Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communicationWTF you talking about, stupid??
skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary animals. So, lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social
animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big
brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
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On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communicationWTF you talking about, stupid??
skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary animals. So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social
animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big
brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic
wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communicationWTF you talking about, stupid??
skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary animals. So, >>> lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social
animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big
brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others chase
prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting too,
and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in ambush. All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those guys cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is there a reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that runs
towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
On 24.10.2021. 10:07, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic
wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communicationWTF you talking about, stupid??
skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary animals.
So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social
animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big
brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others >> chase prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting >> too, and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in ambush.
All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those guys
cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is there a
reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that >> runs towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
I've just read a bit about San hunting technique. They approach
animals by crawling, not by running. They first shoot the animal with poisoned arrows, and then follow the animal (sometimes for three days,
no, they are not running for three days), until poison takes effect (for smaller animals it takes less time, few hours, but for larger it can
take up to three days).
On 24.10.2021. 10:42, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:26, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:07, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic
wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communication >>>>>> skills, and even more important, although cats are solitaryWTF you talking about, stupid??
animals. So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators. >>>>>> What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social >>>>>> animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big >>>>>> brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others >>>> chase prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting >>>> too, and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in ambush.
All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those guys
cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is there
a reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that >>>> runs towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
I've just read a bit about San hunting technique. They
approach animals by crawling, not by running. They first shoot the
animal with poisoned arrows, and then follow the animal (sometimes
for three days, no, they are not running for three days), until
poison takes effect (for smaller animals it takes less time, few
hours, but for larger it can take up to three days).
Hunting elephants with spears, by some native people in
Congo: "They did not rely on stealth, but, rather, attacked the
elephant from all sides, using spears, while shouting war cries."
Also it is mentioned that they used the skills of tracking >> and stalking, no mention of running.
Using fire by !Kung. They light fire on one side, while they
approach elephant from the other side.
file:///C:/Users/Mario/Downloads/quaternary-01-00003.pdf
"Though most Bushmen know how to hunt with bows and arrows, the
actual practice is increasingly uncommon when it’s not done to earn
money from observing visitors."
It is mentioned that they actually are using duiker's horn, fastened on a wooden stick.
This is more like it:
https://youtu.be/U7qPuMbxS0Y
Now, compare this to "persistence hunting". The very logic behind "persistence hunting" is to exhaust the animal to death. This
means that you are also exhausted almost to the death, but the animal is exhausted more. Why would a sane person do this to himself? Dogs do hunt
this way.
In Wikipedia you can read about persistence hunting. It is possible in Kalahari because there the temperature is 42 C in midday
sun. It is mentioned that in cooler areas you cannot do that. So, in
order for this theory to work, the whole world needs to be Kalahari
desert. This is, simply, stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
No examples in Wikipedia except the Kalahari example, and some
South American people who torture fat birds (wild turkeys) to
exhaustion, forcing them to take offs, without allowing them to rest in between. Really fine example of "persistence hunting", lol. It just
happens that those people are good runners (probably because they lived
on high altitude, just like Kenyans), and they are doing this to wild turkeys, and voila, we have the great example of "persistence hunting", although, I don't think that they run much, while doing this to turkeys. Although, they are good runners, so, turkeys get exhausted, those people
are good runners, so, lets make this "persistence hunting", lol.
But, in Wikipedia we have a lot of talking how this "may have been" the first hunting technique. My God. Just the same "using Force"
also "may have been" the first hunting technique.
On 24.10.2021. 10:42, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:26, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:07, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic
wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communication >>>>>> skills, and even more important, although cats are solitaryWTF you talking about, stupid??
animals. So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators. >>>>>> What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social >>>>>> animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big >>>>>> brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others >>>> chase prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting >>>> too, and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in ambush.
All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those guys
cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is there
a reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that >>>> runs towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
I've just read a bit about San hunting technique. They
approach animals by crawling, not by running. They first shoot the
animal with poisoned arrows, and then follow the animal (sometimes
for three days, no, they are not running for three days), until
poison takes effect (for smaller animals it takes less time, few
hours, but for larger it can take up to three days).
Hunting elephants with spears, by some native people in
Congo: "They did not rely on stealth, but, rather, attacked the
elephant from all sides, using spears, while shouting war cries."
Also it is mentioned that they used the skills of tracking >> and stalking, no mention of running.
