• Human adaptation to diverse biomes over the past 3 million years

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 00:10:57 2023
    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Editor’s summary
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.
    Zeller et al. explored the movements of hominins
    across and preferences for different biomes by
    comparing six Homo species distributions from the
    fossil record against simulated climate and
    vegetation over the past 3 million years. They
    found that some later species inhabited a broader
    range of biomes as they spread to colder and more
    forested areas, especially H. sapiens, which
    settled in more extreme habitats (deserts and
    tundra). In addition to adapting to changing
    environmental conditions over time, models
    suggest that Homo species may have preferentially
    selected areas with more diverse habitats.
    —Bianca Lopez


    Full pdf

    https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
    Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023

    Abstract
    To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
    diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
    we identify past human habitat preferences over
    time using a transient 3-million-year earth
    system-biome model simulation and an extensive
    hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
    analysis shows that early African hominins
    predominantly lived in open environments such as
    grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
    hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
    time. By linking the location and age of hominin
    sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
    we also find that our ancestors actively selected
    for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
    results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
    species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
    equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.


    Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
    preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sat May 13 00:36:27 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.

    Wrong.

    Besides the fact that there's an excellent case for "Out
    of Asia," they only had to adapt to the waterside environment,
    then spreading became an inescapable consequence.

    ...they picked up stuff & ate it. As soon as the pickings
    grew too slim they moved on.

    Occasionally groups would have pushed inland along
    transitional wetlands and/or following fresh water outlets
    backwards from the sea. This would have happened for
    numerous reasons (conflict/natural disaster/etc), and once
    inland they could have adapted and radiated.

    The glacial/interglacial cycle would have assured such
    inland "migrations" with the changes in sea level reshaping
    their world.

    Their brains would likely be smaller than their waterside
    counterparts, with the loss of the very high protein, high
    DHA diet, and interbreeding with earlier groups to have
    split off would have further separated them from the mother
    group.




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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 13 03:47:55 2023
    Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

    :-DDD
    Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.

    Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
    -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
    -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers. Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 13 23:21:52 2023
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

    :-DDD
    Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.

    Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances: -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
    -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
    Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen


    Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
    wrong on all counts



    https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
    Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023

    Abstract
    To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
    diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
    we identify past human habitat preferences over
    time using a transient 3-million-year earth
    system-biome model simulation and an extensive
    hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
    analysis shows that early African hominins
    predominantly lived in open environments such as
    grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
    hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
    time. By linking the location and age of hominin
    sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
    we also find that our ancestors actively selected
    for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
    results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
    species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
    equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.


    Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
    have been found.

    Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
    preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Tue Jun 13 23:17:09 2023
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.

    Wrong.

    They *didn't* adapt? Well how about that.

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Wed Jun 14 00:23:10 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

    Allow me to add emphasis seeing how you have ZERO reading
    comprehension and need these things explained...

    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Early humans and their hominin relatives HAD TO
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa.

    Wrong.

    Besides the fact that there's an excellent case for "Out
    of Asia," they only HAD TO adapt to the waterside environment,
    then spreading became an inescapable consequence.

    They *didn't* adapt? Well how about that.

    You have ZERO reading comprehension? Well how about that.




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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 05:01:26 2023
    I just sent thsi to prof.Zeller:

    Dear professor Zeller & all co-authors,

    I just read your very interesting article in Science,
    "Human adaptation to diverse biomes over the past 3 million years".
    I tried to send a comment, but it failed
    therefore I sent something like this to sci.anthropology.paleo:

    Retroviral data confirm our Pliocene ancestors were not in Africa
    (Yohn CT cs 2005 PLoS Biol 3:1-11, Benveniste & Todaro 1976 Nature 261:101) Your article tries to describe where "hominins" lived,
    but using the word "hominin" already shows the prejudiced assumption that apiths were closer relatives of Homo than of Pan or Gorilla,
    but detailed anatomical comparisons leave little doubt:
    apiths were fossil relatives of Gorilla (E.Africa) or Pan (S.Africa initially), as shown in a lot of publications by different authors
    (google e.g. "WHATtalk verhaegen").
    Pliocene Homo simply followed the S.Asian coasts -> SE.Asia Java: early-Pleist.Java H.erectus cs were found amid marine & freshwater molluscs, e.g.

