On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 1:37:39 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

somebody:

Do you consider elephants aquatic?

Elephants (closest relatives of Sirenia, no fur, very large body, very large brain for body size, voluntary breathing & sound productions, trunk...) are ex-semi-aquatic, probably along the Tethys Ocean -> Ind.Ocean etc. still Pleistocene: my 2022 book,

e.g. "Olifanten (+ zeekoeien = Tethy-theria) baden graag, zwemmen opperbest, en duiken zelfs met hun slurf als snorkel."

Dogs go into water sometimes also. And there is a cat in the Brazilian rainforest that hunts under water.

Are dogs and cats aquatic also?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

somebody:

Do you consider elephants aquatic?

Elephants (closest relatives of Sirenia, no fur, very large body, very large brain for body size, voluntary breathing & sound productions, trunk...) are ex-semi-aquatic, probably along the Tethys Ocean -> Ind.Ocean etc. still Pleistocene: my 2022

book, e.g. "Olifanten (+ zeekoeien = Tethy-theria) baden graag, zwemmen opperbest, en duiken zelfs met hun slurf als snorkel."

Dogs go into water sometimes also. And there is a cat in the Brazilian rainforest that hunts under water.

?? Can't you read??

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

littor...@gmail.com wrote:

?? Can't you read??

I think the problem here is that you need to NOT read. No, don't read any post authored by the troll.

They are here to obfuscate, the sure sign of a clinical narcissist.






-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/715099229664788480

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 4:14:28 PM UTC-7, JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

littor...@gmail.com wrote:

?? Can't you read??

I think the problem here is that you need to NOT read. No, don't read any post
authored by the troll.

They are here to obfuscate, the sure sign of a clinical narcissist.

I seek clarity.

If it is true that all animals, some only occasionally, go into water are not virtually all animals aquatic?

Why don't you skip all of that, because you really aren't making any sense. Just tell us in simple words what it is about aquaticism that would cause us to evolve our human characteristics?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Op vrijdag 21 april 2023 om 01:14:28 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

littor...@gmail.com wrote:

?? Can't you read??

I think the problem here is that you need to NOT read. No, don't read any post
authored by the troll.
They are here to obfuscate, the sure sign of a clinical narcissist.

Yes, JTEM, we're wasting our time with these ridiculous narcissists who refuse to inform & think a bit.
They're about as "smart" as geologists were before "plate tectonics"... :-D

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

Troll:

I seek clarity.

Good boy!
Here it is:
Plate Tectonics & Hominoid Splittings:
~30 Ma India approaching S-Asia formed island archipels with coastal forests++. ~25 Ma Catarrhini reaching these islands became wading bipedally + climbing arms overhead -> aquarboreal Hominoidea.
~20 Ma India further underneath Asia split hylobatids (E) & other=great apes (W), both following N-Tethys coastal forests (E vs W).
~15 Ma the Mesopotamian Seaway Closure split pongids-sivapiths (E) & hominids-dryopiths (W: Medit.Sea + incipient Red Sea: swamp forests).
~8 Ma in Red Sea: N-Rift fm, followed by Gorilla -> Afar -> Praeanthropus afarensis Lucy etc. -> boisei -> today G.gorilla & G.beringei.
~5 Ma the Red Sea opening into the Gulf (Francesca Mansfield: caused by Zanclean mega-flood 5.33 Ma?) split Homo & Pan:
– Pan went right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> S-Rift -> Transvaal -> Australopith.africanus -> robustus (// Gorilla) -> today P.troglodytes & P.paniscus,
– Homo went left: S.Asian coasts -> Java early-Pleist.H.erectus shallow-diving for shellfish:
pachy-osteo-sclerosis, DHA, brain++, stone tools, shell engravings google "Joordens Munro", ...
mid- -> late-Pleist.: diving -> wading -> walking H.sapiens. https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

:-)

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 6:25:28 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

Troll:

I seek clarity.

Good boy!
Here it is:
Plate Tectonics & Hominoid Splittings:
~30 Ma India approaching S-Asia formed island archipels with coastal forests++.
~25 Ma Catarrhini reaching these islands became wading bipedally + climbing arms overhead -> aquarboreal Hominoidea.
~20 Ma India further underneath Asia split hylobatids (E) & other=great apes (W), both following N-Tethys coastal forests (E vs W).
~15 Ma the Mesopotamian Seaway Closure split pongids-sivapiths (E) & hominids-dryopiths (W: Medit.Sea + incipient Red Sea: swamp forests).
~8 Ma in Red Sea: N-Rift fm, followed by Gorilla -> Afar -> Praeanthropus afarensis Lucy etc. -> boisei -> today G.gorilla & G.beringei.
~5 Ma the Red Sea opening into the Gulf (Francesca Mansfield: caused by Zanclean mega-flood 5.33 Ma?) split Homo & Pan:
– Pan went right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> S-Rift -> Transvaal -> Australopith.africanus -> robustus (// Gorilla) -> today P.troglodytes & P.paniscus,
– Homo went left: S.Asian coasts -> Java early-Pleist.H.erectus shallow-diving for shellfish:
pachy-osteo-sclerosis, DHA, brain++, stone tools, shell engravings google "Joordens Munro", ...
mid- -> late-Pleist.: diving -> wading -> walking H.sapiens. https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

:-)

Answer my question, jackass.

Are dogs and cats aquatic also?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)