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  • attack on David Attenborough "Waterside Ape"

    From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to m_verhaegen@skynet.be on Mon Oct 3 13:36:16 2016
    m_verhaegen@skynet.be wrote:

    http://aquatic-human-ancestor.org/evidence/ waterside-ape-bbc-r4-response-to-critics.html

    They're using Attenborough as an authority? Someone should
    tell them that he's a filmmaker, not a evolutionist or an
    anthropologist or a paleontologist. He and his crew make
    beautiful documentaries, then he spoils then with his
    narrations, full if that teleological nonsense he thinks
    is ecolutionary science.

    I remember Desmond Morris pushing that aquatic evolution idea
    in a book called "The Naked Ape" back in the nineteen seventies:
    it was nonsense then, and it hasn't improved.

    If you look at the timelines implied by some of those purported
    evidences, you might wonder why it is that Chimpanzees don't
    show the same "adaptions".

    Ned

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  • From Laura@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Mon Oct 17 16:24:41 2016
    On 10/3/16 6:36 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
    m_verhaegen@skynet.be wrote:

    http://aquatic-human-ancestor.org/evidence/
    waterside-ape-bbc-r4-response-to-critics.html

    They're using Attenborough as an authority? Someone should
    tell them that he's a filmmaker, not a evolutionist or an
    anthropologist or a paleontologist. He and his crew make
    beautiful documentaries, then he spoils then with his
    narrations, full if that teleological nonsense he thinks
    is ecolutionary science.

    I remember Desmond Morris pushing that aquatic evolution idea
    in a book called "The Naked Ape" back in the nineteen seventies:
    it was nonsense then, and it hasn't improved.

    If you look at the timelines implied by some of those purported
    evidences, you might wonder why it is that Chimpanzees don't
    show the same "adaptions".

    Ned

    I don't remember "The Naked Ape," or the two sequels, as pushing the
    aquatic ape theory. His theory was that human beings evolved the way
    they did in response to their desire to have sex. I read another book
    called "The Aquatic Ape" written by a woman, whose name I have forgotten...maybe, Elaine something? I found THAT whole theory
    ridiculous, especially when she suggested as "proof" of the theory that
    human beings have sex facing each other. I think anyone who has tried
    having sex in water over their head knows that one risks drowning
    attempting this! (Yes, I did try this in my wild younger days!)

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  • From m_verhaegen@skynet.be@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 3 04:22:55 2016
    http://aquatic-human-ancestor.org/evidence/waterside-ape-bbc-r4-response-to-critics.html

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 8 08:52:26 2018
    Latham is unscientific & obsolete.
    Please inform before saying something.
    Google e.g.
    "Aquatic Ape Theory 2017 made easy" or
    "Ape and Human Evolution 2018 made easy.
    The greatests paleo-anthropologists realize that human evolution has always been waterside, and that the savanna fantasy is just a far-fetched anthropocentrism, just see what Phillip Tobias said about it.
    David Attenborough is indeed an authority, not teleological at all, but a darwinian & non-anthropocentric scientist.
    Desmond Morris mentioned (not pushed!) Hardy's idea, not in the 1970s, but on 2 pages of his "The naked Ape" (1967 IIRC).
    Inform a bit, Latham.

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