    -Chemeron KNM-BC1 early Homo: ‘The Fish Beds […] seem to be almost entirely lacustrine and fluviatile; fish remains are abundant […] Molluscs also lived in the lake, and locally their remains accumulate to form shelly limestones’ (Martyn & Tobias
    1967).
    -Turkana Boy KNM-WT 15000 H.erectus: ‘Mammalian fossils are rare at this locality, the most abundant vertebrate fossils being parts of small and large fish. The depositional environment was evidently an alluvial plain of low relief […] Typical
    lacustrine forms (for example, ostracods, molluscs) could invade the area […] The only other fauna found so far in the fossiliferous bed are many opercula of the swamp snail Pila, a few bones of the catfish Synodontis and two fragments of indeterminate
    large mammal bone […]’ (Brown cs1985).
    -Mojokerto H.erectus: ‘The basal part of the Putjangan Beds is composed of volcanic breccias containing marine and freshwater molluscs. The rest of the Putjangan Beds is composed of black clays of lacustrine origin’ (Ninkovich & Burckle 1987).
    -Peking H.erectus: ‘A big river and possibly a lake were located to the east and contained various water species; along the shorelines grew reeds and plants, which were home for buffalo, deer, otters, beavers and other animals’ (Poirier 1978); ‘[…
    ] accumulation in quiet water. The cave at this time was probably the locus of ponded water and was probably more open to the atmosphere’ (Weiner cs 1998).
    -Hopefield, Rabat & Terra Amata: H.erectus fossils came from sandstone made up from dune sand resting upon a former sea beach (De Lumley, 1990). In Terra Amata, ‘there are also indications that the inhabitants ate oysters, mussels and limpets –
    shells of which are present. The presence of fish bones and fish vertebrae indicate that the population also fished’ (Poirier 1987).

    Modern insight in ape & human evolution:
    1) apiths=Afr.ape ancestors, google "WHATtalk verhaegen".
    2) Plio-Pleist.Homo evolution biologically:
    -wading-climbing Pliocene hominids, google "aquarboreal",
    -wading-diving early-Plest.Homo, google "pachyosteosclerosis",
    -wading-walking late-Pleist.Homo, googl "gonwanatalks verhaegen".

    The traditional assumption that Plio-Pleistocenecene human ancestors were regular hunters is ridiculous:
    e.g. humans have poor olfaction and evolved vulnerable fleshy noses...
    Our large brain (DHA), fur loss, SC fat layer etc. leave no doubt: we were waterside.
    In fact, H.erectus was pachy-osteo-sclerotic, which is exclusvely seen in tetrapods that frequently dive for shallow-aquatic foods, in the case of H.erectus no doubt incl.shellfish, see e.g. shellfish engravings (google "Joordens Munro"), island
    colonizations (Flores 18 km oversea) etc.

    When will paleo-anthropologists accept what is biologically obvious?
    Homo ancestors have always been waterside!

    With best wishes --marc verhaegen

    _____


    Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 13 mei 2023 om 08:11:01 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:
    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

    :-DDD
    Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.

    Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
    -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
    -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
    Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

    Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
    wrong on all counts https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
    Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023

    Abstract
    To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
    diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
    we identify past human habitat preferences over
    time using a transient 3-million-year earth
    system-biome model simulation and an extensive
    hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
    analysis shows that early African hominins
    predominantly lived in open environments such as
    grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
    hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
    time. By linking the location and age of hominin
    sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
    we also find that our ancestors actively selected
    for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
    results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
    species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
    equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.
    Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
    have been found.
    Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
    preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 04:38:48 2023
    Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:


    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

    :-DDD
    Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
    Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances:
    -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
    -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
    Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

    Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
    wrong on all counts

    :-DDD
    Already caught your antelope, my little boy?
    Grow up: retroviral data confirm our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa.
    Zeller cs try to describe where "hominins" lived,
    but using the word "hominin" already show their prejudices:
    apiths were fossil relatives of Gorilla (E.Africa) or Pan (S.Africa),
    this is shown in a lot of publications by different authors.
    As every body knows, Pliocene Homo simply followed the S.Asian coasts -> SE.Asia Java:
    early-Pleist.Java H.erectus was found amid marine & freshwater molluscs, e.g.