Using fire by !Kung. They light fire on one side, while they
approach elephant from the other side.
file:///C:/Users/Mario/Downloads/quaternary-01-00003.pdf
"Though most Bushmen know how to hunt with bows and arrows, the
actual practice is increasingly uncommon when it’s not done to earn
money from observing visitors."
It is mentioned that they actually are using duiker's horn, fastened on a wooden stick.
This is more like it:
https://youtu.be/U7qPuMbxS0Y
Now, compare this to "persistence hunting". The very logic behind "persistence hunting" is to exhaust the animal to death. This
means that you are also exhausted almost to the death, but the animal is exhausted more. Why would a sane person do this to himself? Dogs do hunt
this way.
In Wikipedia you can read about persistence hunting. It is possible in Kalahari because there the temperature is 42 C in midday
sun. It is mentioned that in cooler areas you cannot do that. So, in
order for this theory to work, the whole world needs to be Kalahari
desert. This is, simply, stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
No examples in Wikipedia except the Kalahari example, and some
South American people who torture fat birds (wild turkeys) to
exhaustion, forcing them to take offs, without allowing them to rest in between. Really fine example of "persistence hunting", lol. It just
happens that those people are good runners (probably because they lived
on high altitude, just like Kenyans), and they are doing this to wild turkeys, and voila, we have the great example of "persistence hunting", although, I don't think that they run much, while doing this to turkeys. Although, they are good runners, so, turkeys get exhausted, those people
are good runners, so, lets make this "persistence hunting", lol.
But, in Wikipedia we have a lot of talking how this "may have been" the first hunting technique. My God. Just the same "using Force"
also "may have been" the first hunting technique.
On 24.10.2021. 10:26, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:07, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic
wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communication >>>>> skills, and even more important, although cats are solitaryWTF you talking about, stupid??
animals. So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social >>>>> animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big >>>>> brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others >>> chase prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting >>> too, and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in ambush.
All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those guys
cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is there
a reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that >>> runs towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
I've just read a bit about San hunting technique. They
approach animals by crawling, not by running. They first shoot the
animal with poisoned arrows, and then follow the animal (sometimes for
three days, no, they are not running for three days), until poison
takes effect (for smaller animals it takes less time, few hours, but
for larger it can take up to three days).
Hunting elephants with spears, by some native people in Congo:
"They did not rely on stealth, but, rather, attacked the elephant from
all sides, using spears, while shouting war cries."
Also it is mentioned that they used the skills of tracking and
stalking, no mention of running.
Using fire by !Kung. They light fire on one side, while they approach elephant from the other side. file:///C:/Users/Mario/Downloads/quaternary-01-00003.pdf
On 24.10.2021. 11:27, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:42, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:26, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 10:07, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
On 24.10.2021. 1:53, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario
Petrinovic wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't haveWTF you talking about, stupid??
communication
skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary
animals. So,
lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators. >>>>>>> What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social >>>>>>> animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... >>>>>>> big
brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
Lions hunt the way that one lioness hides, and the others
chase prey in her direction.
Humans hunt the same way, today. Today humans are hunting
too, and today they don't hunt by running, but by waiting in
ambush. All the hunters that I know have big belly, trust me, those
guys cannot run.
So, we are doing this today, lions are doing this, is >>>>> there a reason why we should behave differently in the past?
Just because somebody has such a theory?
See, they are not running after them, it is the prey that
runs towards them, arrows come from the front, not from behind:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Valltorta_%28escena_de_caza%29.png
I've just read a bit about San hunting technique. They >>>> approach animals by crawling, not by running. They first shoot the
animal with poisoned arrows, and then follow the animal (sometimes
for three days, no, they are not running for three days), until
poison takes effect (for smaller animals it takes less time, few
hours, but for larger it can take up to three days).
Hunting elephants with spears, by some native people in >>> Congo: "They did not rely on stealth, but, rather, attacked the
elephant from all sides, using spears, while shouting war cries."
Also it is mentioned that they used the skills of tracking >>> and stalking, no mention of running.
Using fire by !Kung. They light fire on one side, while they
approach elephant from the other side.
file:///C:/Users/Mario/Downloads/quaternary-01-00003.pdf
"Though most Bushmen know how to hunt with bows and arrows, >> the actual practice is increasingly uncommon when it’s not done to
earn money from observing visitors."
