• Arched footprints preserve the motions of fossil hominin feet

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 16 23:22:39 2023
    This is PHYSICAL evidence, not just-so story suppositions.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023

    Abstract
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as
    a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.
    Fossil footprints from Laetoli, Tanzania, and Ileret,
    Kenya, are believed to provide direct evidence of
    longitudinally arched feet in hominins from the
    Pliocene and Pleistocene, respectively. We studied
    the dynamics of track formation using biplanar X-ray,
    three-dimensional animation and discrete element
    particle simulation. Here, we demonstrate that
    longitudinally arched footprints are false indicators
    of foot anatomy; instead they are generated through a
    specific pattern of foot kinematics that is
    characteristic of human walking. Analyses of fossil
    hominin tracks from Laetoli show only partial evidence
    of this walking style, with a similar heel strike but
    a different pattern of propulsion. The earliest known
    evidence for fully modern human-like bipedal kinematics
    comes from the early Pleistocene Ileret tracks, which
    were presumably made by members of the genus Homo. This
    result signals important differences in the foot
    kinematics recorded at Laetoli and Ileret and underscores
    an emerging picture of locomotor diversity within the
    hominin clade.

    "The longitudinal arch is often cited as an important
    evolutionary innovation of the human foot that contributed
    to proficient bipedal walking and adept endurance running
    in our fossil relatives..."

    "Given the challenges of interpreting arches from fossil
    feet, the Laetoli and Ileret tracks are considered the
    least equivocal evidence for a deep history of
    longitudinally arched foot morphologies in hominin
    evolution."

    "While isolated analyses of skeletal fossils have
    generated conflicting interpretations about whether
    the A. afarensis foot functioned like that of a modern
    human, our analysis of the arched Laetoli footprints
    provides a unique kinematic synthesis. Brought into view
    through this new lens is a pattern of foot function and
    bipedal locomotion that was human-like in some ways
    yet still importantly different."

    "In contrast, 1.5 Ma tracks from Ileret, Kenya, preserve
    the earliest evidence for a fully human-like pattern of
    foot kinematics. Tracks from Ileret (total n = 4 from
    three trackways) have RAVs where we would expect similarly
    deep modern human tracks to fall (Fig. 4a). These data
    provide new evidence to support inferences of human-like
    foot kinematics in Homo erectus. We emphasize, however,
    that our track ontogeny results simultaneously invalidate
    direct association between arched footprint morphology and
    arched foot anatomy at Ileret11. In contrast with the
    Laetoli examples above, it appears that the Ileret tracks
    are fully consistent with not only a heel–sole–toe rollover
    pattern but also a pattern of forefoot propulsion closer to
    that observed in modern humans."

    "The results of our track analyses suggest that important
    changes to foot anatomy and function occurred at or before
    the emergence of the genus Homo, where a suite of postcranial
    changes could correspond to selective influences of locomotor
    behaviours such as long-distance walking or endurance running."

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Fri Mar 17 02:37:43 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    This is PHYSICAL evidence, not just-so story suppositions.

    What do you think this PHYSICAL evidence shows, and why?

    It's hard to pinpoint your precise errors when you are so afraid
    of voicing them, like you are here.





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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 17 07:07:32 2023
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Nature 5.1.23
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed(yes, typical anthropocentrism: no corsorial mammal has it --mv) as a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking & running.
    Fossil footprints from Laetoli-Tanzania-Pliocene & Ileret-Kenya-Pleistocene are believed to provide direct evidence of longitudinally arched feet in hominins.
    We studied the dynamics of track formation, using biplanar X-ray, 3C animation & discrete element particle simulation.
    Here we demonstrate:
    longitudinally arched footprints are false indicators of foot anatomy;
    instead they are generated through a specific pattern of foot kinematics, characteristic of human walking.
    Analyses of fossil hominin tracks from Laetoli show only partial evidence of this walking style: similar heel strike, but different pattern of propulsion.
    The earliest known evidence for fully Hs-like bipedal kinematics comes from the early-Pleistocene Ileret tracks, presumably made by members of Homo.
    This result
    -signals important differences in the foot kinematics recorded at Laetoli & Ileret,
    -underscores an emerging picture of locomotor diversity within the hominin clade.