    -Chemeron KNM-BC1 early Homo: ‘The Fish Beds […] seem to be almost entirely lacustrine and fluviatile; fish remains are abundant […] Molluscs also lived in the lake, and locally their remains accumulate to form shelly limestones’ (Martyn & Tobias
    1967).
    -Turkana Boy KNM-WT 15000 H.erectus: ‘Mammalian fossils are rare at this locality, the most abundant vertebrate fossils being parts of small and large fish. The depositional environment was evidently an alluvial plain of low relief […] Typical
    lacustrine forms (for example, ostracods, molluscs) could invade the area […] The only other fauna found so far in the fossiliferous bed are many opercula of the swamp snail Pila, a few bones of the catfish Synodontis and two fragments of indeterminate
    large mammal bone […]’ (Brown cs1985).
    -Mojokerto H.erectus: ‘The basal part of the Putjangan Beds is composed of volcanic breccias containing marine and freshwater molluscs. The rest of the Putjangan Beds is composed of black clays of lacustrine origin’ (Ninkovich & Burckle 1987).
    -Peking H.erectus: ‘A big river and possibly a lake were located to the east and contained various water species; along the shorelines grew reeds and plants, which were home for buffalo, deer, otters, beavers and other animals’ (Poirier 1978); ‘[…
    ] accumulation in quiet water. The cave at this time was probably the locus of ponded water and was probably more open to the atmosphere’ (Weiner cs 1998).
    -Hopefield, Rabat & Terra Amata: H.erectus fossils came from sandstone made up from dune sand resting upon a former sea beach (De Lumley, 1990). In Terra Amata, ‘there are also indications that the inhabitants ate oysters, mussels and limpets –
    shells of which are present. The presence of fish bones and fish vertebrae indicate that the population also fished’ (Poirier 1987).

    IOW, only *incredible* imbeciles still believe their ancestors ran after antelopes.

    Apith=Afr.ape ancestors, google "WHATtalk verhaegen".
    Plio-Pleist.Homo evolution is not so difficult biologically:
    -wading-climbing Pliocene hominids, google "aquarboreal",
    -wading-diving early-Plest.Homo, google "pachyosteosclerosis",
    -wading-walking late-Pleist.Homo, googl "gonwanatalks verhaegen".

    But no: *your* ancestors were HUNTERS - with poor olfaction & fleshy noses...

    :-DDD

    ______


    https://www.iris.unina.it/retrieve/5e8471b9-cfd8-442c-8bb2-ff5c0dc7c989/science.abq1288.pdf
    Zeller et al., Science 380, 604–608 (2023) 12 May 2023
    To investigate the role of vegetation and ecosystem
    diversity on hominin adaptation and migration,
    we identify past human habitat preferences over
    time using a transient 3-million-year earth
    system-biome model simulation and an extensive
    hominin fossil and archaeological database. Our
    analysis shows that early African hominins
    predominantly lived in open environments such as
    grassland and dry shrubland. Migrating into Eurasia,
    hominins adapted to a broader range of biomes over
    time. By linking the location and age of hominin
    sites with corresponding simulated regional biomes,
    we also find that our ancestors actively selected
    for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
    results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
    species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
    equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.
    Figure 1 shows locations where the various hominin species
    have been found.
    Figure 3 is especially interesting for the hominin
    preferences in Africa and Asia over time...

