• Super important point about evidence

    From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 00:59:42 2023
    Seemingly unrelated to human origins but
    actually very important to the topic:

    There are two popular schools of thoughts
    in physics, and they are the Copenhagen
    Interpretation and the Multiverse.

    The Copenhagen Interpretation says that
    the a photon is in a state of flux, of sorts.
    It's everywhere and nowhere, right up until
    you take a measurement. THEN, because
    you measured it (observed it), the quantum
    state collapses and it's in a definitive state
    or position.

    The Multiverse says that there's a version
    of the photon in every POTENTIAL state, in
    every POTENTIAL location, and when you
    take your measurement (make your
    observation) you effectively are selecting
    a specific version of the photon, a specific
    version of the universe that corresponds
    with your measurement/observation.

    Weird. But, here's the thing: The observations
    are the same!

    Whether you pick the Copenhagen Interpretation
    or the Multiverse as your view of the universe,
    the observations are the same. You and I are
    always making the exact same measurement
    or observation, but depending upon what idea
    we subscribe to we see an extremely different
    result.

    The same is true for Out of Africa vs Out of
    Asia.

    It's not like if you favor one idea over the other,
    half the fossils ever found suddenly dissolve.

    All the evidence is still there. For everyone.

    HOW you see that evidence changes radically,
    from one hypothesis to the next. Your preferred
    hypothesis frames the evidence. It restricts or
    controls how you look at it.

    Aquatic Ape proponents, almost to the man (and
    woman) were spoon fed the exact same Out of
    Africa purity as anyone else. We were all raised
    on it, we probably all believed it.

    I know I did.

    We saw everything through the filter of Out of
    Africa purity, and we know what it looks like to
    the purists. We looked at things that way. We
    applied the bias of the purists to everything.

    And then we expanded our views.

    Aquatic Ape advocates aren't people who never
    had out of Africa purity rammed down their throats.
    It's not that it was never explained to us or that we
    somehow didn't understand it. We did. We do.

    Out of Africa purists can't say the same of Aquatic
    Ape though...





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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 03:43:48 2023
    Well-said, JTEM!

    Traditional paleo-anthropology is *incredibly* wrong in *at least* 4 instances: - early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    - S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    - it was not "out of Africa", but "out of southern-Asia" & "out of the Red Sea",
    - Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.

    Google e.g.
    – aquarboreal
    – GondwanaTalks verhaegen
    – WHATtalk verhaegen

    ________

    Seemingly unrelated to human origins but
    actually very important to the topic:

    There are two popular schools of thoughts
    in physics, and they are the Copenhagen
    Interpretation and the Multiverse.

    The Copenhagen Interpretation says that
    the a photon is in a state of flux, of sorts.
    It's everywhere and nowhere, right up until
    you take a measurement. THEN, because
    you measured it (observed it), the quantum
    state collapses and it's in a definitive state
    or position.

    The Multiverse says that there's a version
    of the photon in every POTENTIAL state, in
    every POTENTIAL location, and when you
    take your measurement (make your
    observation) you effectively are selecting
    a specific version of the photon, a specific
    version of the universe that corresponds
    with your measurement/observation.

    Weird. But, here's the thing: The observations
    are the same!

    Whether you pick the Copenhagen Interpretation
    or the Multiverse as your view of the universe,
    the observations are the same. You and I are
    always making the exact same measurement
    or observation, but depending upon what idea
    we subscribe to we see an extremely different
    result.

    The same is true for Out of Africa vs Out of
    Asia.

    It's not like if you favor one idea over the other,
    half the fossils ever found suddenly dissolve.

    All the evidence is still there. For everyone.

    HOW you see that evidence changes radically,
    from one hypothesis to the next. Your preferred
    hypothesis frames the evidence. It restricts or
    controls how you look at it.

    Aquatic Ape proponents, almost to the man (and
    woman) were spoon fed the exact same Out of
    Africa purity as anyone else. We were all raised
    on it, we probably all believed it.

    I know I did.

    We saw everything through the filter of Out of
    Africa purity, and we know what it looks like to
    the purists. We looked at things that way. We
    applied the bias of the purists to everything.

    And then we expanded our views.

    Aquatic Ape advocates aren't people who never
    had out of Africa purity rammed down their throats.
    It's not that it was never explained to us or that we
    somehow didn't understand it. We did. We do.

    Out of Africa purists can't say the same of Aquatic
    Ape though...

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