• Scientific tests for the LCA

    From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 26 23:05:26 2021
    The point is a convergence of evidence. Any one
    piece of evidence can support a conclusion, but
    it's when numerous pieces converge -- all point to
    one species or time period -- when it really makes
    a difference.


    #1. Chromosome fusion

    Chimps have 48 chromosomes, humans have 46.
    Pinpoint when this difference occurred and you
    have an excellent candidate for LCA.

    #2. Baculum

    Chimps have one, humans do not. Unfortunately
    they don't appear to preserve very well so it
    would be relatively easy to "Prove" whether a
    population had one -- you only need to find a
    single specimen -- while it's difficult to disprove it.

    #3. Fossils

    Fossils can be dated, usually, and they are <ahem>
    "Rock Solid" evidence for the presence of a species.
    In other words, it says "We were here!"

    #4. DNA

    No, there is no molecular clock. I'm not talking about
    molecular dating. I'm speaking of recovering DNA from
    fossils. We can examine it and determine if it looks more
    like human or maybe more like Chimp. Given even a
    few populations, we could get a clear picture of which
    species -- and at what point in time -- divergence had
    taken place, past tense.

    : paleontologists can only hope to recover recognizable DNA
    : sequences from creatures that lived and died within the
    : past 6.8 million years

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/possible-dinosaur-dna-has-been-found/

    The exaggerated age for human/chimp convergence is
    ordinarily given at 6 million years. And like I said, that's
    exaggerated! So the LCA is all but certain to be well
    under the cut off point.

    ...Yet they deny DNA from even Naledi, when there's an
    abundance of samples and older DNA has been
    recovered under similar circumstances.





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