https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
These molecular data are devastating for the hypothesis that australopithecines are ancestors of the African apes.
"Based on the phylogenetically informative sites identified (Table
S13, S18-19), all four Paranthropus sequences were closer to those in
the Homo clade than to any other primate."
"To explore the taxonomic placement of the Paranthropus individuals,
we utilised our aligned reference datasets to generate phylogenetic
trees via a maximum likelihood and a Bayesian approach (Fig. 4A, Fig. S18-S21). The phylogenetic reconstructions place the Paranthropus individuals as outgroups to the clade containing present-day humans
and available Pleistocene hominins from Eurasia (Neanderthal and
Denisovan). All these individuals, including Paranthropus, form a
clade to the exclusion of other members of present-day Hominidae."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
These molecular data are devastating for the hypothesis that
australopithecines are ancestors of the African apes.
"Based on the phylogenetically informative sites identified (Table
S13, S18-19), all four Paranthropus sequences were closer to those in
the Homo clade than to any other primate."
"To explore the taxonomic placement of the Paranthropus individuals,
we utilised our aligned reference datasets to generate phylogenetic
trees via a maximum likelihood and a Bayesian approach (Fig. 4A, Fig.
S18-S21). The phylogenetic reconstructions place the Paranthropus
individuals as outgroups to the clade containing present-day humans
and available Pleistocene hominins from Eurasia (Neanderthal and
Denisovan). All these individuals, including Paranthropus, form a
clade to the exclusion of other members of present-day Hominidae."
:-DDD
Bye bye, my little little child:
of course, "Paranthropus" = outgroup of Hs, Hn, Hd!
And E.Afr. "Paranthr."robustus (Pan) even considerably more than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla), of course:
You don't seem to get it, yet.
The molecular phylogenetic tree in fig.4A in the paper of Madupe et
al. shows that Paranthropus forms a clade with Homo to the exclusion
of Pan, Gorilla, Pongo, and Nomascus, just as with the morphological
data.
This implies that Paranthropus cannot be the ancestor of Pan or
Gorilla.
It's simple phylogenetic logic.
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 06:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com" <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
These molecular data are devastating for the hypothesis that
australopithecines are ancestors of the African apes.
"Based on the phylogenetically informative sites identified (Table
S13, S18-19), all four Paranthropus sequences were closer to those in
the Homo clade than to any other primate."
"To explore the taxonomic placement of the Paranthropus individuals,
we utilised our aligned reference datasets to generate phylogenetic
trees via a maximum likelihood and a Bayesian approach (Fig. 4A, Fig.
S18-S21). The phylogenetic reconstructions place the Paranthropus
individuals as outgroups to the clade containing present-day humans
and available Pleistocene hominins from Eurasia (Neanderthal and
Denisovan). All these individuals, including Paranthropus, form a
clade to the exclusion of other members of present-day Hominidae."
:-DDD Bye bye, my little little child:
of course, "Paranthropus" = outgroup of Hs, Hn, Hd!
And E.Afr. "Paranthr."robustus (Pan) even considerably more than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla), of course:
The molecular phylogenetic tree in fig.4A in the paper of Madupe et
al. shows that Paranthropus forms a clade with Homo to the exclusion
of Pan, Gorilla, Pongo, and Nomascus, just as with the morphological
data. This implies that Paranthropus cannot be the ancestor of Pan or Gorilla. It's simple phylogenetic logic. Let it sink in for a few days
and then you'll realize the shock.
Op woensdag 12 juli 2023 om 17:10:10 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 06:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
These molecular data are devastating for the hypothesis that
australopithecines are ancestors of the African apes.
"Based on the phylogenetically informative sites identified (Table
S13, S18-19), all four Paranthropus sequences were closer to those in
the Homo clade than to any other primate."
"To explore the taxonomic placement of the Paranthropus individuals,
we utilised our aligned reference datasets to generate phylogenetic
trees via a maximum likelihood and a Bayesian approach (Fig. 4A, Fig.
S18-S21). The phylogenetic reconstructions place the Paranthropus
individuals as outgroups to the clade containing present-day humans
and available Pleistocene hominins from Eurasia (Neanderthal and
Denisovan). All these individuals, including Paranthropus, form a
clade to the exclusion of other members of present-day Hominidae."
