback tour
of a group that was popular ages ago, so while I can understand his
annoyance at not getting a review, yes, he was not being entirely
objective and realistic.

John Savard

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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:22:44 AM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:12:45 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

If that band member actually said what the article claims, then the band is now permanently gone from my "playlist" of music.

There are plenty of much newer and better bands and music out there, in my opinion.

That may be.

However, my list of musical acts "better" than Pink Floyd would
probably not include Drake or the Weeknd. Instead, there is
Diana Krall, for example.

Since Pink Floyd was _very_ successful in its day, Roger Waters wasn't
being egotistical in claiming that his group was more significant in the history of music than these modern ones. However, a tour by a currently popular group _is_ of more interest than a retrospective comeback tour
of a group that was popular ages ago, so while I can understand his annoyance at not getting a review, yes, he was not being entirely
objective and realistic.

John Savard

Success is also measured in MONEY!
Roger Water's net worth is $300 million!
👍

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On Tuesday, 19 July 2022 at 08:49:41 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

That may well be true 100 billion years from now.

That's a given. I imagine the timeline could be as short as a few
thousand years, or as long as a few hundred thousand.

Nothing pessimistic abut it, though. Just the reality of the course of existence of species.

We still remember people from the dawn of history, no reason why we should forget them over time if records in some fashion are kept and updated, but the "oral tradition" is important to. But, if we evolve into some kind of creatures that have no use
for the past, who knows?

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 13:22:47 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 July 2022 at 08:49:41 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 7:35:43 PM UTC-6, Chris L Peterson wrote:

100% of humans will not be remembered, because there will be none to
remember them.

That may well be true 100 billion years from now.

That's a given. I imagine the timeline could be as short as a few
thousand years, or as long as a few hundred thousand.

Nothing pessimistic abut it, though. Just the reality of the course of
existence of species.

We still remember people from the dawn of history, no reason why we should forget them over time if records in some fashion are kept and updated, but the "oral tradition" is important to. But, if we evolve into some kind of creatures that have no use

for the past, who knows?

We remember names. Often we don't even know if they were real people
(e.g. Jesus).

But my point is that we're unlikely to be here at all in thousands of
years, and if we are, we'll have collapsed back to the stone age more
than once, which means everything gets forgotten.

If we survive the next few centuries, we'll be managing our own
evolution. It will no longer be a natural process.

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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 2:22:44 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:12:45 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

If that band member actually said what the article claims, then the band is now permanently gone from my "playlist" of music.

There are plenty of much newer and better bands and music out there, in my opinion.

That may be.

No, not "may be," there ARE much better bands and music, in my opinion.

If a musician starts getting arrogant, I can easily choose other music that I like better than whatever it is that he is selling.

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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 2:22:44 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

However, my list of musical acts "better" than Pink Floyd would
probably not include Drake or the Weeknd. Instead, there is
Diana Krall, for example.

You do know that there are many other bands and songwriters than just the ones that have been mentioned?

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On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 2:22:44 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

Since Pink Floyd was _very_ successful in its day, Roger Waters wasn't
being egotistical in claiming that his group was more significant in the history of music than these modern ones. However, a tour by a currently popular group _is_ of more interest than a retrospective comeback tour
of a group that was popular ages ago, so while I can understand his
annoyance at not getting a review, yes, he was not being entirely
objective and realistic.

So every time that a reviewer talks about a band other than Pink Floyd, he also needs to mention Pink Floyd?

Maybe every media outlet should have a designated Pink Floyd commentator on call to give praise to PF whenever another band dares to exist, just to keep things balanced.

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On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 4:07:41 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

You do know that there are many other bands and songwriters
than just the ones that have been mentioned?

Oh, yes. But not necessarily from any personal acquaintance
with their music. Given that Pink Floyd is an example of the kind
of music that I _don't_ listen to (and Drake and the Weeknd are
both even more so) as illustrated by my choice of Diana Krall
as an example of a contemporary artist...

even though I might occasionally stray as far as Led Zeppelin
(Stairway to Heaven) or The Eagles (Hotel California), my musical
tastes for the most part are firmly rooted in the distant past.

Percy Faith. Bert Kaempfert. Perry Como. Jo Stafford. Need I
go on?

Recent stuff? ABBA. Richard Clayderman. *That's* what I can
think of off the top of my head.

Of course, there's also *both* of those guys named John Williams...

John Savard

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On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 4:14:42 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

So every time that a reviewer talks about a band other
than Pink Floyd, he also needs to mention Pink Floyd?

The complaint was that Pink Floyd was in town, but because
it was a one-night stand, and apparently the newspaper only
had one reviewer, the reviewer didn't think to attend the Pink
Floyd concert when he had a chance, and leave Drake and/or
the Weeknd, who would be playing for two or more days, until
the next day.

The statement that Pink Floyd was more important in its
day than Drake and the Weeknd are now isn't arrogance, it's
a fact. A bit of arrogance comes in, though... because Roger
Waters forgot what "in its day" meant - and that acts currently
popular with today's teenagers might sell more newspapers
than acts of interest to... adults, many of whom now have
other interests than the music they passionately listened to
when they were young.

Based on what I've read - and I admit I haven't followed the
story closely - while I would criticize him for a lack of perspective,
this isn't arrogance on the scale of the Beatle's "We're more
popular than Jesus Christ"; it's not something that would
severely diminish my opinion of him as a human being, if I
knew him well enough to have one.

John Savard

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On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 11:00:32 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 4:14:42 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

So every time that a reviewer talks about a band other
than Pink Floyd, he also needs to mention Pink Floyd?

The complaint was that Pink Floyd was in town, but because
it was a one-night stand, and apparently the newspaper only
had one reviewer, the reviewer didn't think to attend the Pink
Floyd concert when he had a chance, and leave Drake and/or
the Weeknd, who would be playing for two or more days, until
the next day.

The statement that Pink Floyd was more important in its
day than Drake and the Weeknd are now isn't arrogance, it's
a fact. A bit of arrogance comes in, though... because Roger
Waters forgot what "in its day" meant - and that acts currently
popular with today's teenagers might sell more newspapers
than acts of interest to... adults, many of whom now have
other interests than the music they passionately listened to
when they were young.

Based on what I've read - and I admit I haven't followed the
story closely - while I would criticize him for a lack of perspective,
this isn't arrogance on the scale of the Beatle's "We're more
popular than Jesus Christ"; it's not something that would
severely diminish my opinion of him as a human being, if I
knew him well enough to have one.

I can think of dozens of bands that should be reviewed instead of PF, if there were to be a conflict on a particular night.

PF is a known quantity, while some newer or lesser-known bands might interest people who are on the lookout for new sounds and new music.

It amounts to "journalistic malpractice" to cater to PF while ignoring something new.

New. That's why the publication is called a NEWspaper.

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