• Humans have tools but..

    From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:23:56 2023
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/11/30/new-evidence-that-lucy-our-most-famous-ancestor-had-super-strong-arms/

    I'm sure there's a lot on this out there, it's not exactly
    my forte, but shouldn't we be able to track lifestyle, and
    tool use, through muscle development?

    The less a species relies on tools, the more they probably
    rely on brute strength.

    Chimps are known for ripping monkeys and even each
    other apart...

    I should think that the further you get from the LCA, the
    stronger. And according to the above cite, Lucy and her
    ilk weren't quite as strong as Chimps, though stronger
    than humans.

    This might also be evidence for arboreal behavior. After
    all, they've got to pull their body weight up into trees all
    the time.

    Conversely...

    It seems that you'd need very little strength to walk
    along a beach, picking up clams or whatnot. So there
    would be very little selective pressure on strength.

    Of course one problem with this model is Neanderthals,
    who were built like a Sherman tank. But I've long
    suggested that they were ambush hunters and likely
    used trees.

    Climb up into a tree along a game trail, or over bait,
    and wait with your spear... *Bam*!

    i dunno.

    Thoughts?




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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 11:02:32 2023
    Op vrijdag 15 september 2023 om 18:23:57 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/11/30/new-evidence-that-lucy-our-most-famous-ancestor-had-super-strong-arms/

    I haven't read it, but of course, afarensis (an aquarboreal fossil gorilla relative IMO) had super-strong arms.



    I'm sure there's a lot on this out there, it's not exactly
    my forte, but shouldn't we be able to track lifestyle, and
    tool use, through muscle development?
    The less a species relies on tools, the more they probably
    rely on brute strength.
    Chimps are known for ripping monkeys and even each
    other apart...
    I should think that the further you get from the LCA, the
    stronger. And according to the above cite, Lucy and her
    ilk weren't quite as strong as Chimps, though stronger
    than humans.
    This might also be evidence for arboreal behavior. After
    all, they've got to pull their body weight up into trees all
    the time.
    Conversely...
    It seems that you'd need very little strength to walk
    along a beach, picking up clams or whatnot. So there
    would be very little selective pressure on strength.
    Of course one problem with this model is Neanderthals,
    who were built like a Sherman tank. But I've long
    suggested that they were ambush hunters and likely
    used trees.
    Climb up into a tree along a game trail, or over bait,
    and wait with your spear... *Bam*!
    i dunno.
    Thoughts?

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