Pandora wrote:

Op 25-12-2023 om 10:54 schreef Marc Verhaegen:

Op maandag 25 december 2023 om 00:57:00 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable: >>> Back in 2020:

https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-remarkable-skulls-of-drimolen/ >>> What happened is that they found a skull, it was by no means what so ever >>> an erectus skull and the speculation went like this:

: the small skull was that of a hominin, not of a baboon, as had
previously
: been suggested along with buck, hyaena, and others.

AND THEN A STUDENT decided that it was closest to erectus. Which is
stupid.
Actually, he became a Phd candidate AFTER he made his determination...
Funny how not a one "Expert" saw an erectus skull, but everyone is onboard >>> with the determination of an undergraduate...
It's just another example of PROPAGANDA being pushed as science.
It's rubbish.
The Out of Africa purity gospels are threatened by Asian finds, so we have >>> to ignore the Asian finds and invent African finds...
And here you are, rehashing old "Finds" in order to troll for a stupid and >>> thoroughly refuted theory...
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/s6luqxT55zU/m/ajRu2ASmBAAJ

That's just shy of two years old.

Yes, most likely it was a male Au.robustus cf.
- its cranial capacity (larger than in female robustus, but only half as
large as in erectus),
- no pachyosteosclerosis >< H.erectus:
only kudu runners think it was their ancestor...  :-D

"DNH 134 is strikingly similar to the Mojokerto H. erectus cranium in
overall cranial shape (Fig.4)"

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaw7293#F4

What's the logic here?
Well, if Mojokerto is H. erectus and DNH 134 is strikingly similar in
overall cranial shape then DNH 134 is most likely also H. erectus.

From the very start of the paper:

"The DNH 134 cranium shares clear affinities with Homo
erectus..."

Of interest

"DNH 134 comprises a partial neurocranium that
preserves most of the occipital squama, parietals,
and frontal squama, with no evidence of plastic
deformation. The cranial sutures are patent and
at an early stage of fusion, indicating that the
specimen is a juvenile."

"At ~2.04 Ma ago (minimum age 1.95 Ma), DNH 134 is
the most complete and oldest early Pleistocene
Homo neurocranium in South Africa (Fig. 1). DNH 134
is at least 100,000 to 150,000 years older than H.
erectus s.l. specimens from Dmanisi (73) and over
300,000 years older than the KNM-ER-3733 cranium
from Kenya at ~1.63 Ma old (74). ... As such,
DNH 134 represents the oldest fossil with
affinities to H. erectus in the world. Despite
this, we do not assert that the species necessarily
evolved first in southern Africa, especially given
major geological biases in hominin finds across
Africa. However, the dating of the DNH 134 cranium
to >1.95 Ma ago substantially weakens the hypothesis
that H. erectus sensu lato evolved outside of Africa."

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