    Yes, this perfectly confirms what we're saying for ages:
    -Pliocene African apiths = wading+climbing, google "aquarboreal",
    -Pleist.Homo from SE.Asia->Eurasia+Africa = shallow-diving + wading.


    "The longitudinal arch is often cited(cited, yes... :-DDD --mv) as an important evol.innovation of the human foot that contributed to proficient(sic --mv) bipedal walking & adept endurance running(just-so belief --mv) in our fossil relatives..."

    Longit.arch = plantigrade relic of wading-swimming feet,
    but cursorial mammals are digiti- (carnivores) or even unguligrade (herbivores).

    These Santa-Savanna believers reason:
    humans can run, humans (vs apes) have longit.foot-arches, "ergo" our foot-arch is for running.
    This is a perfect example of illogical thinking.
    How stupid can one be??

    Moreover, these fantasts still believe humans descend from some sort of chimps:
    they believe apiths with incipient-chimplike traits are "human ancestors" (anthropocentrism) with disappearing chimp-like traits.
    How stupid can one be??

    Other examples of afrocentric & anthropocentric interpretations of Santa-Savanna believers,
    (I'm not going to waste my time with indicating the numerous illogical anthropocentrisms - every sensible reader will see these,
    (e.g. most sentences with the word "hominin"(assuming that we descend from some sort of chimps) are already wrong):

    "Given the challenges of interpreting arches from fossil feet, the Laetoli & Ileret tracks are considered the least equivocal evidence for a deep history of longitudinally arched foot morphologies in hominin evolution."
    "While isolated analyses of skeletal fossils have generated conflicting interpretations about whether the A.afarensis foot functioned like that of a modern human, our analysis of the arched Laetoli footprints provides a unique kinematic synthesis.
    Brought into view through this new lens is a pattern of foot function & BP locomotion that was human-like in some ways yet still importantly different."(aquarboreal)
    "In contrast, 1.5 Ma tracks from Ileret preserve the earliest evidence for a fully human-like pattern of foot kinematics. Tracks from Ileret (4 from 3 trackways) have RAVs where we would expect similarly deep modern human tracks to fall (Fig.4a). These
    data provide new evidence to support inferences of human-like foot kinematics in H.erectus. We emphasize, however, that our track ontogeny results simultaneously invalidate direct association between arched footprint morphology & arched foot anatomy at
    Ileret. In contrast with the Laetoli examples above, it appears that the Ileret tracks are fully consistent with not only a heel–sole–toe rollover pattern, but also a pattern of forefoot propulsion closer to that observed in modern humans."(wading-
    swimming feet)
    "The results of our track analyses suggest that important changes to foot anatomy & function occurred at or before the emergence of the genus Homo, where a suite of postcranial changes could correspond to selective influences of locomotor behaviours
    such as long-distance walking or endurance running."(:-DDD)

    Comparative (not-prejudiced=anthropocentric) view:
    Miocene Hominoidea were aquarboreal: wading=plantigrade:
    -most apes evolved more grasping feet for climbing, rarely wading any more, -mountain gorillas (heavy, less climbing) still have flat feet, cf. afarensis footrpints,
    -from this, Pleist.Homo evolved an arched foot.
    Thanks, this confirms our view, google
    "GondwanaTalks Verhaegen" :-)

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sun Mar 26 22:06:33 2023
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:


    The REAL link and abstract, not what you made up.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023

