• WHATtalk today 9.7.23

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 9 02:44:16 2023
    Dear One and All

    Please consider yourself most cordially invited to the next in the WHAT Talks series this forthcoming Sunday, July 9th starting at 8:30 pm West Australia Time (1:30 pm in the UK).

    #21 will be given by Dr Colin Hendrie, a Senior Lecturer and Associate Professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.

    Please feel free to share the link to the meeting below with anyone you know who is interested in human evolution.

    Colin studied at the universities of Middlesex and Aberdeen and gained his PhD from the University of Bradford. His main interest is in ethology, where he has applied this approach to a broad range of species, from gulls to humans. He is a Fellow of the
    Linnean Society, a member of the ethics committee of the Association for the Study of Animal Behaviour and currently editor-in-chief of 'Human Ethology', the official journal of the International Society for Human Ethology. Colin first became interested
    in the Waterside/Aquatic Ape Hypothesis whilst an undergraduate and has sought to enthuse new generations by incorporating this into his own undergraduate teaching.

    Here is the abstract for his talk…

    Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?... Yes

    Humans have no close living relatives and so it is of interest to students of human evolution and behaviour to try and model the characteristics of the last common ancestor (LCA) of humans and chimpanzees. This can be done by examining similarities in
    the behaviour of these species and also by considering their behavioural differences. This analysis indicates that the LCA was a self-aware, tool-using, hunter-gathering, hand-assisted arboreal biped. It is suggested that the human line’s most likely
    point of origin was in the flooded/swamp forests of what became the Congo basin during the mid-to-late Miocene. It is proposed that the development of this basin created the conditions for the LCA line to divide based on propensity to engage with water
    and that this is still reflected in the behaviour of chimpanzees and humans today.

    Remember all previous talks are recorded on our web site www.whattalks.com and on the associated YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@whattalks5937/videos.

    Please check your local times as daylight saving schemes might be in operation.

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    Zoom Meeting Link

    Topic: WHAT Talk #21 Colin Hendrie: Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? - Yes

    Time: Jul 9, 2023 08:15 PM Perth

    Join Zoom Meeting

    https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87176158709?pwd=U2pnWWh6U1dQdzAxVS9vT1ZrZTV1UT09

    If you have any suggestions for a future guest speaker please get in touch. This is the current full programme …

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    Thank you for your interest and support.

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    Dr Algis Kuliukas
    Anatomy, Physiology and Human Biology




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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to littoral.homo@gmail.com on Sun Jul 9 14:12:44 2023
    On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 02:44:16 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear One and All

    Please consider yourself most cordially invited to the next in the WHAT Talks series
    this forthcoming Sunday, July 9th starting at 8:30 pm West Australia Time (1:30 pm in the UK).

    #21 will be given by Dr Colin Hendrie, a Senior Lecturer and Associate Professor
    in the Department of Psychology at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.

    A psychologist? Are you that desperate to get some "expertise" on the
    AAT bandwagon?

    currently editor-in-chief of 'Human Ethology', the official journal of the International Society for Human Ethology.

    How convenient, because then you can publish an article as a
    commentary without peer-review: https://ishe.org/volume-38-2023/the-last-common-ancestor/

    "Questions about how our ancestral species avoided predation from
    crocodiles during this period are answered by studies that show
    man-eating species (Crocodylus niloticus) originated in Australasia
    and do not show up in the African fossil record until 2-3 million
    years before present (Oaks, 2011). Hence, the LCA’s only contact with Crocodilians during this swamp forest phase would have been with slender-snouted fish eaters."

    So much for "expertise" on the crocodylian fossil record.

    The current first appearance datum for Crocodylus in Africa is
    approximately 7 Ma and included giant species up to 7.5 m in total
    length such as Crocodylus thorbjarnarsoni from Pliocene and
    Pleistocene deposits in the Lake Turkana Basin of Kenya: "It would
    have been the largest predator in its environment, and the early
    humans found in the same deposits were presumably part of its prey
    base."
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235961083

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Pandora on Thu Jul 13 19:46:31 2023
    Pandora wrote:

    A psychologist? Are you that desperate to get some "expertise" on the
    AAT bandwagon?

    Actually the good Doctor, and I, and others disagreed with quite a lot
    the man said.

    If you don't want to look insane, or at least not quite as insane, it
    might be a good idea for you to remember how you're defending
    the status quo. Not the good Doctor, not me, not any proponent of
    Aquatic Ape. You are the dogmatic turd, the knight in tarnished
    armor defending the status quo... perpetually in high school,
    regurgitating everything the teacher said in order to win that pat
    on the head.






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