:-DDD Bye bye, my little little child:
of course, "Paranthropus" = outgroup of Hs, Hn, Hd!
And E.Afr. "Paranthr."robustus (Pan) even considerably more than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla), of course:
Kudu runner snipped evidence, but didn't get it:
The molecular phylogenetic tree in fig.4A in the paper of Madupe et
al. shows that Paranthropus forms a clade with Homo to the exclusion
of Pan, Gorilla, Pongo, and Nomascus, just as with the morphological
data. This implies that Paranthropus cannot be the ancestor of Pan or
Gorilla. It's simple phylogenetic logic. Let it sink in for a few days
and then you'll realize the shock.
My little little little little boy, again:
don't you even know that Gorilla split off from us a few mill.yrs earlier than Pan did??
E.Afr."Paranthr."robustus (Pan) was a much closer relative of us (Homo) than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla) was:
Gorilla fossil subgenus afarensis->boisei evolved in parallel with Pan fossil subgenus Australoithecus africanus->robustus:
from late-Pliocene "gracile"forms to early-Pleist."robust"forms,
just like Gorilla // Pan evolved knuckle-walking in parallel, shown by me in 1990, now +-generally accepted. :-)
Let me try to explain it to you one more time.
Here's the molecular phylogenetic tree
Pandora wrote:
Let me try to explain it to you one more time.
Omg, I hope you're cute! Your behavior is absolutely *Adorable*! It's
very reminiscent of a small child getting into mommy's lipstick &
painting their face... *Adorable*!
Here's the molecular phylogenetic tree
The "Molecular" Phylogenetic Tree!
How does this compare to your Phylogenetic Tree prior to this
"Molecular" evidence you're imagining?
Did it even occur to you to ask that question yourself?
And why is Naledi missing?
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 04:31:27 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com" <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Op woensdag 12 juli 2023 om 17:10:10 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 06:22:05 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02242-z
Oldest genetic data from a human relative found in
2-million-year-old teeth
These molecular data are devastating for the hypothesis that
australopithecines are ancestors of the African apes.
"Based on the phylogenetically informative sites identified (Table
S13, S18-19), all four Paranthropus sequences were closer to those in >> >> the Homo clade than to any other primate."
"To explore the taxonomic placement of the Paranthropus individuals, >> >> we utilised our aligned reference datasets to generate phylogenetic
trees via a maximum likelihood and a Bayesian approach (Fig. 4A, Fig. >> >> S18-S21). The phylogenetic reconstructions place the Paranthropus
individuals as outgroups to the clade containing present-day humans
and available Pleistocene hominins from Eurasia (Neanderthal and
Denisovan). All these individuals, including Paranthropus, form a
clade to the exclusion of other members of present-day Hominidae."
:-DDD Bye bye, my little little child:
of course, "Paranthropus" = outgroup of Hs, Hn, Hd!
And E.Afr. "Paranthr."robustus (Pan) even considerably more than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla), of course:
Kudu runner snipped evidence, but didn't get it:
The molecular phylogenetic tree in fig.4A in the paper of Madupe et
al. shows that Paranthropus forms a clade with Homo to the exclusion
of Pan, Gorilla, Pongo, and Nomascus, just as with the morphological
data. This implies that Paranthropus cannot be the ancestor of Pan or
Gorilla. It's simple phylogenetic logic. Let it sink in for a few days
and then you'll realize the shock.
My little little little little boy, again:
don't you even know that Gorilla split off from us a few mill.yrs earlier than Pan did??
E.Afr."Paranthr."robustus (Pan) was a much closer relative of us (Homo) than S.Afr."Paranthr."boisei (Gorilla) was:
Gorilla fossil subgenus afarensis->boisei evolved in parallel with Pan fossil subgenus Australoithecus africanus->robustus:
from late-Pliocene "gracile"forms to early-Pleist."robust"forms,
just like Gorilla // Pan evolved knuckle-walking in parallel, shown by me in 1990, now +-generally accepted. :-)
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