Popular press stuff. Just teases at this point.

https://subspecieist.com/paleoanthropology/homo-naledi-dna/
January 24, 2023

Homo naledi DNA recovered at lab in Denmark?
Lee Berger promises major announcements including Homo
naledi DNA and possible culture for the hominin species
within the next 6 months.

Dr. Berger is the Phillip Tobias Chair of the Evolutionary
Anthropology Department at the University of Witwatersrand
in Johannesburg, South Africa.
...


https://worldofpaleoanthropology.org/2023/04/09/homo-naledi-on-its-way-to-copenhagen/
Homo naledi on its way to Copenhagen?

...
That’s why Professor Berger recently flew to Copenhagen,
Denmark, to conduct some tests on some of the Homo naledi
fossils. He hopes to find out more about their genetics,
their diet, their health, and their relationship to other
human ancestors.

Copenhagen is home to one of the world’s leading
laboratories for ancient DNA analysis. Here, researchers
have successfully extracted genetic material from
800,000-year-old fossils of Homo antecessor, another
extinct human relative in Europe.
...
Dr. Berger will collaborate with experts from the Globe
Institute at the University of Copenhagen. This institute
has a state-of-the-art laboratory specializing in ancient
DNA and proteomics, which studies proteins. The
researchers there have successfully extracted DNA and
proteins from other ancient human fossils, such as Homo
antecessor, which lived about 800,000 years ago in Spain.
...

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We've long since achieved critical mass. It's difficult to
believe ANYTHING they say about Naledi. It was always
insane, and since then it took a turn for the worst.

You can't feed us wheel barrels full of bullshit for years
on end, only to expect people who think to believe you
now...

Oh, sure, you'll lap up anything they piss on you. I'm
talking about people who ignore the headlines, ignore
the claims and come to their own conclusions.






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Op woensdag 12 april 2023 om 07:59:23 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

We've long since achieved critical mass. It's difficult to
believe ANYTHING they say about Naledi. It was always
insane, and since then it took a turn for the worst.
You can't feed us wheel barrels full of bullshit for years
on end, only to expect people who think to believe you
now...
Oh, sure, you'll lap up anything they piss on you. I'm
talking about people who ignore the headlines, ignore
the claims and come to their own conclusions.

My impressions on naledi FWIW, google "naledi verhaegen", e.g.
No “mystery” & not “Homo naledi” but “Pan naledi”?

Naledi has probably more to do with chimp or bonobo than with human evolution. Not only is naledi far too late (c 250 ka) & too bonobo-like,
but all its human-like traits (esp.full plantigrady) are not uniquely human-derived, but primitive-hominid
(“hominid” sensu Gorilla-Homo-Pan-australopiths, vs “pongid” orangutan + fossil relatives),
e.g. chimps (Pan) before birth have more humanlike feet wich near birth become more handlike.

Naledi fossilized in mud-stone (which forms in +-stagnant water),
its curved handbones indicate frequent vertical climbing,
its full plantigrady (opposite of ostrich or kangaroo) contradicts frequent running:
they obviously lived in wetlands & swamp forests:
they waded bipedally like lowland-gorillas & bonobos (in search of waterlilies or papyrus sedges or so), but much more frequently.
Naledi was no tool-maker more than chimps,
they were no savanna-runners as prof.Berger wants us to believe,
and they certainly did not bury their dead in caves as he anthropocentrically thinks:
naledi simply died where they lived, and erosion brought their remains into the caves.

IOW, I "predict":
naledi's DNA will be chimp- or bonobo-like, different from human DNA, and even more different from gorilla DNA.

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https://subspecieist.com/paleoanthropology/homo-naledi-dna/
January 24, 2023

Thanks. Within 6 month, we'll know:
not Homo, of course, but Pan or Australopithecus naledi.

Homo naledi DNA recovered at lab in Denmark?
Lee Berger promises major announcements including Homo
naledi DNA and possible culture for the hominin species
within the next 6 months.

Dr. Berger is the Phillip Tobias Chair of the Evolutionary
Anthropology Department at the University of Witwatersrand
in Johannesburg, South Africa.
...

https://worldofpaleoanthropology.org/2023/04/09/homo-naledi-on-its-way-to-copenhagen/
Homo naledi on its way to Copenhagen?

...
That’s why Professor Berger recently flew to Copenhagen,
Denmark, to conduct some tests on some of the Homo naledi
fossils. He hopes to find out more about their genetics,
their diet, their health, and their relationship to other
human ancestors.

Copenhagen is home to one of the world’s leading
laboratories for ancient DNA analysis. Here, researchers
have successfully extracted genetic material from
800,000-year-old fossils of Homo antecessor, another
extinct human relative in Europe.
...
Dr. Berger will collaborate with experts from the Globe
Institute at the University of Copenhagen. This institute
has a state-of-the-art laboratory specializing in ancient
DNA and proteomics, which studies proteins. The
researchers there have successfully extracted DNA and
proteins from other ancient human fossils, such as Homo
antecessor, which lived about 800,000 years ago in Spain.
...

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littor...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks. Within 6 month, we'll know:
not Homo, of course, but Pan or Australopithecus naledi.

That's my problem: We can never know. They have shoveled so
much bullshit on Naledi that I simply can't trust these guys.

I can't.





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