    Abstract
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as
    a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.
    Fossil footprints from Laetoli, Tanzania, and Ileret,
    Kenya, are believed to provide direct evidence of
    longitudinally arched feet in hominins from the
    Pliocene and Pleistocene, respectively. We studied
    the dynamics of track formation using biplanar X-ray,
    three-dimensional animation and discrete element
    particle simulation. Here, we demonstrate that
    longitudinally arched footprints are false indicators
    of foot anatomy; instead they are generated through a
    specific pattern of foot kinematics that is
    characteristic of human walking. Analyses of fossil
    hominin tracks from Laetoli show only partial evidence
    of this walking style, with a similar heel strike but
    a different pattern of propulsion. The earliest known
    evidence for fully modern human-like bipedal kinematics
    comes from the early Pleistocene Ileret tracks, which
    were presumably made by members of the genus Homo. This
    result signals important differences in the foot
    kinematics recorded at Laetoli and Ileret and underscores
    an emerging picture of locomotor diversity within the
    hominin clade.

    "The longitudinal arch is often cited as an important
    evolutionary innovation of the human foot that contributed
    to proficient bipedal walking and adept endurance running
    in our fossil relatives..."

    "Given the challenges of interpreting arches from fossil
    feet, the Laetoli and Ileret tracks are considered the
    least equivocal evidence for a deep history of
    longitudinally arched foot morphologies in hominin
    evolution."

    "While isolated analyses of skeletal fossils have
    generated conflicting interpretations about whether
    the A. afarensis foot functioned like that of a modern
    human, our analysis of the arched Laetoli footprints
    provides a unique kinematic synthesis. Brought into view
    through this new lens is a pattern of foot function and
    bipedal locomotion that was human-like in some ways
    yet still importantly different."

    "In contrast, 1.5 Ma tracks from Ileret, Kenya, preserve
    the earliest evidence for a fully human-like pattern of
    foot kinematics. Tracks from Ileret (total n = 4 from
    three trackways) have RAVs where we would expect similarly
    deep modern human tracks to fall (Fig. 4a). These data
    provide new evidence to support inferences of human-like
    foot kinematics in Homo erectus. We emphasize, however,
    that our track ontogeny results simultaneously invalidate
    direct association between arched footprint morphology and
    arched foot anatomy at Ileret11. In contrast with the
    Laetoli examples above, it appears that the Ileret tracks
    are fully consistent with not only a heel–sole–toe rollover
    pattern but also a pattern of forefoot propulsion closer to
    that observed in modern humans."

    "The results of our track analyses suggest that important
    changes to foot anatomy and function occurred at or before
    the emergence of the genus Homo, where a suite of postcranial
    changes could correspond to selective influences of locomotor
    behaviours such as long-distance walking or endurance running."

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Sun Mar 26 22:05:29 2023
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    This is PHYSICAL evidence, not just-so story suppositions.

    What do you think this PHYSICAL evidence shows, and why?

    Footprints are direct physical evidence.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023

    Abstract
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as
    a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.
    Fossil footprints from Laetoli, Tanzania, and Ileret,
    Kenya, are believed to provide direct evidence of
    longitudinally arched feet in hominins from the
    Pliocene and Pleistocene, respectively. We studied
    the dynamics of track formation using biplanar X-ray,
    three-dimensional animation and discrete element
    particle simulation. Here, we demonstrate that
    longitudinally arched footprints are false indicators
    of foot anatomy; instead they are generated through a
    specific pattern of foot kinematics that is
    characteristic of human walking. Analyses of fossil
    hominin tracks from Laetoli show only partial evidence
    of this walking style, with a similar heel strike but
    a different pattern of propulsion. The earliest known
    evidence for fully modern human-like bipedal kinematics
    comes from the early Pleistocene Ileret tracks, which
    were presumably made by members of the genus Homo. This
    result signals important differences in the foot
    kinematics recorded at Laetoli and Ileret and underscores
    an emerging picture of locomotor diversity within the
    hominin clade.

