• Re: Murky rivers vs crystalline streams

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 22 22:40:25 2021
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    Chimpanzees don't learn to swim on their own. Water is an effective barrier for gene flow between groups of chimps. A river can separate two groups for a million years.
    Bonobos are separated from common chimps (Pan troglodytes) by the Congo River.
    P.t.ellioti is separated from P.t.t. by the Sanaga River.
    P.t.t. is separated from P.t schweinfurthii by the Ubangi River.
    (See Sesink-Clee and attached map).


    What is the link for this?

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sat Oct 23 01:19:23 2021
    On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 12:40:22 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    Chimpanzees don't learn to swim on their own. Water is an effective barrier for gene flow between groups of chimps. A river can separate two groups for a million years.
    Bonobos are separated from common chimps (Pan troglodytes) by the Congo River.
    P.t.ellioti is separated from P.t.t. by the Sanaga River.
    P.t.t. is separated from P.t schweinfurthii by the Ubangi River.
    (See Sesink-Clee and attached map).

    What is the link for this?

    https://groups.io/g/AAT/message/68187?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2CBonobos+are+separated+from+common+chimps+%28Pan+troglodytes%29+by+the+Congo+River.+P.t.ellioti+is+separated+from+P.t.t.+by+the+Sanaga+River.+P.t.t.+is+separated+from+P.t+
    schweinfurthii+by+the+Ubangi+River.+%28See+Sesink-Clee%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C65009797

    Written by author of the Bioko Island hypothesis

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 23 21:51:03 2021
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 12:40:22 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    Chimpanzees don't learn to swim on their own. Water is an effective barrier for gene flow between groups of chimps. A river can separate two groups for a million years.
    Bonobos are separated from common chimps (Pan troglodytes) by the Congo River.
    P.t.ellioti is separated from P.t.t. by the Sanaga River.
    P.t.t. is separated from P.t schweinfurthii by the Ubangi River.
    (See Sesink-Clee and attached map).

    What is the link for this?

    https://groups.io/g/AAT/message/68187?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2CBonobos+are+separated+from+common+chimps+%28Pan+troglodytes%29+by+the+Congo+River.+P.t.ellioti+is+separated+from+P.t.t.+by+the+Sanaga+River.+P.t.t.+is+separated+from+P.t+
    schweinfurthii+by+the+Ubangi+River.+%28See+Sesink-Clee%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C65009797

    Written by author of the Bioko Island hypothesis

    Here we go:

    https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12862-014-0275-z Chimpanzee population structure in Cameroon and Nigeria is associated with habitat variation that may be lost under climate change

    Abstract
    Background
    The Nigeria-Cameroon chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes ellioti) is found in the
    Gulf of
    Guinea biodiversity hotspot located in western equatorial Africa. This subspecies is
    threatened by habitat fragmentation due to logging and agricultural development,
    hunting for the bushmeat trade, and possibly climate change. Although P.
    t. ellioti
    appears to be geographically separated from the neighboring central
    chimpanzee
    (P. t. troglodytes) by the Sanaga River, recent population genetics
    studies of
    chimpanzees from across this region suggest that additional factors may
    also be
    important in their separation. The main aims of this study were: 1) to
    model the
    distribution of suitable habitat for P. t. ellioti across Cameroon and
    Nigeria, and
    P. t. troglodytes in southern Cameroon, 2) to determine which
    environmental factors
    best predict their optimal habitats, and 3) to compare modeled niches and
    test for
    their levels of divergence from one another. A final aim of this study was
    to examine
    the ways that climate change might impact suitable chimpanzee habitat
    across the
    region under various scenarios.

    Conclusions
    These findings suggest that a positive relationship may exist between environmental
    variation and the partitioning of genetic variation found in chimpanzees
    across this
    region. ENMs for each population were also projected under three different climate
    change scenarios for years 2020, 2050, and 2080. Suitable habitat of P. t. ellioti in
    northwest Cameroon / eastern Nigeria is expected to remain largely unchanged through 2080 in all considered scenarios. In contrast, P. t. ellioti in
    central Cameroon,
    which represents half of the population of this subspecies, is expected to experience
    drastic reductions in its ecotone habitat over the coming century.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Tue Oct 26 11:24:19 2021
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Chimpanzee population structure in Cameroon and Nigeria is associated with habitat variation that may be lost under climate change

    So how has the EXTENSIVE "climate change" seen throughout the Quaternary
    Period -- roughly the last 2.6 million years or so -- altered the population structure of Cameroon & Nigerian Chimpanzees?

    Oh. I forgot; Gwobull Warbling is a religion. It's only in science where we can question the answers...



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