The term "aquatic ape" perhaps gives some people wrong impressions, but it's not wrong: human Pleistocene ancestors were very aquatic, and in a sense we belong to the apes.
Let everybody chose for themselves: in "AAT"
the 1st "A" = amphibious/aquatic/aquarboreal/...?
the 2nd "A" = ape/ancestor/...?
In any case, the comparative anatomy of erectus leaves no doubt:
H.erectus was a slow-shallow diver, probably mostly for shellfish:
H.erectus was very aquatic (even sleeping & copulating & birthing??), very unlike today's apes, possibly often wading bipedally, but rarely if ever throwing or running.
The differences between erectus & sapiens = diving vs wading/walking: H.sapiens evolved (only 300-200 ka?) e.g.
-very different eye direction (to look ventrally instead of rostrally): -basi-cranial flexion (turns the face+eyes ventrally)
-chin (attachment of oral muscles? loss of prognathism?)
-flat face & smaller nose (loss of prognathism)
-foramen magnum more inferiorly, less posteriorly on skull base
-loss of SOT (supra-orbital torus):
-high & round forehead (consequence of basi-cranial flexion):
-loss of platycephaly
-loss of pachyosteosclerosis (+-no diving any more)
-less platypelloidy: less flaring ilia = less lateral thigh movements -+-shorter & less horizontal femoral necks (still frequent hip fractures!) -loss of platymeria (dorso-ventrally flattened femora)
-less valgus knees
-longer tibias
-less flat feet ...
IOW, only incredible imbeciles still believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran ofter antelopes.
The term "aquatic ape" perhaps gives some people wrong impressions, but it's not wrong: human Pleistocene
ancestors were very aquatic, and in a sense we belong to the apes.
Humans and Homo: ground apes from arboreal bipedal/bimanual hominoids.
The best model is that chimps LOST their bipedalism because their ancestors were driven into the trees. In other words, it happened precisely the opposite
of what you claim.
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
Humans and Homo: ground apes from arboreal bipedal/bimanual hominoids.Excessively unlikely.
The best model is that chimps LOST their bipedalism because their ancestors were driven into the trees. In other words, it happened precisely the opposite
of what you claim.
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Op woensdag 3 november 2021 om 21:15:26 UTC+1 schreef I Envy JTEM:
The best model is that chimps LOST their bipedalism because their ancestors were driven into the trees. In other words, it happened precisely the oppositeNo ape completely left the trees: early hominoids were aquarboreal: bipedally wading & climbing vertically.,
of what you claim.
google e.g. our TREE paper "Aquarboreal Ancestors?".
Human ancestors left the trees when they evolved from aquarboreal to shallow-diving,
google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT.
I can lead an ass to water...
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
I can lead an ass to water...You couldn't find your ass with a map and a flashlight, not even with
a 10 minute head start.
-- --
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The+Book+of+JTEM/page/20
...but I can't stop
we are forest ground apes with cultural adaptations: wooden ships, sails from cotton & ungulate skin...
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