    "The longitudinal arch is often cited as an important
    evolutionary innovation of the human foot that contributed
    to proficient bipedal walking and adept endurance running
    in our fossil relatives..."

    "Given the challenges of interpreting arches from fossil
    feet, the Laetoli and Ileret tracks are considered the
    least equivocal evidence for a deep history of
    longitudinally arched foot morphologies in hominin
    evolution."

    "While isolated analyses of skeletal fossils have
    generated conflicting interpretations about whether
    the A. afarensis foot functioned like that of a modern
    human, our analysis of the arched Laetoli footprints
    provides a unique kinematic synthesis. Brought into view
    through this new lens is a pattern of foot function and
    bipedal locomotion that was human-like in some ways
    yet still importantly different."

    "In contrast, 1.5 Ma tracks from Ileret, Kenya, preserve
    the earliest evidence for a fully human-like pattern of
    foot kinematics. Tracks from Ileret (total n = 4 from
    three trackways) have RAVs where we would expect similarly
    deep modern human tracks to fall (Fig. 4a). These data
    provide new evidence to support inferences of human-like
    foot kinematics in Homo erectus. We emphasize, however,
    that our track ontogeny results simultaneously invalidate
    direct association between arched footprint morphology and
    arched foot anatomy at Ileret11. In contrast with the
    Laetoli examples above, it appears that the Ileret tracks
    are fully consistent with not only a heel–sole–toe rollover
    pattern but also a pattern of forefoot propulsion closer to
    that observed in modern humans."

    "The results of our track analyses suggest that important
    changes to foot anatomy and function occurred at or before
    the emergence of the genus Homo, where a suite of postcranial
    changes could correspond to selective influences of locomotor
    behaviours such as long-distance walking or endurance running."

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 03:57:40 2023
    somebody:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023
    Abstract
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as
    a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running. ...

    I just sent this:


    Dear Dr Hatala,

    I just read your interesting article, beginning with
    "The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running."

    IOO, this is confusing cause & consequence:
    - runners (bipedal or quadrupedal) are unguli- or digitigrade (incl. e.g. kangaroos),
    - walkers (bipedal or quardupedal) are often plantigrade, e.g. humans, sealions...
    IOW, a more correct sentence had been:
    "The longitudinal arch of the human foot, used for bipedal walking and running today, is a consequence of our waterside past."
    Google e.g. "GondwanaTalks Verhaegen".

    Best --marc verhaegen

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 03:41:52 2023
    kudu runner:

    The REAL link and abstract, not what you made up. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.

    "viewed" by kudu runners... :-DDD
    Only *incredible* idiots believe that you can run faster with flat feet.
    Never heard of digitigrade carnivores & unguligrade herbivores??
    Plantigrady = slow.

    Stupid stupid stupid kudu runners!

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 04:31:20 2023
    I just sent this:

    Dear professors Hatala, Gatesy and Falkingham,

    I just read with interest your article https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    "Arched footprints preserve the motions of fossil hominin feet",
    beginning with
    "The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running."

    IOO, this is confusing cause and consequence:
    - runners (bipedal or quadrupedal) are unguli- or digitigrade, incl. e.g. kangaroos,
    - walkers (bipedal or quadrupedal) are often plantigrade, incl. e.g. humans, sealions.

    IOO, a more correct sentence had been:
    "The longitudinal arch of the human foot, used today for bipedal walking and running, is a consequence of our waterside past",
    google e.g. "GondwanaTalks Verhaegen English".

    With best wishes --marc verhaegen

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Fri Apr 7 21:41:28 2023
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    kudu runner:

    The REAL link and abstract, not what you made up.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.

    "viewed" by kudu runners... :-DDD

    Viewed by real science, not those who make things up.