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Jul 1 22:34:40 2023
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op woensdag 14 juni 2023 om 07:21:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:


    https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abq1288
    Early humans and their hominin relatives had to
    adapt to new environments to spread out of Africa. ...

    :-DDD
    Plio-Pleist.Homo lived along the S-Asian coasts.
    Traditional paleo-anthropology is incredibly wrong in at least 4 instances: >>> -- it was not "out of Africa"! it was out of the Red Sea" & "out of southern Asia",
    -- early-Miocene Hominoidea were already "bipedal" sensu "aquarboreal",
    -- S.Afr.australopiths = fossil relatives of Pan, E-Afr.apiths of Gorilla, not Homo,
    -- Plio-Pleistocene Homo were no savanna hunters, but followed coasts & rivers.
    Google e.g. – aquarboreal – GondwanaTalks verhaegen – WHATtalk verhaegen

    Read the paper and note the figures showing distribution. You're
    wrong on all counts

    :-DDD
    Already caught your antelope, my little boy?

    Found your snorkel nose, child?

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sun Jul 2 03:48:31 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Found your snorkel nose, child?

    Aquatic Ape doesn't need to satisfy you. And doesn't even
    need to be good. It just needs to be better than the
    alternative, which it is.





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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 07:32:41 2023
    Op zondag 2 juli 2023 om 12:48:33 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    savanna fool:
    Found your snorkel nose, child?

    Aquatic Ape doesn't need to satisfy you. And doesn't even
    need to be good. It just needs to be better than the
    alternative, which it is.

    Of course, but the savanna fools believe humans evolved projecting noses (in archaic Homo + mid-facial prognathism) to run after antelopes... :-DDD

    What we're saying is not difficult at all, yet these idiots keep running over savannas with big noses & flat feet, sweating water+salt... :-DDD

    Ape+human evolution (my 2022 book) schematically, very short:
    - wading-climbing Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google “aquarboreal”
    - wading-diving early-Pleistocene Homo, e.g. H.erectus, google “pachyosteosclerosis”
    - wading-walking late-Pleistocene Homo, google “gondwanatalks Verhaegen Bonne”
    https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

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  • From James McGinn@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Mon Jul 3 21:52:33 2023
    On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 11:11:01 PM UTC-7, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    our ancestors actively selected
    for spatially diverse environments. The quantitative
    results lead to a new diversity hypothesis: Homo
    species, in particular Homo sapiens, were specially
    equipped to adapt to landscape mosaics.

    This is worthless speculation. Quite obviously hominids are communally territorialistic. Quite obviously this is the result of extreme seasonality and deadly dry seasons. All highly season habitats are mosaic. So the notion that hominids sought mosaic
    habitat is to put the cart before the horse. Hominids sought resources. And there are a lot of resources available in seasonal habitats IF they were able to survive the dry season, which hey achieved through communal territorialism, just like we do now.

    PA is dominated by dimwits who actually believe the dumbed-down, vague notions they feed the public.

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Sun Jul 23 23:32:13 2023
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Found your snorkel nose, child?

    Aquatic Ape

    Oh, I forgot; you're retarded.

    Why are you here? You demonstrate ZERO interest in these topics, you
    post random, irrelevant "cites" you never read and couldn't understand
    anyway AND you engage in infantile behavior.

    Go away.


    We're always so kind to you, so polite, despite your many obvious
    flaws... your many, many flaws... many, many, many, many flaws...

    Anyhow, we're always so cordial, pretending not to notice the
    drool, never asking about the stains on the front of your pants,
    and yet you return our charity with such rudeness! Did they teach
    you nothing at that trailer park?

    You don't make a good parrot, bird brain.

    The gravity of the situation, vis a vis your mental health, is
    troubling to say the least.

    Look. You're an idiot. There's no denying that.

    Lord knows you're not bright, and you're unaware of this fact (despite
    the constant reminders).

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 24 00:16:15 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    [...]

    You've given up even trying. Why don't you take your meds and explain
    to your mental health provider that you're backsliding again.

    OCPD is not an argument.




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