http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/vincent.balter/Articles/Balter(JHE)06.pdf
Diet and behavior of the Saint-Césaire Neanderthal inferred from biogeochemical data inversion
Bio-geo-chemistry is a powerful tool for dietary reconstruction,
we use mixing equations to quantify the contribution of multiple sources to an individual's diet.
Our goals:
1) generalize the inverse method to dietary mixtures;
2) reconstruct the diet of the St-Césaire Hn, using
-- Sr/Ca & Ba/Ca data of the mineral fraction of bone (hydroxyl-apatite),
-- with published δ13C & δ15N data of the associated organic fraction of bone (collagen).
A new method is proposed to calculate the maximum diagenetic contribution of the Sr/Ba ratio,
we assume: the soil soluble fraction is the diagenetic end-member,
for a given fraction of diagenesis, this allows the restoration of the original Sr/Ba ratio.
We consider the St-Césaire Châtelperronian mammalian assemblage as the meat source,(??? --mv)
on the basis of available Sr, Ba & Ca contents of plants, the results indicate:
the % of plants in the Hn diet must have been close to 0 for realistic Sr & Ba impoverishment between diet & hydroxyl-apatite.
Contrary to previous studies, it is shown:
fish could constitute 30 % of the St-Césaire Hn's diet,
but this mass balance solution is not supported by the zoo-archaeological data.(:-DDD --mv)
When the entire faunal assemblage is considered as the dietary source,(??? --mv) the calculation shows:
-- bovids (except reindeer) represent 58 % of consumed meat,
-- horse/rhino 22 %,
-- reindeer 13 %,
-- mammoth 7 %.
These respective %% are in close accordance with zoo-archaeological records,(:-DDD --mv)
this suggests: the faunal assemblage ass.x the St-Césaire Hn reliably reflects what he ate during the last few years of his life,
this supports: this Hn carried the foodstuffs back to the St-Césaire shelter before their consumption.
:-DDD
Excellent example of the stupidity of the kudu=bovid hunters!
They begin by assuming Hn ate meat, and then conclude Hn ate meat...
I don't say Hn's diet didn't include meat, but comparative anatomy is clear: - POS (pachy-osteo-sclerosis He>>Hn>>Hs) is only seen in shallow diving tetrapods,
- platycephaly: very low long flat skull,
- platymeria: dorso-ventrally flattened femora + very long femoral neck = lateral leg movements, not running!!
- platypelloidy = very broad pelvis = idem: lateral leg movements,
- very valgus knees = not often running,
- shorter tibias Hn<Hs,
- feet even flatter >Hs,
- big nose, surrounded by large paranasal air sinuses,
- extremely large brain (CC++) suggests incl. aq.foods: DHA etc.
Most likely, Hn had a very varied diet (CC++), not fully coastal (POS<<He), but still incl. frequent diving + back-floating, probably for consuming aq.plants & opening shellfish.
Hn is typically found at coasts or big rivers: I assume they seasonally followed the Meuse, Rhine etc. inland: salmon trek??
If they hunted at all - they were even slower than we are on land! - they used traps etc.?
I forgot Hn's ear-exostoses = cold water irrigation.
If it's pathology, as in modern humans, then it indicates they were
not adapted to such a lifestyle.
If it's an adaptation (e.g. against barotrauma) then all Hn's should
have it bilaterally.
Which one is it?
I forgot Hn's ear-exostoses = cold water irrigation:
I forgot Hn's ear-exostoses = cold water irrigation.
Kudu runner:
If it's pathology, as in modern humans, then it indicates they were
not adapted to such a lifestyle.
If it's an adaptation (e.g. against barotrauma) then all Hn's should
have it bilaterally.
Which one is it?
:-DDD A typical example of your infantile black-white thinking.
Auditory exostoses = cold water irrigation.
I forgot Hn's ear-exostoses = cold water irrigation.
Kudu runner:
If it's pathology, as in modern humans, then it indicates they were
not adapted to such a lifestyle.
If it's an adaptation (e.g. against barotrauma) then all Hn's should
have it bilaterally.
Which one is it?
:-DDD A typical example of your infantile black-white thinking.
Auditory exostoses = cold water irrigation.
Yes, more than 50% incidence in Neandertals, https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0220464
an indication they were not very well adapted to such a lifestyle, and
to little to be a species-level adaptation.
http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/vincent.balter/Articles/Balter(JHE)06.pdf
Diet and behavior of the Saint-Césaire Neanderthal inferred from biogeochemical data inversion
Bio-geo-chemistry is a powerful tool for dietary reconstruction,
we use mixing equations to quantify the contribution of multiple sources to an individual's diet.
Our goals:
1) generalize the inverse method to dietary mixtures;
2) reconstruct the diet of the St-Césaire Hn, using
-- Sr/Ca & Ba/Ca data of the mineral fraction of bone (hydroxyl-apatite),
-- with published δ13C & δ15N data of the associated organic fraction of bone (collagen).