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01929-2
    Published: 05 January 2023

    Abstract
    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as
    a pivotal adaptation for bipedal walking and running.
    Fossil footprints from Laetoli, Tanzania, and Ileret,
    Kenya, are believed to provide direct evidence of
    longitudinally arched feet in hominins from the
    Pliocene and Pleistocene, respectively. We studied
    the dynamics of track formation using biplanar X-ray,
    three-dimensional animation and discrete element
    particle simulation. Here, we demonstrate that
    longitudinally arched footprints are false indicators
    of foot anatomy; instead they are generated through a
    specific pattern of foot kinematics that is
    characteristic of human walking. Analyses of fossil
    hominin tracks from Laetoli show only partial evidence
    of this walking style, with a similar heel strike but
    a different pattern of propulsion. The earliest known
    evidence for fully modern human-like bipedal kinematics
    comes from the early Pleistocene Ileret tracks, which
    were presumably made by members of the genus Homo. This
    result signals important differences in the foot
    kinematics recorded at Laetoli and Ileret and underscores
    an emerging picture of locomotor diversity within the
    hominin clade.

    "The longitudinal arch is often cited as an important
    evolutionary innovation of the human foot that contributed
    to proficient bipedal walking and adept endurance running
    in our fossil relatives..."

    "Given the challenges of interpreting arches from fossil
    feet, the Laetoli and Ileret tracks are considered the
    least equivocal evidence for a deep history of
    longitudinally arched foot morphologies in hominin
    evolution."

    "While isolated analyses of skeletal fossils have
    generated conflicting interpretations about whether
    the A. afarensis foot functioned like that of a modern
    human, our analysis of the arched Laetoli footprints
    provides a unique kinematic synthesis. Brought into view
    through this new lens is a pattern of foot function and
    bipedal locomotion that was human-like in some ways
    yet still importantly different."

    "In contrast, 1.5 Ma tracks from Ileret, Kenya, preserve
    the earliest evidence for a fully human-like pattern of
    foot kinematics. Tracks from Ileret (total n = 4 from
    three trackways) have RAVs where we would expect similarly
    deep modern human tracks to fall (Fig. 4a). These data
    provide new evidence to support inferences of human-like
    foot kinematics in Homo erectus. We emphasize, however,
    that our track ontogeny results simultaneously invalidate
    direct association between arched footprint morphology and
    arched foot anatomy at Ileret11. In contrast with the
    Laetoli examples above, it appears that the Ileret tracks
    are fully consistent with not only a heel–sole–toe rollover
    pattern but also a pattern of forefoot propulsion closer to
    that observed in modern humans."

    "The results of our track analyses suggest that important
    changes to foot anatomy and function occurred at or before
    the emergence of the genus Homo, where a suite of postcranial
    changes could correspond to selective influences of locomotor
    behaviours such as long-distance walking or endurance running."





    Only *incredible* idiots believe that you can run faster with flat feet.

    We don't have flat feet. We have arches. Even you.

    Never heard of digitigrade carnivores & unguligrade herbivores??
    Plantigrady = slow.

    THose are not bipeds.

    Stupid stupid stupid kudu runners!


    Found those nostrils on the tip of your nose?

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 8 05:03:53 2023
    kudu runner with nostrils on the tip of his nose :-DDD:

    Found those nostrils on the tip of your nose?

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317336008_Not_Homo_but_Pan_or_Australopithecus_naledi

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sat Apr 8 19:40:58 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    The longitudinal arch of the human foot is viewed as

    ...magic?

    It *Magically* ended our dependence on DHA for our brains?

    It *Magically* removed the Chromosome 11 insert, the "Nuclear
    DNA iInsert" of Eurasian origins that is very much older than any
    Mitochondrial Eve?

    It *Magically* erased Coastal Dispersal?

    It *Magically* shot back into time and removed the Retro Virus
    outbreak which has left evidence in African apes but not Asian
    apes and humans?

    Oo! I am all A-Tingle to find out which of these this magic
    accomplishes... could it be all?

    You are certifiably insane, no doubt about it, and you earned all
    the negative attention you crave, just like mom used to give you!

    Congratulations.





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