It is mentioned that they actually are using duiker's horn, >> fastened on a wooden stick.
This is more like it:
https://youtu.be/U7qPuMbxS0Y
Now, compare this to "persistence hunting". The very logic >> behind "persistence hunting" is to exhaust the animal to death. This
means that you are also exhausted almost to the death, but the animal
is exhausted more. Why would a sane person do this to himself? Dogs do
hunt this way.
In Wikipedia you can read about persistence hunting. It is >> possible in Kalahari because there the temperature is 42 C in midday
sun. It is mentioned that in cooler areas you cannot do that. So, in
order for this theory to work, the whole world needs to be Kalahari
desert. This is, simply, stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
No examples in Wikipedia except the Kalahari example, and >> some South American people who torture fat birds (wild turkeys) to
exhaustion, forcing them to take offs, without allowing them to rest
in between. Really fine example of "persistence hunting", lol. It just
happens that those people are good runners (probably because they
lived on high altitude, just like Kenyans), and they are doing this to
wild turkeys, and voila, we have the great example of "persistence
hunting", although, I don't think that they run much, while doing this
to turkeys. Although, they are good runners, so, turkeys get
exhausted, those people are good runners, so, lets make this
"persistence hunting", lol.
But, in Wikipedia we have a lot of talking how this "may have
been" the first hunting technique. My God. Just the same "using Force"
also "may have been" the first hunting technique.
This guy did it with the San people. At the end of the 45-minute video, finally, the real thing. This is how it looks like: https://youtu.be/q7fePoqb3Sk?t=2332
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:21:33 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
Lions can organize themselves, although they don't have communication skills, and even more important, although cats are solitary animals. So, lions overcame all those obstacles to evolve into ambush predators.
What's wrong with us? We do have communication skills, we are social animals, why we cannot do this? Are we too stupid, maybe? Wait... big brain. Hm?
Are scientists too stupid, maybe? Hm...
--WTF you talking about, stupid??
https://groups.google.com/g/human-evolution
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Savanna endurance ruñning hypothesis is based on San coming of age ritual where young men chase antelope into a canyon trap where their elders wait with bows. Lieberman modified the truth into a myth of archaic Homo persistence hunting.
Op zondag 24 oktober 2021 om 15:48:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:few million years ago.
Savanna endurance ruñning hypothesis is based on San coming of age ritual where young men chase antelope into a canyon trap where their elders wait with bows. Lieberman modified the truth into a myth of archaic Homo persistence hunting.:-) Good boy!
Many self-called "anthropologists" are increbile idiots.
San endur.running is very recent behaviour:
one must be an incredible imbecile to believe that human Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
See my comment on the idiotic article in Nature:
Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains, but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a
The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons. IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism,but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals. Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African and Eurasian coasts (
few million years ago.Savanna endurance ruñning hypothesis is based on San coming of age ritual where young men chase antelope into a canyon trap where their elders wait with bows. Lieberman modified the truth into a myth of archaic Homo persistence hunting.
:-) Good boy!
Many self-called "anthropologists" are increbile idiots.
San endur.running is very recent behaviour:
one must be an incredible imbecile to believe that human Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
See my comment on the idiotic article in Nature:
Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains, but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a
but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals. Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African and Eurasian coasts (The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons. IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism,
That's the other myth maker, the little mermaid.
On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 10:58:30 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:few million years ago.
Op zondag 24 oktober 2021 om 15:48:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
Savanna endurance ruñning hypothesis is based on San coming of age ritual where young men chase antelope into a canyon trap where their elders wait with bows. Lieberman modified the truth into a myth of archaic Homo persistence hunting.:-) Good boy!
Many self-called "anthropologists" are increbile idiots.
San endur.running is very recent behaviour:
one must be an incredible imbecile to believe that human Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
See my comment on the idiotic article in Nature:
Nobody doubts that there are a few human populations today where adult men sometimes run prey to exhaustion on African plains, but it's not because there are a few people today who use this hunting method that our ancestors must have endurance-run a
but is typically seen in wading or swimming animals. Different independent lines of evidence suggest that early-Pleistocene Homo dispersed intercontinentally, not running over open plains, but initially simply following the African and Eurasian coasts (The authors didn't even include the possibility of wading or swimming vs running in their comparisons. IMO it's difficult to understand that Nature published this biased paper. Comparative anatomy shows that plantigrady is maladaptive to cursorialism,
That's the other myth maker, the little mermaid..
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