A new method is proposed to calculate the maximum diagenetic contribution of the Sr/Ba ratio,
we assume: the soil soluble fraction is the diagenetic end-member,
for a given fraction of diagenesis, this allows the restoration of the original Sr/Ba ratio.
We consider the St-Césaire Châtelperronian mammalian assemblage as the meat source,(??? --mv)
on the basis of available Sr, Ba & Ca contents of plants, the results indicate:
the % of plants in the Hn diet must have been close to 0 for realistic Sr & Ba impoverishment between diet & hydroxyl-apatite.
Contrary to previous studies, it is shown:
fish could constitute 30 % of the St-Césaire Hn's diet,
but this mass balance solution is not supported by the zoo-archaeological data.(:-DDD --mv)
When the entire faunal assemblage is considered as the dietary source,(??? --mv) the calculation shows:
-- bovids (except reindeer) represent 58 % of consumed meat,
-- horse/rhino 22 %,
-- reindeer 13 %,
-- mammoth 7 %.
These respective %% are in close accordance with zoo-archaeological records,(:-DDD --mv)
this suggests: the faunal assemblage ass.x the St-Césaire Hn reliably reflects what he ate during the last few years of his life,
this supports: this Hn carried the foodstuffs back to the St-Césaire shelter before their consumption.
:-DDD
Excellent example of the stupidity of the kudu=bovid hunters!
They begin by assuming Hn ate meat, and then conclude Hn ate meat...
I don't say Hn's diet didn't include meat, but comparative anatomy is clear: - POS (pachy-osteo-sclerosis He>>Hn>>Hs) is only seen in shallow diving tetrapods,
- platycephaly: very low long flat skull,
- platymeria: dorso-ventrally flattened femora + very long femoral neck = lateral leg movements, not running!!
- platypelloidy = very broad pelvis = idem: lateral leg movements,
- very valgus knees = not often running,
- shorter tibias Hn<Hs,
- feet even flatter >Hs,
- big nose, surrounded by large paranasal air sinuses,
- extremely large brain (CC++) suggests incl. aq.foods: DHA etc.
Most likely, Hn had a very varied diet (CC++), not fully coastal (POS<<He), but still incl. frequent diving + back-floating, probably for consuming aq.plants & opening shellfish.
Hn is typically found at coasts or big rivers: I assume they seasonally followed the Meuse, Rhine etc. inland: salmon trek??
If they hunted at all - they were even slower than we are on land! - they used traps etc.?
I there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
But this is already too difficult for fanatic believers in Sta Savanna...
Why don't these idiots waste their own time??
I forgot Hn's ear-exostoses = cold water irrigation.
Kudu runner:
If it's pathology, as in modern humans, then it indicates they were
not adapted to such a lifestyle.
If it's an adaptation (e.g. against barotrauma) then all Hn's should
have it bilaterally.
Which one is it?
:-DDD A typical example of your infantile black-white thinking.
Auditory exostoses = cold water irrigation.
Yes, more than 50% incidence in Neandertals,
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0220464
an indication they were not very well adapted to such a lifestyle, and
to little to be a species-level adaptation.
If there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
And what if that Neandertal does not have any ear exostoses at all?
If there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
Kudu runner:
And what if that Neandertal does not have any ear exostoses at all?
:-DDD
Grow up.
If there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
And what if that Neandertal does not have any ear exostoses at all?
:-DDD Grow up.
I'm trying to help you here, to find evidence for seasonal migration
along rivers and salmon fishing at Saint-Cesaire, but with only 0.3%
fish remains (none from Salmonidae) at the Neandertal level at this
site there isn't much I can do I'm afraid.
If there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
Kudu runner:
And what if that Neandertal does not have any ear exostoses at all?
:-DDD Grow up.
I'm trying to help you here, to find evidence for seasonal migration
along rivers and salmon fishing at Saint-Cesaire, but with only 0.3%
Thanks, my boy, that's more than I expected.
fish remains (none from Salmonidae) at the Neandertal level at this
site there isn't much I can do I'm afraid.
If there's only 1 Neandertal with ear exostoses, this Neandertal frequently swam in colder water.
Kudu runner:
And what if that Neandertal does not have any ear exostoses at all?
:-DDD Grow up.
I'm trying to help you here, to find evidence for seasonal migration
along rivers and salmon fishing at Saint-Cesaire, but with only 0.3%
Thanks, my boy, that's more than I expected.
fish remains (none from Salmonidae) at the Neandertal level at this
site there isn't much I can do I'm afraid.
:-DDD
Excellent example of the stupidity of the kudu=bovid hunters!
They begin by assuming Hn ate meat, and then conclude Hn ate meat...
I don't say Hn's diet didn't include meat, but comparative anatomy is clear:
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