XPost: soc.culture.south-africa, soc.history

On Tue, 12 Sep 00 10:48:57 GMT, w.j.markerink@a1.nl (Willem-Jan
Markerink) wrote:

In article <39bb67a1.0@news1.mweb.co.za>,
"Sabsy" <sabsy@my-deja.com> wrote:

"Steve Hayes" <khanyaiis@global.co.za> wrote in message >>news:39bb3e0c.12750756@news.worldonline.co.za...

It is defamatory because it is mostly used by white racists to belittle
blacks.

I am not aware of that. The term I know to be derogatory is "nigger" and

not

Negroid.

It's used so frequently for that purpose nowadays that to my ears it
sounds a lot worse than milder terms like "kaffir" and "nigger".

We have to be careful to find everything derogatory even if it is not >>intended as such. Negroid is a proper deravative if Negro, while Nigger is >>an improper derivative of Negro. I have no problem in being referred to as

a

Negro, except that I am not one.

Doesn't 'kaffir' have a neutral origin too?
I am not saying one should use it today, but your argumentation is >selective....

Well it's a derogatory trerm for a non-Muslim -- hardly neutral.

Are you a Muslim?

If not you are kafir.

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XPost: soc.culture.south-africa, soc.history, alt.history
XPost: za.politics

On Sun, 10 Sep 00 21:44:32 GMT, w.j.markerink@a1.nl (Willem-Jan
Markerink) wrote:

In article <8pdn0m$snh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, mnantczak@my-deja.com wrote:

In article <8pcks9$kna$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
Eriavierta <md_kennedy@yahoo.com> wrote:

People who want to control what other pople say and think are the
scarriest of all. Wasn't Mandella inprisioned for politcal speech?

I recall the main reason for his imprisonment was a call for
violence, and the subsequent refusal to abstain from it in public....that's
a bit different, eh?

Well things have changed a bit since then.

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