When I was just a little, before even going to kindergarten, my
mammy would take me to the local playground where, of course, there was
a sandpit, and all the kids were playing in that sandpit. Shovel,
actually, was our first toy. See, shovel: https://youtube.com/shorts/Cs7wJ84K2lo?si=Y8zxdqk3mX_LFkUO
So, hand axes were for digging. But, it is hard to dig with long arms, far more efficient is if you have the length of arms that we
have, than what Homo habilis had. So, this is how Homo erectus was
created, our arm length is because we dug a lot.
When I was just a little, before even going to kindergarten, my mammy
would take me to the local playground where, of course, there was a
sandpit, and all the kids were playing in that sandpit. Shovel,
actually, was our first toy. See, shovel: https://youtube.com/shorts/Cs7wJ84K2lo?si=Y8zxdqk3mX_LFkUO
So, hand axes were for digging. But, it is hard to dig with long arms,
far more efficient is if you have the length of arms that we have, than
what Homo habilis had. So, this is how Homo erectus was created, our arm length is because we dug a lot.
Mario Petrinovic wrote:
When I was just a little, before even going to kindergarten, my mammy
would take me to the local playground where, of course, there was a
sandpit, and all the kids were playing in that sandpit. Shovel,
actually, was our first toy. See, shovel:
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cs7wJ84K2lo?si=Y8zxdqk3mX_LFkUO
So, hand axes were for digging. But, it is hard to dig with long arms,
far more efficient is if you have the length of arms that we have, than
what Homo habilis had. So, this is how Homo erectus was created, our arm
length is because we dug a lot.
"When the asteroid struck, it hit the world so hard that it bounced all
the dinosaurs into the air. And some of those dinosaurs flapped their
arms, in the air like that, and they become birds and flew & stuff. A
few landed in the water and that's why we have ducks."
Mario Petrinovic wrote:
Isn't it simple? How come nobody figures it out? Nobody even wants to
accept that hand axes are shovels. Why?
Hand axes are described as the Swiss Army Knife of Tools.
This does not exclude much if anything.
A vague idea of Stone Age 'Swiss Knife'?
Saying "They were shovels" sounds like an answer but it's not.
It doesn't tell us what they were digging. It doesn't tell us a
lifestyle or map to any evolution.
I mean, you have to base your ideas on something,
The irony is getting mighty thick.
Isn't it simple? How come nobody figures it out? Nobody even wants to
accept that hand axes are shovels. Why?
A vague idea of Stone Age 'Swiss Knife'?
I mean, you have to base your ideas on something,
Mario Petrinovic wrote:
What they were digging? *Anything*.
Which is not an answer.
There is no valid information here. There's no mapping to
anything, no evolutionary track drawn out... nothing.
"They dug stuff."
The real irony is how you attack Aquatic Ape which is not
only the best model we've got, but the only real model.
Aquatic Ape tells us HOW and WHY they dispersed, for
example. "They dug stuff" does not even tell us what they
were digging...
You have to think in terms of model. Or, "The big picture"
if you need it simplified.
Disarticulated "Stuff" is the nonsense which the status
quo thrives on.
What they were digging? *Anything*.
First, I am not attacking AAT, I am the proponent of AAT, my main
theory, the cliff AAT theory heavily relies on AAT, it is half part
cliffs, and the other half AAT.
Mario Petrinovic wrote:
First, I am not attacking AAT, I am the proponent of AAT, my main
theory, the cliff AAT theory heavily relies on AAT, it is half part
cliffs, and the other half AAT.
My mistake.
You're in the same boat as the good Doctor: You both see arboreal adaptations and conclude climbing.
Me? I know that it's not necessary. Yes, they could have been
climbing, or they could have been interbreeding with a closely
related group (species?) that did climb, or maybe the fossils we're
seeing ARE the closely related group (species) that climbed, and
not our ancestors at all.
For me there's no problem: The Aquatic Ape population is the
one all humans have in common.
Who cares if some groups was climbing trees or climbing
rocks or whatever?
To hang down from branches you got to have long, hook-like, fingers.
All extant apes are hanging from branches, and all have those. But, this
is new adaptation, early apes had short fingers, they didn't hang from branches, and yet, they were climbers.
And yet, cliffs are more safe
places for apes than trees (because cats can climb trees, but not cliffs). Isn't all this so simple, this should be the basic knowledge that
everybody who is researching this should know. Yet, a lot of people
don't know this, because they are closed in their little boxes, and they don't care much about to research this, they are only concerned how to perform the task given to them, and this is usually only a tiny fragment
of the whole picture. So, they don't have time to look at the whole
picture. Second thing, for the unknown reason they are completely unable
to value what they know. Mostly, the highest value in their eyes is
their specific field of research, and the second highest is the notion
that we are extraordinary creatures, much more spiritual, and everything else, than all the other species. So, most of the time they try to
resolve why we are such species. They are not very flexible in their thinking, because they don't give any importance in the fact that we
have language. Actually, they put language into our special traits which
we evolved only *after* the "divine spark" has hit us.
Op dinsdag 19 september 2023 om 10:12:19 UTC+2 schreef Mario Petrinovic:
To hang down from branches you got to have long, hook-like, fingers.
All extant apes are hanging from branches, and all have those. But, this
is new adaptation, early apes had short fingers, they didn't hang from
branches, and yet, they were climbers.
Yes, very long arms, hands & fingers evolved in parallel in apes, after they split from our acnestral line,
but this has nothing to do with cliffs, Mario, only with branches AFAICS.
When I was just a little, before even going to kindergarten, my mammy
would take me to the local playground where, of course, there was a
sandpit, and all the kids were playing in that sandpit. Shovel,
actually, was our first toy. See, shovel: https://youtube.com/shorts/Cs7wJ84K2lo?si=Y8zxdqk3mX_LFkUO
So, hand axes were for digging. But, it is hard to dig with long arms,
far more efficient is if you have the length of arms that we have, than
what Homo habilis had. So, this is how Homo erectus was created, our arm length is because we dug a lot.
Op maandag 18 september 2023 om 10:53:06 UTC+2 schreef Mario Petrinovic:
When I was just a little, before even going to kindergarten, my mammy
would take me to the local playground where, of course, there was a
sandpit, and all the kids were playing in that sandpit. Shovel,
actually, was our first toy. See, shovel:
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cs7wJ84K2lo?si=Y8zxdqk3mX_LFkUO
So, hand axes were for digging. But, it is hard to dig with long arms,
far more efficient is if you have the length of arms that we have, than
what Homo habilis had. So, this is how Homo erectus was created, our arm
length is because we dug a lot.
What were we digging for?
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