On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:32:17 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

The exploitation of crabs by Last Interglacial Iberian Neanderthals:
the evidence from Gruta da Figueira Brava (Portugal)
Mariana Nabais, Catherine Dupont & João Zilhão 2023 Front.Environ.Archaeol. Sec.Zooarchaeology vol.2
doi org/10.3389/fearc.2023.1097815

Hominin consumption of small prey has been much discussed over the past decades.
Such resources are often considered to be unproductive in the mid-Paleolithic, due to their limited meat yield (low energy return).
But ethnographic studies suggest: small prey incl.shellfish are a reliable, predictable, by no means marginal resource,
there is increasing evidence for their inclusion in hominin diets, mid-Paleolithic & even earlier.

Gruta da Figueira Brava features a MIS 5c-5b Neanderthal occupation that left behind substantial, human-accumulated terrestrial & marine faunal remains, capped by reworked levels that contain some naturally accumulated, recent Holocene material, namely

the remains of small crab spp & echinoderms.

The brown crab Cancer pagurus predominates in the intact mid-Paleolithic deposit,
reconstruction of its carapace width (based on regression from claw size) shows a preference for rel.large individuals.
The detailed analysis of the Cancer pagurus remains reveals:
complete animals were brought to the site, where they were roasted on coals, and then cracked open to access the flesh.

So, the fact that hominids ate crabs means they are aquatic? Really?

James McGinn / Genius

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You are bat shit crazy, and I do admire your tinfoil
hat, but I will explain the situation here, why you are
so insane:

Aquatic Ape aka Littoral Ape aka Waterside Ape:

Human ancestors who exploited the sea, adapted to the unique
conditions and foods of the "Waterside" environment.

Everyone agrees that it's a fact -- "Coastal Dispersal" -- but you
nimrods are simply too well trained & emotionally unstable to
examine what you know, much less consider ideas that run
counter to your training.

We can find human made tools in China going back more than
2 million years ago. How much further? There's no way of
knowing. And I honestly don't see them as the point of origin.
In other words, these 2 plus million year old finds are where
plinter groups, leaving the Aquatic population, pushed inland
and began to adapt.

So no matter what, we have Aquatic Ape driving human
evolution for millions of years. There were other populations,
groups were constantly peeling off, pushing inland and
adapting (evolving), settling there.

The aquatic ape population was not the only population of
Homo. They were the only population of Homo common to all.





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On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:38:17 PM UTC-7, JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

You are bat shit crazy, and I do admire your tinfoil
hat, but I will explain the situation here, why you are
so insane:

Aquatic Ape aka Littoral Ape aka Waterside Ape:

Human ancestors who exploited the sea, adapted to the unique
conditions and foods of the "Waterside" environment.

So the fuck what. All species adapt to their environment, moron. You don't have a point, you convoluted moron.

Everyone agrees that it's a fact -- "Coastal Dispersal" -- but you
nimrods are simply too well trained & emotionally unstable to
examine what you know, much less consider ideas that run
counter to your training.

I agree that hominids--LIKE HUNDREDS OF OTHER SPECIES--could walk along a beach and forage for shellfish.

We can find human made tools in China going back more than
2 million years ago. How much further?

What does this have to do with eating crabs, you evasive piece of shit.

There's no way of

knowing. And I honestly don't see them as the point of origin.
In other words, these 2 plus million year old finds are where
plinter groups, leaving the Aquatic population, pushed inland
and began to adapt.

You are babbling again. Address the issue under discussion, you evasive, lying, piece of shit.

So no matter what, we have Aquatic Ape driving human
evolution for millions of years. There were other populations,
groups were constantly peeling off, pushing inland and
adapting (evolving), settling there.

You got nothing!!!

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Really quite simple:

Homo spanned continents --plural -- and this was already going
on MILLIONS of years ago.. plural.

Humans -- Homo -- spread via "Coastal Dispersal." Nobody denies
this, not even Out of Africa purists.

"Coastal Dispersal" is another name for "Aquatic Ape." They weren't
riding camels. They weren't carrying a savanna on their backs. They
were on that coastline because they lived there, they ate there, they
exploited marine resources and then they moved on.

The Africans in the "Out of Africa" purity scheme were of Eurasian
descent. We know this from the Chromosome 11 insert, which
vastly out dates any "Mitochondrial Eve."

The human brain is dependent upon DHA, which we got from the
exploitation of marine resources. (See "Coastal Dispersal, above).






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